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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:58 am
by mhsmith0
Okay Thor let's think of common things scum do to manipulate.

"hey you should vote this guy" is a very common one.

Tenshii DID NOT EVER tell anyone to vote his way. Tenshii did Tenshii's thing which included lots of vanity wagons that got little to no momentum.
The theiry implication here is clear.

anyway got to run be back later.

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:54 am
by Tenshii
Screw the "your iso/slot is empty" argument bullshit. In the game I was in, I was told the same thing and I still flipped town. And I still don't fucking understand how I'm/was being empty. In this game and in that game. Can you even elaborate on how my ISO is "empty?" Empty is the biggest fucking buzzword ever. Fuck. Your shitty empty argument is empty in and of itself.

FOR THE LOVE OF FUCKING GOD GIGA, reread Wingback's, iron's, and Luna's case on me. If for whatever reason you're scared of me voting Thor in 3 way then I'll vote the other instead. I would highly despise it but at this point I've come to terms with being trash.

Is there a world where I NK iron yesternight as scum? Is there a world where I hard defend Karnos as scum? Is there a world where I shitpost/salt vote as LAST scum?
In post 2655, mhsmith0 wrote:So all the stuff about tenshii being self focused and not doing much in the way of scum-hunting, as well as the plausibly strategic vote hopping, didn't register at all with you?
Self focused my ass. And I totes wasn't scumhunting, you're right. And my vote hopping was amazing ikr. You guys were sooooooo slow to see it. I can't believe you guys didn't catch me earlier. <_<

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:57 am
by Tenshii
If "meta" states that I have a tendency to be livid when I'm about to hammered as town, then "meta" can go screw itself.

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:13 am
by mhsmith0
Tenshii, if you don't want to have your ISO called empty, put down actual thoughts on who is the last goon and who isn't. You're voting me; how sure are you it's me and why? You've stated suspicion of trans and Thor; why are the town arguments on them wrong? By implication you have giga as strongest town; what convinced you? "Other people read me as town" is crap; pull up the points they made that you think are strongest, and talk about why they are more relevant than the points against you, or why you think they disprove the case against you. The truth is you HAVENT been scum-hunting, and I don't see anything particularly genuine in your ISO, and the fact that it takes you getting wagoned to really get into things is at best null (and is frankly at least weakly wolf indicative).

Thor has shown investment in solving the game. Ditto trans (though it's been crappy). Ditto giga. You have shown less. If you want to not get lynched, make a stronger case for why it's someone else, which frankly is a helpful exercise as either alignment.

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:14 am
by mhsmith0
In post 2676, Tenshii wrote:Screw the "your iso/slot is empty" argument bullshit. In the game I was in, I was told the same thing and I still flipped town. And I still don't fucking understand how I'm/was being empty. In this game and in that game. Can you even elaborate on how my ISO is "empty?" Empty is the biggest fucking buzzword ever. Fuck. Your shitty empty argument is empty in and of itself.

FOR THE LOVE OF FUCKING GOD GIGA, reread Wingback's, iron's, and Luna's case on me. If for whatever reason you're scared of me voting Thor in 3 way then I'll vote the other instead. I would highly despise it but at this point I've come to terms with being trash.

Is there a world where I NK iron yesternight as scum? Is there a world where I hard defend Karnos as scum? Is there a world where I shitpost/salt vote as LAST scum?
In post 2655, mhsmith0 wrote:So all the stuff about tenshii being self focused and not doing much in the way of scum-hunting, as well as the plausibly strategic vote hopping, didn't register at all with you?
Self focused my ass. And I totes wasn't scumhunting, you're right. And my vote hopping was amazing ikr. You guys were sooooooo slow to see it. I can't believe you guys didn't catch me earlier. <_<
Ps
Is there a world where I NK iron yesternight as scum? Is there a world where I hard defend Karnos as scum? Is there a world where I shitpost/salt vote as LAST scum?

Ok why do you think those things are hard disqualifying? Because those all seem plausible to me.

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:42 am
by mhsmith0
Actually, talk about the Ira nk a bit more. If you are the last goon, who do you kill and why? I feel like giga and Ira are your two options last night, and I don't see why you'd strongly prefer one over the other, especially in the context of your previously stated preference of killing randomly or letting your partner decide. Why is the Ira kill disqualifying for you?

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:00 am
by Thor665
@Tenshi - a good example of your empty ISO and why people call it empty is best summed up in that kerfluffle a few days ago when you claimed you had suspicions on Giga and mhsmith and my reactions to that were 'you did what in the where now?'

You had zero ability to quote any evidence supporting that belief.
In trying to describe the belief you were left going 't'was the feels!'

If you are town, you should communicate your thoughts, and also try to do so in some manner that showcases why you have the thoughts.
That it came as an utter surprise to people that you suspected Giga shows that either you were making up that read when it was needed, and you're scum- or you're town who decided not to communicate an apparently major line of thought for no reason whatsoever.

Which is why your ISO is empty.
If you think that's a buzzword - I'll change my issue to you to; your iso fails to contain any real evidence of forming coherent scumreads, and also in pressing in a manner consistent with those reads, and instead shows a desire to either defend flipped scum, or to want to lynch people off cases not connected to alignment tells.

I also call that 'empty'.

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:11 pm
by Transcend
In post 2677, Tenshii wrote:If "meta" states that I have a tendency to be livid when I'm about to hammered as town, then "meta" can go screw itself.
My hero <3

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:25 am
by tojam2
Tenshii, calm down (see rule x (can't remember which one) about swearing).

Thanks for providing me with a new signature though.

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:13 pm
by Transcend
It's decision time miss troubadour. Gun to head I'd still lynch smith.

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:45 pm
by gigabyteTroubadour
i still have a day
is it worth it?

also miss is good but mx. (pronounced "mix") is the gender neutral honorific. facts! :up: (although i believe it's only recognized in british english)

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:54 pm
by mhsmith0
Presuming you're town (which I still feel pretty comfortable with), more time is worth it if you think you can spend it productively, not worth it if you think you can't. If you're undecided ask questions and refine your read. I don't know I have anything particularly useful to say other than that.

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:57 pm
by gigabyteTroubadour
Then we're good to go. I still think this makes the most sense.

VOTE: Tenshii

Sorry Transcend, and sorry town!Tenshii. I can't see us losing this either way.

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:00 pm
by mhsmith0
Crossing fingers. Though it may take a day or two for us to actually find out...

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:08 pm
by Transcend
Welp. Here's hoping both my top town reads were scum. I doubt it tho.

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:12 pm
by mhsmith0
It would be pretty funny if that was the outcome though.

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:47 pm
by mhsmith0
Bored... Really wanna see red flip so my win streak goes up to THREE :D
(Yes, I know, not super hi expectations, but then again my record losing streak is fucking SIX so every little bit helps)

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:47 am
by Transcend
T, gonna participate in twilight?

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:43 am
by Thor665
Wasn't planning to - nothing interesting is happening.

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:44 am
by Transcend
Oh I meant Tenshii when I said T lmfao.

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:04 am
by Thor665
Tenshii is either aggrieved town, or busted scum - either way seems unlikely to post much.

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:31 am
by Transcend
I get that -- I'm just a very impatient person and our mod takes forever to update the thread so I wanna hear what Tenshii says he is post hammer.

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:33 am
by Thor665
Tenshii hasn't even been on site since the hammer.

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:36 am
by mhsmith0
I'd like to think we will find out some time today. Who knows if that's correct though.

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:37 am
by Transcend
Hmm...

PEDIT: I'm sleeping soon then going to work so I was sorta banking on knowing relatively soon than having to wait til I get home to figure it out =p