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Post Post #2675 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:00 am

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I think Amrun is town.
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Post Post #2676 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:01 am

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In post 2665, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 2663, Menalque wrote:EP, i can’t remember if you’re already voting for scum but if you’re not could u please do that by typing

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[vote]amrun[/vote]


Into a post and then submitting it ty
I'll check our Amrun's ISO first.
Okay I will look forward to your imminent amrun vote once you’re back
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Post Post #2677 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:01 am

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*punches Dave 58 times*
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Post Post #2678 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:02 am

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In post 2675, davesaz wrote:I think Amrun is town.
Yeah nah
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Post Post #2679 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:02 am

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Is there an easy way to find people's ISO's? Sifting through all these pages to find posts from specific players for their ISO's is tedious.
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Post Post #2680 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:03 am

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In post 2672, Amrun wrote:
In post 2649, Menalque wrote:
In post 2642, AaronFrost wrote:I mean sure? I don't really see why Amrun is obv scum though but I'm not necessarily opposed to the wagon.

VOTE: Amrun
Lots of posturing and trying to look like she’s doing something without really doing much of anything

Quite a lot of empty posting in her ISO

Fb push is v bad and reads as scum going after someone they think is a viable mislynch

Is the gist of it

Also, noice
Empty posting?! EMPTY posting?! From the person whose FIRST thing of substance has been THIS exact post? Countless number of stupid politics posts? I don’t have any empty posts except complaining about shitposting from people like you.

That’s so ridiculous it actually pisses me off.

Despite the fact that this push is moronic and devoid of any reasoning that makes ANY sense, I actually like it from you since I’m not low hanging fruit. It makes me think you are not scum. I think it will attract some scum sheep, too, so it’s fine. Stupid, but fine. It will generate information whatever the outcome.

Full admission (and have never pretended otherwise) that my “case” on Firebringer could be play style related, but there’s a fairly large number of other people that would be significantly easier to get lynched if that were my goal. That is one of the weakest arguments I’ve ever seen

P-edit: Rauth, I was pretty clearly stating that Bingle’s case against you had merit. That doesn’t necessarily mean I’m willing to lynch you at this juncture.
This is a scum reaction

Feigned outrage

“HoW dArE yUo ScUmReaD mE oFf mY pLAy tHiS gAmE”
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Post Post #2681 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:03 am

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In post 2679, EspressoPatronum wrote:Is there an easy way to find people's ISO's? Sifting through all these pages to find posts from specific players for their ISO's is tedious.
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Post Post #2682 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:03 am

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Activity overview, lower right corner of the screen above the Jump to
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Post Post #2683 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:04 am

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In post 2679, EspressoPatronum wrote:Is there an easy way to find people's ISO's? Sifting through all these pages to find posts from specific players for their ISO's is tedious.
Bruh the bottom go literally every page bruh
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Post Post #2684 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:04 am

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“Display posts by user”
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Post Post #2685 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:07 am

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In post 2682, Rautherdir wrote:Activity overview, lower right corner of the screen above the Jump to
In post 2683, Menalque wrote:
In post 2679, EspressoPatronum wrote:Is there an easy way to find people's ISO's? Sifting through all these pages to find posts from specific players for their ISO's is tedious.
Bruh the bottom go literally every page bruh
In post 2684, Menalque wrote:“Display posts by user”
Thanks! I can't believe I haven't done this before. I've wasted soooo much time in past games just sifting through pages to find a specific person's ISO. :facepalm:
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Post Post #2686 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:13 am

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I despise pushy people. If I go to the store and a salesperson follows me around, I'll go to a different store.
Menalque is a salesperson in a game where the best way to win is to let people think and make up their own minds.
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Post Post #2687 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:17 am

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I disagree that Amrun is town.
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Post Post #2688 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:17 am

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In post 2680, Menalque wrote:
In post 2672, Amrun wrote:
In post 2649, Menalque wrote:
In post 2642, AaronFrost wrote:I mean sure? I don't really see why Amrun is obv scum though but I'm not necessarily opposed to the wagon.

VOTE: Amrun
Lots of posturing and trying to look like she’s doing something without really doing much of anything

Quite a lot of empty posting in her ISO

Fb push is v bad and reads as scum going after someone they think is a viable mislynch

Is the gist of it

Also, noice
Empty posting?! EMPTY posting?! From the person whose FIRST thing of substance has been THIS exact post? Countless number of stupid politics posts? I don’t have any empty posts except complaining about shitposting from people like you.

That’s so ridiculous it actually pisses me off.

Despite the fact that this push is moronic and devoid of any reasoning that makes ANY sense, I actually like it from you since I’m not low hanging fruit. It makes me think you are not scum. I think it will attract some scum sheep, too, so it’s fine. Stupid, but fine. It will generate information whatever the outcome.

Full admission (and have never pretended otherwise) that my “case” on Firebringer could be play style related, but there’s a fairly large number of other people that would be significantly easier to get lynched if that were my goal. That is one of the weakest arguments I’ve ever seen

P-edit: Rauth, I was pretty clearly stating that Bingle’s case against you had merit. That doesn’t necessarily mean I’m willing to lynch you at this juncture.
This is a scum reaction

Feigned outrage

“HoW dArE yUo ScUmReaD mE oFf mY pLAy tHiS gAmE”
I didn’t say you couldn’t scumread me. That’s part of the game.

But to pretend like your argument isn’t weak to say that I have “empty posting” when you’ve literally done nothing but blatantly off topic post the entire game is frustrating and makes me a little bit mad. It’s even more frustrating because the fact that you’re doing it, and so weakly, probably does make YOU town.

Browbeating people into sheeping you does not an argument make.
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Post Post #2689 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:20 am

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It’s D1 still so, I appoint myself as designated hammerer as always.
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Post Post #2690 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:20 am

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I’ll make sure to share the Bubbly when I do get to whackin.
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Post Post #2691 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:21 am

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Also, Icon is voting her so it makes me want to join that wagon even less. Although getting together a 21 player wagon in like a week that I'm comfortable with is going to be nigh on impossible. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if we no lynched @ this rate.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #2692 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:23 am

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In post 2587, chkflip wrote:You have 6 days, 11 hours, 37 minutes left in this phase.
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edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #2693 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:23 am

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In post 2676, Menalque wrote:
In post 2665, EspressoPatronum wrote:
In post 2663, Menalque wrote:EP, i can’t remember if you’re already voting for scum but if you’re not could u please do that by typing

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[vote]amrun[/vote]


Into a post and then submitting it ty
I'll check our Amrun's ISO first.
Okay I will look forward to your imminent amrun vote once you’re back
Amrun's first post is a red flag + I think she could be scum because of it. My first instinct as scum is to contribute and feign proactivity asap, and scum!me has actually done a shotgun readslist like that before. If Amrun is scum, it's very likely she wanted to start off strong... but the reasoning behind the reads is too hollow imo.

However, I don't think we should lynch her today for 3 reasons.
1. I don't think her first post or the posts you listed make a slam-dunk scum case.
2. I liked Amrun's reaction to your push. it conveyed a bit too much outrage for my liking, but I liked the substance.
3. Amrun has been very active.

In light of the above - especially #3 - I think we should aim our lynch at the bottom of the post counts. I've played several large mafia games off-site + lurkers always pose a significant threat to town. On the one hand, lurker scum can play under the radar for a long time. On the other hand, lurker town give their fellow townies few opportunities to generate reads on them, leaving the lurker townies as lylo threats in the endgame. Not only do lurkers pose a double threat to town, it's also worth noting that scum rarely kill lurkers. As a result, lurkers make it a lot further than they should, despite minimal contribution.
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Post Post #2694 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:24 am

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wooper is gonna lurk his way to victory.
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edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #2695 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:25 am

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Pushing for lurkers is always a bit contentious, but ask yourself this -- if we don't vote them now, when will we vote them?
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Post Post #2696 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:28 am

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@MOD: Is the lynch deadline really 7 days for a 40 player game?

I'm an open advocate for generally shorter deadlines, but applying a scaling factor for number of players this is like a mini with a 2-3 day deadline.
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Post Post #2697 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:29 am

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my case is wooper isn't b/c he was a lurker man. But yes, and especially with a 6 day deadline lynching a lurker/noncontributer seems like a good idea.
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edited c.s. lewis quote b/c limit
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Post Post #2698 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:29 am

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In post 2587, chkflip wrote:Cult Q&A is coming, these last couple days have been a little busy for me.
RCE, where did you learn this would happen?
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Post Post #2699 (ISO) » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:30 am

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In post 2696, davesaz wrote:
@MOD: Is the lynch deadline really 7 days for a 40 player game?

I'm an open advocate for generally shorter deadlines, but applying a scaling factor for number of players this is like a mini with a 2-3 day deadline.
I don’t think he’s updated the deadline since election phase ended
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