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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:57 am
by Dwlee99
In a 9 - 4 setup, town need to eliminate 4 scum before eliminating three townies. A one for one trade is 100% worth it to scum in this setup.

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:35 am
by Datisi
In post 2622, Salsabil Faria wrote:
In post 2621, Datisi wrote:
In post 2606, Salsabil Faria wrote:VOTE: Datisi
you too

wiki has spent the whole first day screaming how he's a strong power role and how we cannot vote him out, but now he's self voting? okay

also big fucking lol @ claiming he's town for shitspamming all over the game
I know what he did, but still not sure if his scum partners let him play like this. Yeah, one thing can happen, he is a traitor and his playstyle was signaling the scums and that's why he is still alive ever after claiming
important
TPR in D1. I'm considering this scenario, but not interested in closing the D2 early.

Andres
nk indicates towards scum!
T3
but scum can use this for another miselimination tactic. Need to read
Andres
's ISO...
bold of you to assume someone like wiki would ever listen to what his scumpartners are telling him, but also why wouldn't they let him act like this? it was getting him consistently townread on day 1.

can you now answer the actual question i asked you, which is explain your vote?
In post 2641, Enchant wrote:Wiki claimed "Townie" already and admitted lying.
where? he's claimed to be an ~important power role~ multiple times in day one, and it's apparently not a jailkeeper.

also, do you have thoughts on wiki's yeet? his alignment? anyone else in the game?

i lowkey want to just quote every post that dwlee's posted today about wiki and gera, because my god i don't feel like properly reading those gera posts
In post 2649, geraintm wrote:the logic of scum faking a counterclaim against a PR, just in an attempt to push it through, knowing they are going to get heat for it the next day
the logic of scum faking a counterclaim against a pr, knowing they are gonna get heat for it the next day is that the scum in question won't die right there, instead they'll survive for an extra day, *and* they'll vote out a power role instead of them

and then going "nvm i'm not actually jk" gives them nonzero chance of surviving further because there's always some people that go "idk guys why would scum do that? ):" and like, counterclaiming pr for a 1for1 trade is the most basic scum move when going down early

yeah you know what i don't feel like reading those posts rn

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:57 am
by Iconeum
In post 2649, geraintm wrote:the logic of scum faking a counterclaim against a PR, just in an attempt to push it through, knowing they are going to get heat for it the next day - i just don't buy.
you see his play as strongly scummy.
i see it the opposite.
we are allowed to differ on this.
there's 4 scum confirmed - trading 1 scum for a confirmed town power role is an excellent trade

and there's the chance that he just like ... gets away with it

what is the town motivation exactly for what wiki did?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:57 am
by Iconeum
In post 2650, Dwlee99 wrote:In a 9 - 4 setup, town need to eliminate 4 scum before eliminating three townies. A one for one trade is 100% worth it to scum in this setup.
well yeah, this

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:19 am
by Enchant
I don't want to be accused of being "Dumbtelling" but where the hell 4 mafia intel comed from?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:53 am
by Almost50
Hust a random guess I suppose! :facepalm:
In post 1, ChaosOmega wrote:
Setup Information:


All players with access to a PT may talk in the PT at any time.
There are confirmed to be four players aligned with the mafia.
[/b]

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:07 am
by Datisi
not to dumbtell or anything, but what is a mafia

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:14 am
by Enchant
I didn't read that. Well.

Then it's certanly possible Wiki is scum trying to trade his life for Jailkeeper (and it went perfectly gonna admit), but i am still not comfortable with voting, duh.

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:17 am
by Datisi
In post 2651, Datisi wrote:
In post 2641, Enchant wrote:Wiki claimed "Townie" already and admitted lying.
where? he's claimed to be an ~important power role~ multiple times in day one, and it's apparently not a jailkeeper.

also, do you have thoughts on wiki's yeet? his alignment? anyone else in the game?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:20 am
by Enchant
In post 2562, Enchant wrote:Wait did Wiki claim Jailkeeped killed original and then reclaimed townie?
In post 2566, Wiki wrote:
In post 2562, Enchant wrote:Wait did Wiki claim Jailkeeped killed original and then reclaimed townie?
yeah that was bad
but he put us in situation where i should be elimed instead of him, i was thinking he is fakeclaiming.
he claimed vt before that, he wasn't careful for pr, he tried to elim me (his town lean) instead of himself on e-2, than he claimed on e-1

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:21 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2654, Enchant wrote:I don't want to be accused of being "Dumbtelling" but where the hell 4 mafia intel comed from?
Lol

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:24 am
by Datisi
still don't think that's him actually claiming townie, of course he can get in here and actually claim his role

now you can answer the second part of that question

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:30 am
by Salsabil Faria
Ok fineeeeeee


UNVOTE: Datisi

VOTE: Wiki

No iso-diving happened...

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:33 am
by Almost50
In post 2656, Datisi wrote:not to dumbtell or anything, but what is a mafia
Image

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:35 am
by Datisi
In post 2662, Salsabil Faria wrote:
Ok fineeeeeee


UNVOTE: Datisi

VOTE: Wiki

No iso-diving happened...
?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:40 am
by Salsabil Faria
Yeah, E-1 ig...

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:48 am
by Datisi
okay, take 2:

what made you change your mind and unvote me (who you were townreading the day before, but then voted at the start of day for still unexplained reasons) and vote wiki (who i've been pushing since i've opened my eyes on day 2)?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:57 am
by Salsabil Faria
The mind wanted to do it. Not interested in taking any takes, good night :yawn:

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:38 am
by Enchant
VOTE: Wiki

I believe i will pay for this, one way or another.

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:43 am
by Wiki
We will lose, dont suffer, play it fast. Nobody listens to anybody

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:43 am
by Enchant
In post 2669, Wiki wrote:We will lose, dont suffer, play it fast. Nobody listens to anybody
Was you town?

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:43 am
by Wiki
Yeah

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:50 am
by Dwlee99
why the fuck are you quickhammering

I DONT EVEN MAKE LONG POSTS

READ THEM

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:53 am
by Enchant
In post 2672, Dwlee99 wrote:why the fuck are you quickhammering

I DONT EVEN MAKE LONG POSTS

READ THEM
To not let you do that, bruh.

I decided it's worth a shot. But yeah, we are now in shit, etc, i probably will be next elim, whatever.

Game fucked and nothing can be done with that.

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:57 am
by Dwlee99
To not let me do what? Try to solve the game?