Role Call I (Game Over)

[Bingle]

why can't momo and AP both be scum?

I don't see AP murderbonering this hard for a buddy.

[popsofctown]

I see that post now
It is pretty unlikely but not as impossible as Creature/momo

[AP]

Lynch: Creature
Treestump: Austin Powers
N2 BP: Apthet
Revisor: CheekyTeeky
Even Tracker: popsofctown
Psychologist: Bingle
Role caller: pisskop
Post Restricted: Lil Uzi Vert
Chronomancer: Dunnstral
Double Voter: Hidden Happiness
Captain: Gamma Emerald

The classic partners tell.. do a list and forget to include my p.

[Bingle]

I just realized we can hard confirm CT if we want by using the tracker.

Not sure that it's worth invalidating the tracker though.

[AP]

If I'm Treestumped I'm going to confine myself to posting photos of myself in the nude. The BEST way to get back at stupidity is to torture you all with those hairy body images.

[Bingle]

I see that post now
It is pretty unlikely but not as impossible as Creature/momo

Yeah, I'm saying I think both of those are unlikely to net two scum, so I kind of want to either lynch one of Creature/AP or lynch momo, and then have the other lynch be someone who is scummy outside of that whole mess, because if we hit scum with the lynch then it doesn't help to have a not partners read on a dead player, which I think is the gist of your statement in the first place.

[Bingle]

Pisskop, HH, who do you guys think are scum?

cheeks
critter
momo
gamma?
nero?

Talk to me about Gamma. I don't see a reason to go into Nero/Cheeky atm.

[Bingle]

AP, what was your reasoning on LUV town? I feel like you probably addressed it and I missed it, but I wanna hear the thought process.

[popsofctown]

I just realized we can hard confirm CT if we want by using the tracker.

Not sure that it's worth invalidating the tracker though.

Rolestop though

[Bingle]

I just realized we can hard confirm CT if we want by using the tracker.

Not sure that it's worth invalidating the tracker though.

Rolestop though

Yeah, and if they rolestop CT to stop the tracker the FN has to go through.

My only concern is that if CT targets a townread, they're likely to die. If CT targets antitown, they can false dichotomy or claim rolestop.

I think the risk of leaving it unleashed is > the reward here though, because tracker investigation has a chance of netting scum where FN doesn't.

[pisskop]

chaining cheeks is meh tbh. Either she succeeds or she dies later. the end

[callforjudgement]

Game status

There have been no proposals yet today.

List of roles to distribute

Proposal available

(11): momo, popsofctown, Lil Uzi Vert, AP, pisskop, Bingle, apthet, Dunnstral, CheekyTeeky, Gamma Emerald, Creature

Proposal unavailable

(1): Hidden Happiness

To end day with a particular role assignment, one player must propose it, and 7 players vote for it.
Deadline is currently 06:00 UTC on Friday 2 August (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2019-08-02 06:00:00)

). It will be extended when a proposal is made.

Unofficial vote count

Creature

(1): popsofctown

These votes don't do anything, but I'm counting them anyway.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm in chaiiiiiiinssss

[Dunnstral]

Pops can you walk me through why giving me the pseudo doctor makes sense

[CheekyTeeky]

Yeah no point in tracking me.

Either I'm scum and I lie about my target which you find out by giving me an op role next phase or lynching me.
Or I'm town and either successfully gain a conf town who can corroborate or FN fails to reveal scum.
If scum shoot me then we waste both my shot and the tracker which is el terrible.
I am not a good scum player I will be found out one way or another so yeah.

[CheekyTeeky]

I would still prefer LUV lynch to Creature lynch.

[Hidden Happiness]

I liked the mechanics talk! Specifically trying to keep active people active and passive people passive is an angle I hadn't thought of but makes huge sense for role dist.
You can include me as voting for luv lynch/ creature treestump, Bingy

Thinking we'll actually catch two scum together seems a little ambitious from what I remember of MS lynching records

[Hidden Happiness]

If CT "happens" to target a townread and they die overnight I don't see how tracking her to that would make us lynch her more/less

[pisskop]

If CT "happens" to target a townread and they die overnight I don't see how tracking her to that would make us lynch her more/less

If we happened to catch her it would be a scumclaim

[Hidden Happiness]

I'm just saying that tracker or not any claim that starts with 'i targetted the dead guy' is not going to go well

[Bingle]

Previous Counts:post 2669
post 2561
post 2520

VoteCount 2.4

Threshhold is 7.

Lynch:

LUV (4): Creature, Jingle, CT, HH
Creature (1): pops
momo (1?): pisskop?

Treestump:

AP (2): Creature, pops
Jingle (1): LUV
Creature (1): HH

Votes/Hurt Tags make this a lot easier for me to keep track of, just saying.

[Bingle]

Yeah no point in tracking me.

Either I'm scum and I lie about my target which you find out by giving me an op role next phase or lynching me.
Or I'm town and either successfully gain a conf town who can corroborate or FN fails to reveal scum.
If scum shoot me then we waste both my shot and the tracker which is el terrible.
I am not a good scum player I will be found out one way or another so yeah.

?

As it stands, if CT gives FN to rolestopped player, she's pretty much autolynched.
If CT gives FN to scum, they can fake being the rolestopped player and she's pretty much autolynched.

If we track CT to someone who claims not to have received something, then necessarily one of the two is lying scum. (CT is a visitor because scum or the target is lying about having received the Friendly notification).
If the track on CT fails, we know that anyone who claims to not have a result from CT is a hard 1v1.

The two potential issues are Scum CT targeting a partner who lies to corroborate or CT's target dying. Both of which are 'solved' by leashing her onto the BP. Scum could use the rolestop to prevent CT's action from going through, but that means that apthet's invention and the psychologist are necessarily successful.



Still, I think the potential for a tracker to catch scum is better than jumping through all of these hoops.

[popsofctown]

Pops can you walk me through why giving me the pseudo doctor makes sense

because it's not a doctor. A chrono'd and murdered player can do absolutely nothing but post opinions in thread, and only for one day. That's it. They no longer count towards the town win condition, they no longer use their PRs, and they no longer vote. They cannot even include hard investigative information amongst these opinions they post in thread, because that's blocked.

the chrono is a gimped roleblocker/rolestopper that only works on investigative roles. It can delay the tracker or psychologist until such a point when the tracker or psychologist are dead, and in the case of connecting the shot with a Friendly Neighbor recipient it will result in us outright lynching someone we would have IC'd instead were it not for the chrono role. It's very negative utility therefore I want it on confirmed town, particularly confirmed town that will get shot and bury the role in the ground.

If on more person calls chrono a protective role i'll lose it. No one in this playerlist is good enough at mafia that I respect a day of their opinions over a night of tracking or psychology.

[AP]

Yeah no point in tracking me.

Either I'm scum and I lie about my target which you find out by giving me an op role next phase or lynching me.
Or I'm town and either successfully gain a conf town who can corroborate or FN fails to reveal scum.
If scum shoot me then we waste both my shot and the tracker which is el terrible.
I am not a good scum player I will be found out one way or another so yeah.

?

As it stands, if CT gives FN to rolestopped player, she's pretty much autolynched.
If CT gives FN to scum, they can fake being the rolestopped player and she's pretty much autolynched.

If we track CT to someone who claims not to have received something, then necessarily one of the two is lying scum. (CT is a visitor because scum or the target is lying about having received the Friendly notification).
If the track on CT fails, we know that anyone who claims to not have a result from CT is a hard 1v1.

The two potential issues are Scum CT targeting a partner who lies to corroborate or CT's target dying. Both of which are 'solved' by leashing her onto the BP. Scum could use the rolestop to prevent CT's action from going through, but that means that apthet's invention and the psychologist are necessarily successful.



Still, I think the potential for a tracker to catch scum is better than jumping through all of these hoops.

Bingle, you're not making much sense here. Please bring back Jingle!

So, Cheeky targets the BP, and Tracker verifies she did target the BP. BP says they didn't get the message and we lynch one of the BP or CT. They flip Town and we lynch the other one and they also flip Town. What next? Oh! We TOLD THE SCUM BEFOREHAND to ROLESTOP THE BP, so they won't get the FN message.

[AP]

AP, what was your reasoning on LUV town? I feel like you probably addressed it and I missed it, but I wanna hear the thought process.

Just a feeling. His posts and stances are too stupid to come from manipulative scum, and iirc LUV prefers to play SCUM!