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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:28 pm
by Sigmund
you're asking me "why would fae slip"

obviously fae wouldn't slip on purpose.

this is a ridiculous question

the whole point of a slip is that its an ACCIDENT

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:29 pm
by Something_Smart
It's an accident, but it's not like it was a typo... there must have still been some thought process involved.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:29 pm
by morph the cat
In post 2641, Bell wrote:Opps, that could be misconstrued. I mean that you rolled scum and you're avoiding the game some through that kind of tracking.

Not IRL stuff.

@Sigmund, I dunno how many of those posts are from Cabd and how many are from FF because they intentionally hide it.
While I was going through isos for the spreadsheet, I also posted a flurry of questions that occurred to me while I was doing all that rereading.

What do you mean by "intentionally hiding who's posting"? We don't sign, generally, but I think it's usually pretty obvious who posted which posts.

You say you're townreading us but dayum that's whole lot of shade the last page or so, Bell.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:29 pm
by Chara
if Flea flips scum i'm still going to argue that wasn't a slip. it's not about being careful or not being careful, it's about how language works.

also, this sort of thing seems in character for SS to spend time on and care about. or i'm just thinking that because i also care immensely even though it functionally doesn't matter because i do think Flea is scummy, just not for
this
thing, and it bothers me that Sigmund is
disagreeing
with me on the
internet.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:30 pm
by Bell
In post 2645, morph the cat wrote:
In post 2636, Bell wrote:
In post 2628, morph the cat wrote:
In post 2619, Bell wrote:I'm Aware, I'm using context to respond to why it bothered *me* when I thought Cabd did it because that's what guilotina asked.
He didn't ask why it bothered me that FF did it.
Then I will!

Why does my keeping a spreadsheet bother you?
Because I'm worried you're doing it to keep yourself busy because it hurts to be here.
I stayed up to 2 am instead of sleeping a couple nights ago putting it together and poring through isos to find stated and implicit reads.

It's kind of the opposite of doing something besides be in the game thread.
Sure. You can push against every grain of doubt in me. But 2 more will take their place!

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:30 pm
by Sigmund
In post 2649, Something_Smart wrote:I'm not pushing you. (Or at least, I didn't intend to give off that impression.)

I'm arguing against townreads on you, but that's not the same thing. I don't think you deserve to be townread for your playstyle because I feel like it's an alt persona and not selected specifically for this game. How accurate would you say that is?
Oh yes

You are not pushing me

You are just doing things that if successful would result in me dying.

That's completely not the same thing

:facepalm:

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:30 pm
by Thestatusquo
I'd almost go so far as to say that tmi basically isn't real.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:31 pm
by Sigmund
In post 2651, Something_Smart wrote:It's an accident, but it's not like it was a typo... there must have still been some thought process involved.
You're asking for "why would a scumbag slip"

SCUM DO NOT SLIP ON PURPOSE YOUR VERY QUESTION IS JUST RIDICULOUSLY BAD FAITH

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:32 pm
by Something_Smart
Even things that don't happen on purpose still happen for a reason.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:32 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
Can I read this flea slip

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:33 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
like can someone quote it for me

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:33 pm
by Sigmund
Yea Flea thought my nonsense about being the towniest townie was downright ridiculous

So Flea responded emotionally and slipped that I actually am town

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:33 pm
by Sigmund
In post 2206, Flea The Magician wrote:Sigmund you are FAR from the towniest town in this game. we have many holding that title above you.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:33 pm
by Bell
In post 2652, morph the cat wrote:
In post 2641, Bell wrote:Opps, that could be misconstrued. I mean that you rolled scum and you're avoiding the game some through that kind of tracking.

Not IRL stuff.

@Sigmund, I dunno how many of those posts are from Cabd and how many are from FF because they intentionally hide it.
While I was going through isos for the spreadsheet, I also posted a flurry of questions that occurred to me while I was doing all that rereading.

What do you mean by "intentionally hiding who's posting"? We don't sign, generally, but I think it's usually pretty obvious who posted which posts.

You say you're townreading us but dayum that's whole lot of shade the last page or so, Bell.
No, it really isn't.

I throw shade everywhere because I'm one of them types that throws shade everywhere. You should be able to relate from our recent newbie game in which you explicitly suspected and questioned everyone, perhaps to your own detriment when Lukewarm voted you in part because he felt you might vote him first.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:34 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 2662, Sigmund wrote:
In post 2206, Flea The Magician wrote:Sigmund you are FAR from the towniest town in this game. we have many holding that title above you.
...

what

this... this is it?

doesn't this just say "you're not the towniest person in the game, we have other people we have stronger townreads on"?

or am I missing something here, like

where's the slip

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:35 pm
by Sigmund
it puts me on a townie chart and says I'm not near the top.

the TMI is that I'm on the townie chart.

a non-tmi response would be to call me a scumbag

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:35 pm
by Thestatusquo
The argument is that flea called him town therefore knows he's town. Which literally i have seen townies do 1000000 times

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:36 pm
by Chara
In post 2204, Sigmund wrote:
In post 2201, Guillotina wrote:1) Look into my ISO, ive been very vocal about it, you cant miss it. Im gonna force you to read instead of making me waste time repeating myself.
2) If you havent resd half of this game how did you come to the conclusion that it is gibberish? Also, what posts are not gibberish? Point them out to me.
3) What are you saying here, that my scumread on you is a wild guess or that your scumread on me is?
4) im great at this game, you and your pack wished i was not.
1. I'm not reading your entire fucking iso to figure out what your point is

if its important to you and you believe in it you should be able to write it in 1 sentence.

the fact you don't means you're just full of shit here.

2. It's called skimming, if it sounds like bullshit gibberish I just glance over it and don't read it.

3. I'm not a psychic so it out.

4. nah cuz you're literally scumreading the
towniest townie
in this game.
In post 2206, Flea The Magician wrote:Sigmund you are FAR from
the towniest town
in this game. we have many holding that title above you.
Flea was replying directly to Sigmund. Flea repeated his wording. this is a very normal thing to do in a conversation. it requires less conscious effort than changing the phrase to "towniest player" would take.

no this doesn't matter i don't know why i keep arguing it!! but still.

so as i was writing this post i started thinking about why Flea would even want to make this post, 2206 is kind of a weird post, maybe fae really did make it because fae knows he's town and wanted to throw a jab about how he isn't that towny. i mean i still don't think it's a slip but arguing that really doesn't matter.

okay, night all, it's time.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:36 pm
by morph the cat
In post 2620, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2611, morph the cat wrote:His play is suicidal if scum, and I like some of the stances that have wafted through the overpowering cloud of Axe, which has been happening more regularly over the last 48 hours or so.
What about the Flea stance though? Like, maybe there's more to that read than a bullshit TMI accusation, but he's really not helping make that clear.
Some players subscribe to TMI tells.

I don't...generally. Though I have (rarely) seen scum slip in that particular way. about as often as scum accidentally post something in the game thread thinking they were in a PT.

Anyway, I don't think the TMI argument is disingenuous, regardless of if it's right or wrong.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:37 pm
by Sigmund
In post 2666, Thestatusquo wrote:The argument is that flea called him town therefore knows he's town. Which literally i have seen townies do 1000000 times


WHILE FLEA IS VOTING FOR ME TO DIE?

HELLLOOOOOO

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:37 pm
by Bell
Good night Chara.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:37 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
In post 2665, Sigmund wrote:it puts me on a townie chart and says I'm not near the top.

the TMI is that I'm on the townie chart.

a non-tmi response would be to call me a scumbag
...?

Are you saying it's impossible for a player to townread someone, but not as strongly as other players?

That's not a perspective slip, that's called having read confidence.

Like I have people I am much more confident are town than others who I also think are town.

Like I have STD and Firebringer both as town rn, but I can tell you which one I'm re-evaluating on performance tomorrow and which one is a locked townie for me.

I don't get how that's a perspective slip still...

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:38 pm
by Sigmund
flea wasn't even townreading me at the time

flea was VOTING FOR ME

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:39 pm
by Chara
wait also yeah, morph it is super hard to tell who is posting, i have no idea who either of you are but reading hydras requires a certain amount of knowing who is posting.

pedit: also yeah no it's not a slip i'm sticking to that and the copying wording thing because that's more legitimate, i only wavered because i scumread Flea now, ignore the rest of it.

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:39 pm
by Thestatusquo
In post 2669, Sigmund wrote:
In post 2666, Thestatusquo wrote:The argument is that flea called him town therefore knows he's town. Which literally i have seen townies do 1000000 times


WHILE FLEA IS VOTING FOR ME TO DIE?

HELLLOOOOOO
Again, this is just how words happen. I have seen the exact same thing from town a million times HELLOOOOOOOOOOO

being loud doesn't make you right. 99 times out of 100 when someone is rung up for tmi or a slip it's a townie who just misspoke. That happens at such a way higher frequency.


HELLOOOOOOOOO