Geezer Mafia - DAY SIX, 3 players left / GAME OVER


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Post Post #2675 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:02 pm

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Isn't it interesting that Katy didn't see any connection with me being policewoman (and thus perhaps being a possible cop) when she herself is a nurse and has some kind of protective abilities. If I were Katy I would've guessed that the Policewoman also had a somewhat functional power role.

Remember that I kind of got off Katy's back after she had claimed nurse, since I at that time, thought her being a back up, just like myself.
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Post Post #2676 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:09 pm

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Meh I can see the elvis protection. It made sense on paper at the time.

Johoohno was in little danger of being NKd given that he has been lynch bait much of the game, and there are two killing factions.

HH point about the protective role being the first target for scum NK is good. Demonstrates either scum isn't paying attention or is Katy. But we have two killing factions. Figure one of them would have picked up on it, especially once the kills started missing.
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Post Post #2677 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:27 pm

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shaft.ed wrote:HH point about the protective role being the first target for scum NK is good. Demonstrates either scum isn't paying attention or is Katy. But we have two killing factions. Figure one of them would have picked up on it, especially once the kills started missing.
Except that the 'death' role (SK) has yet to miss. A night-kill immune scum could be the answer. I could see mafia targeting me on night two, but not night three once she actually claimed her ability. I also don't see them trying for her again after failing the night before.

:? I don't like how Shaft.ed isn't thinking about nightkill immunity. It's like he's trying to lead us to that conclusion without actually saying it.
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Post Post #2678 (ISO) » Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:33 pm

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I've already talked about NK immunity previously. That was my whole point behind Johoohno is mafia and Katy is SK.
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Post Post #2679 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:54 am

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Anon says that shafted is NK-immune...
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Post Post #2680 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:42 am

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shaft.ed wrote:I've already talked about NK immunity previously. That was my whole point behind Johoohno is mafia and Katy is SK.
I know you're aware of it, yet you didn't seem to consider it with your musings about Katy. It just seems a bit like a setup.

DGB - maybe you should join me on the Shaft.ed wagon.
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Post Post #2681 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:53 pm

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Johoohno wrote:Isn't it interesting that Katy didn't see any connection with me being policewoman (and thus perhaps being a possible cop) when she herself is a nurse and has some kind of protective abilities. If I were Katy I would've guessed that the Policewoman also had a somewhat functional power role.

Remember that I kind of got off Katy's back after she had claimed nurse, since I at that time, thought her being a back up, just like myself.
It's NOT that I didn't see it, it's that in my consideration of who were the most prominent night kill targets, I didn't come up with you. There were all kinds of reasons not to protect you. First because, like I said, I didn't see you as a big scum target if you were town, but also because I didn't (and still don't) necessarily believe your claim. After all, what better way to try and draw doc protection if it's out there?

My role is not a one-to-one match with my flavor - a nurse is usually a back-up doc and I am not. Given what I knew of my role, and DGB's and later Huck's, I wasn't certain at all that policewoman would directly match to cop and I was extremely suspicious that you may be lying about your profession to cover for a more sinister flavor profession.
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Post Post #2682 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:10 pm

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Dragon Phoenix wrote:
Vote count, 4 to lynch:


Johoohno 2 (Anon, Katy)
Katy 1 (Johoohno)

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Post Post #2683 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:22 pm

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Dragon Phoenix wrote:
Dragon Phoenix wrote:
Vote count, 4 to lynch:


Johoohno 2 (Anon, Katy)
Katy 1 (Johoohno)

Not voting (DrippingGoofball, shaft.ed, HackerHuck)
I voted Shaft.ed back in post 2612.
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Post Post #2684 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:48 pm

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HackerHuck wrote:
shaft.ed wrote:I've already talked about NK immunity previously. That was my whole point behind Johoohno is mafia and Katy is SK.
I know you're aware of it, yet you didn't seem to consider it with your musings about Katy. It just seems a bit like a setup.
How is it a setup to imply (actually it was just shorthand) sometehing I have stated several times in the thread. If Katy is scum, I think she is NK immune. I have made that comment a number of times already. So since this time I only said "katy is scum" instead of "katy is NK immune scum" that is somehow a tell? I'm not following here.
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Post Post #2685 (ISO) » Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:31 pm

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Anon why so quiet?
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Post Post #2686 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:29 am

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I think Katy is town.

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Post Post #2687 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:31 am

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Since a few people I am assuming are townies are building a case on me could you please provide your reasons for wanting me lynched. All I've seen is outguessing mod flavor as a reason that I'm scum.
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Post Post #2688 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:16 am

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PoE. Plus, the nightkills have your fingerprints.
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Post Post #2689 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:03 am

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Care to elaborate. I don't see how the nightkills have anything to do with me. Or are you talking about the lack of nightkills? Cause I am pretty bad at this game, I could understand that one.
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Post Post #2690 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:06 am

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Thanks for the correction, missed that last time.

Vote count, 4 to lynch:


Johoohno 2 (Anon, Katy)
shaft.ed 2 (HackerHuck, DrippingGoofball)
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Post Post #2691 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:16 am

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shaft.ed wrote:Care to elaborate. I don't see how the nightkills have anything to do with me. Or are you talking about the lack of nightkills? Cause I am pretty bad at this game, I could understand that one.
I looked at the players that died, and I'm thinking, that's exactly who shafted would kill, and in that order, too.
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Post Post #2692 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:20 am

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thats some strong stuff right there, which players did I kill again?
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Post Post #2693 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:39 am

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I consider you responsible for the no flavour deaths. My reasoning is similar to DGB. It's a combination of PoE and role flavour. Except for our mafia, we've all had roles that fit our former professions. I could see either a nurse or a chemist being able to kill someone without apparent causes. I'm certain that our unknown causes killer is still alive and I'm not as certain that there's still a Camoresi alive. That's why I'm focusing on the SK today.
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Post Post #2694 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:45 am

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shaft.ed wrote:thats some strong stuff right there, which players did I kill again?
Since you're too lazy to check your SENT box:

Trojan Horse (Ms. Isabella Verditi, cook, Bologna, Godmother of the Camoresi Mafia, died night 1)
Papa Zito (Mr. Severo Camoresi, Camoresi Mafia goon, Naples, died night 2)
Yosarian2 (Ms. Angelina Panicucci, teacher, Verona, townie, died night 3)
Mr. Flay (Ms. Cristiana Trevisani, civil servant, Bellano, townie, died night 4)
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Post Post #2695 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:56 am

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@ DGB: Why would shaft.ed kill those people in that order?

As said before, I can vote shaft.ed too, perhaps it is even better since there is a slim possibility that Katy is town and that there is a camoresi left in game, though I can't see who that would be then. As said before, I think there are two anti town roles left, and I see Katy and shaft.ed as the most likely combination.

I went back and checked my notes and I found very little interactions between Katy and shaft.ed. Do they even vote one another ever?
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Post Post #2696 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:57 am

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EBWOP: slim possibility Katy being town, and therefore partial doc.
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Post Post #2697 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 11:59 am

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Johoohno wrote:@ DGB: Why would shaft.ed kill those people in that order?
People he can't read or manipulate, people he thinks are scum.
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Post Post #2698 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:08 pm

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We are not lynching shafted. Period.

Joho is definitely a better lynch, even if shafted is SK. I would even put Katy in the same bag but I dont want to extend the options.

HH: 3 mafia in a 20 game is imbalanced as hell even with a SK. Id expect minimum 4, with 5 as normal, taking into account the multiple kills.

Joho is very likely to flip scum just based on overall scumminess. The fakeclaim, the inconsistency on your results is just another reason that should have made us lynch him with no further input.

Guys, this is very simple. We have 3 CLAIMED POWER ROLES ALIVE with 6 people in the game and NOT dying in two consecutive nights. Someone in this group HAS to be lying. Now, the backup claim DOESNT make sense in a context of two investigative roles : a detective and a thief. And its even worse because IT DOESNT WORK.

Can we please lynch Joho now?
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Post Post #2699 (ISO) » Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:11 pm

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Oh, alright.

unvote, vote: Joohooonnooo
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