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Yeah, no lynching today is dumb. We're on odd numbers and our vig is dead.

And it seems like it's out there at this point, so yes, I'm an odd-night cop.

Arc, do not jail me tonight. You'll be the NK tonight, I'll be the NK N4, and they'll be no other confirmed townies. You verify someone as town even if you die tonight as long as you declare your target beforehand. If scum want to kill me to prevent my investigation, you can check two people before you die. If they kill you, I get to clear someone/find the last scum.

In post 2672, MortFeld wrote:This would all be solved if we jailed RK instead of rb.

How? Explain please.

In post 2676, ChaosOmega wrote:Yeah, no lynching today is dumb. We're on odd numbers and our vig is dead.

And it seems like it's out there at this point, so yes, I'm an odd-night cop.

Arc, do not jail me tonight. You'll be the NK tonight, I'll be the NK N4, and they'll be no other confirmed townies. You verify someone as town even if you die tonight as long as you declare your target beforehand. If scum want to kill me to prevent my investigation, you can check two people before you die. If they kill you, I get to clear someone/find the last scum.

Who did you target last night Chaos? Please answer this.

I'M AN ODD NIGHT COP, 2 ISN'T ODD, PLEASE READ

Arc will you jail according to town consensus?

Jail Naomi or RK please. And state which one.

In post 2677, ArcAngel9 wrote:

In post 2672, MortFeld wrote:This would all be solved if we jailed RK instead of rb.

How? Explain please.

We all considered rb town before last night. RK was a variable then and is still a variable. Jail targets tonight are between RK and Naomi, just like they should have been last night. You confirmed a townie we all already thought was town.

In post 2676, ChaosOmega wrote: Arc, do not jail me tonight. You'll be the NK tonight, I'll be the NK N4, and they'll be no other confirmed townies. You verify someone as town even if you die tonight as long as you declare your target beforehand. If scum want to kill me to prevent my investigation, you can check two people before you die. If they kill you, I get to clear someone/find the last scum.

Accurate analysis to me. Jailing Chaos throws the game.

Road Kamelot rep. MisaTange

This is important to note as im gonna draw quotes on Misa over Road as Misa was p

In post 543, Toto wrote:I've been trying to get an answer of him for a while now. The read/vote progression is quite weird. I find it odd he came back to 'respond to questions' but somehow missed this.

See 328 and my prompt in 406

This makes me more suspicious of Misa+TB

ushed harder by reds.

In post 245, Toto wrote:I don't like Misa the most so far.

In post 246, Toto wrote:VOTE: Misa

In post 249, Toto wrote:Wait, what happened to Misa? you were voting him befoe.

In post 330, Drone wrote:Misa and Mort both feel scum to me, the worst part is that they are on the same level.

In post 547, Drone wrote:About mine: me not voting Misa is a direct outcome of the inactivity I spoke of, where I meant the replacements and lots of others being inactive (you, TB and Creeps) when I said I can't work with the inactivity.
Not to mention Misa is replacing out, sometimes it's not the slot, but the players that make the difference.
I just can't focus right now with the recent events. Need things to get back to order.

In post 1014, Toto wrote:

In post 993, MortFeld wrote:To expand on the fair vote comment - I agree that scum might play the way I am playing, inadvertently. Perhaps my reads list would help you believe I do have an idea of how the game is progressing?

I'm working with:

{

Creeps, Toto, Drone, LUV, TF

}
{Chaos, Naomi, Nero}
{

Road, TB

}
{

Wobbu, HS

}


Pedit: Yes... Road asking for a tl;dr was the reason I posted the reads list. You said that the Misa slot was AFK at the time I posted that, which is not true. I didn't say that asking for the list was my reason for SRing the Misa slot - those reasons were explained in the post.

Wobbu is town.

(Didn't disagree with road red)

In post 1243, Drone wrote:@Mort
I didn't reread closely enough, all I have to say.

VOTE: Kamelot

In post 1254, Toto wrote:I left you guys alone for two days and you let HS dodge the rope...

Misalot does look still look bad though so I'm ok with a lynch there. I'd still prefer a HS lynch. In the worst case they are VT. All these wagons are not going to help town. I don't like the massclaim idea either.

I'll catch up in more detail later today.

Fair enough

Go with RK lynch today. Nero is town. If he is scum he wouldn't throw this game like this.

I will not jail Chaos.

but Mort, If Chaos is scum, you will not have anyone to confirm his status anymore. I am as good as dead after this day.

And lets also talk who I am going to Jail tonight.

Why are we not talking about LIZ? I am worried when we have a neutral player.

In post 2673, ArcAngel9 wrote:Mort - you want to take a risk of lynching someone town?

You and I know very well that I won't survive tonight and I want to confirm if Chaos is really town or not.

If we go through no lynch today, On D4 you will have Chaos is confirmed town, RB confirmed town.

You will be left with Naomi, Liz, RK, Nero and yourself to know who is scum among you.

OR

If the chaos is scum, even better. the game is over. We will bag a perfect town lynch victory.

WE are not in lylo we can afford 3 miss lynches before lylo. assuming you don't prevent a kill between then and now.

VOTE: RK

Now off from Nero wagon please.

In post 2685, ArcAngel9 wrote:VOTE: RK

Now off from Nero wagon please.

OH MY FUCKING GOD HOW CAN YOU BE SO BAD ARRRGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!

I'm arc I'm gonna use my PR on someone who EVERYONE IS TOWN READING WASTING A CONFIRMATION. Oh no they was town. what a MOTHER FUCKING TWIST. Oh I guess I'll town read the only person REDS WAS NOT PUSHING FOR ON THE TIMES THEY WAS ALIVE BECAUSE ACTIVELY LURKING (Confirmed by mod not poking) IS TOTALLY AN OKAY THING TO DO! OH AND WATCH OUT FOR THE COP THAT FOUND RED BECAUSE THEY LIVED! oh AND BEACUSE I VOTED THE PERSON THE REDS WAS PUSHING AFTER BEING SHOWN THEY WAS PUSHING IT, THAT TOTALLY STOPS THE TOTALLY SCUM DRIVEN PUSH ON THE ONE PERSON WHO THERE NOT ON >_<


FJBNASOGNEO[GNBZSDOLPFVBNIBNKDA >_< arc OH MY GOD YOU SUCK!

Damn I entirely Forgot the no lynch because when we are at Lylo -4 days we should be totally worried >_<

In post 2687, Naomi-Tan wrote:I'm arc I'm gonna use my PR on someone who EVERYONE IS TOWN READING WASTING A CONFIRMATION. Oh no they was town. what a MOTHER FUCKING TWIST. Oh I guess I'll town read the only person REDS WAS NOT PUSHING FOR ON THE TIMES THEY WAS ALIVE BECAUSE ACTIVELY LURKING (Confirmed by mod not poking) IS TOTALLY AN OKAY THING TO DO! OH AND WATCH OUT FOR THE COP THAT FOUND RED BECAUSE THEY LIVED! oh AND BEACUSE I VOTED THE PERSON THE REDS WAS PUSHING AFTER BEING SHOWN THEY WAS PUSHING IT, THAT TOTALLY STOPS THE TOTALLY SCUM DRIVEN PUSH ON THE ONE PERSON WHO THERE NOT ON >_<


FJBNASOGNEO[GNBZSDOLPFVBNIBNKDA >_< arc OH MY GOD YOU SUCK!

LUV is really good as scum as demonstrated in 1833.

I'm thinking out possibilities.

Today we lynch Nero or RK.
Tonight Arc or Chaos is targeted for nightkill. Arc jails Nero or RK, tells us who beforehand. Assume Arc dies.
7 people alive. Whoever Arc jailed is confirmed town. Lynch pool is Shadow, LUV, Mort, Naomi, Chaos. Chaos gets a result. Hopefully on LUV or Naomi. We lynch the other one.
Next night. Someone dies. I'll just assume it's Chaos.
5 people alive. Lynch pool is Shadow, LUV/Naomi, Mort. I'd lynch LUV/Naomi here but I suspect I'll end up being the lynch.
Night. rb dies.
3 people alive. LYLO. LUV/Naomi, me, Shadow. Shadow and I lynch LUV/Naomi.

So even if no investigations, jks or lynches hit scum, we still have decent shot at winning in LYLO.

That assumes Chaos is town. Hm, I just realized. Day 6 is LYLO right? So if Chaos lives until then and is scum he can deliver a guilty verdict on a townie. I was going to say that Chaos should be a PL on Day 6, but it won't matter then. So that's a little sticky.

@Naomi - Chaos didn't out Toto, Arc did. Chaos giving guilty on Toto would always happen regardless of Chaos' alignment. Once scum!Chaos saw that the nightkill failed he'd know that Arc jailed Toto, and would want to claim her alignment first.

Hm I missed something in my analysis. Disregard it, I'll do a more detailed one when I'm not in a car.

Alright, there are 9 people in this game:

1 confirmed town (rb)
2 claimed PRs (Arc, Chaos)
6 others

Of the 6 others, we lynch one today, investigate one tonight, and jail one tonight. 3 others, 7 alive D4. Presumably, Arc is dead at this point. We lynch the 3 others D4, D5, D6, and that's the game. If I am alive D6, I get added to the other pool, but I get another investigation to clear another player. If Arc is kept alive to D6, she clears so many people it's not funny.

If the last scum wants to concede and end this shitshow of a game, I don't blame you.

D6 is LYLO, Chaos. You being alive D6 doesn't matter, you could be scum or town then.

That is - your being alive would not be a reason to trust your investigation.

In post 2691, MortFeld wrote:@Naomi - Chaos didn't out Toto, Arc did. Chaos giving guilty on Toto would always happen regardless of Chaos' alignment. Once scum!Chaos saw that the nightkill failed he'd know that Arc jailed Toto, and would want to claim her alignment first.

You know what fine. if your gonna chaos conspricy theory I'll give you a counter theory

Arc is red. She organised with her team to no shoot N2 so she could claim to have jailed toto for the no shot. and when they flipped red arc is confirmed. Then targets a confirmed townie and a claimed VT night 2 to make sure no one could tell.

>_< Frustrated Nao is frustrated, this theory is just as valid as the Chaos!red theory. But neither of them do I think we should be considering.

In fact given she targeted a VT its prob more valid than her theory -_-

Still lynch nero.

In post 2697, Naomi-Tan wrote:

In post 2691, MortFeld wrote:@Naomi - Chaos didn't out Toto, Arc did. Chaos giving guilty on Toto would always happen regardless of Chaos' alignment. Once scum!Chaos saw that the nightkill failed he'd know that Arc jailed Toto, and would want to claim her alignment first.

You know what fine. if your gonna chaos conspricy theory I'll give you a counter theory

It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a fact. If Chaos is scum, he would have outed Toto as soon as possible. No other option was viable.