In post 2505, Raya36 wrote:my next problem is if you were town you should be taking a stance whether you're confident or not. If you're town you want to put pressure on people to get a read on them. Saying such non-committal statements won't get that reaction and therefore won't gain you as much info.
How is this even alignment indicative?! That’s more of a play style thing.
Of course NDMath has to make it obvious that he’s passing to PB/Dunn just to make himself look more townie
At this rate, town is going to be lynched again today. Hooray for group think.
In post 2505, Raya36 wrote:my next problem is if you were town you should be taking a stance whether you're confident or not. If you're town you want to put pressure on people to get a read on them. Saying such non-committal statements won't get that reaction and therefore won't gain you as much info.
How is this even alignment indicative?! That’s more of a play style thing.
Is that actually your playstyle though or is it just how you're acting this game since you're scum? If it's your playstyle can you link me to some of your town games that you do this in
TBH, I don’t think reading these two games would really help. The main points is that I was a lot more obnoxious as town, and a lot more safe as scum.
Take that as you will.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:06 am
by Pink Ball
You've been pretty safe in this game ngl
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:09 am
by midwaybear
You’ve been pretty death tunnely this game ngl
Also, that’s why I said those two games won’t really help.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:21 am
by Raya36
So the first thing I notice in your town game is that about 200 posts in you say you scumread 3 people whereas here all your reads are non-committal and not confident. 250 or so posts in you state your 3 scumreads and you give reasoning for all. Very different than your play here still. You had a decently large case about 700 posts in. You were making confident statements about players being scum. I'm actually not seeing any of the unconfident reads you're giving in this game. Also your posts were much longer and more solvey.
In your scum game:
You definitely do take more confident stances than you do here. But in the spoiler I put all of the quotes I found that resemble your non-committal play here.
Spoiler:
"I can see why there's momentum gathering toward him, and I am now suspicious of him"
"Big Chief has the potential to be really helpful, but I'm really split."
" I have a suspicion about DK, so I guess I'll trust DK for now?"
"While this normally would be suspicious, clidd's arguments made sense."
"Normally inactivity is a sign of mafia, but I don't really get a mafia type feeling."
"Also, votato seems a bit opportunistic"
"I think Knightmare has been pretty suspicious recently. I don't know what to think of it because he seemed like a locktown early game..."
"I don't really like the way clidd posts sometimes, but that's sorta harsh."
"readlist
townlean-DK,knightmare
null town-votato
null-freddie
null scum-Lil Singham
scumlean-spring"
(my point being no hard scum)
"knightmare started more cautiously which I like. One thing I didn't like was how he basically associated himself with Baezu"
"I liked his early day contribution and what he thought of everyone else. Although some of the points he made were bad"
"Spoiler: my thoughts about knight,votato"
This one is kinda long but basically it explains all the TvS/TvT/SvS interaction possibilities
"I get a weird feeling from your slot"
"Idk I never really liked freddie, but I know he is new. I don't really want to give him a pass though because we are in lylo"
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:22 am
by Raya36
If anyone else feels like skimming his iso in those two games just to make sure I'm not tunneling and seeing what I want to see that would be great
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:26 am
by Titus
I feel so frustrated at the amount of meta requests in this game when the game should be solved by strategic motivations.
Oh and approve the quiz 2020.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:28 am
by Raya36
I'm seeing that too Titus, I just like meta to back it up sometimes
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:31 am
by midwaybear
In post 2682, Raya36 wrote:If anyone else feels like skimming his iso in those two games just to make sure I'm not tunneling and seeing what I want to see that would be great
The only thing I said that remotely resemble what I said there is my read about ABR. You're tunneling.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:31 am
by Starbuck
Make sure you bold that so the mod can see it, Titus.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:37 am
by Titus
In post 2686, Starbuck wrote:Make sure you bold that so the mod can see it, Titus.
I approved it ages ago. I was just campaigning. We need two more votes. Ideally fast because of the deadline.
Hopefully, we can count on Math. I still feel a little hurt you saved Math over me but at least that might help TSE stop his tunnel unless he tunnels you + NDMath.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:52 am
by Pink Ball
In post 2678, midwaybear wrote:TBH, I don’t think reading these two games would really help. The main points is that I was a lot more obnoxious as town, and a lot more safe as scum.
Take that as you will.
Yes I'm tunneling. You can tunnel on scum too
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:53 am
by Pink Ball
What's the proposed quiz team and who is unchained right now?
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:59 am
by Raya36
Proposed quiz is me, farside, Unwnd, Starbuck under the plan to run it back again but with Unwnd who is almost for sure town.
I think it's Titus, Dunnstral, Pink Ball, TrueSoulEnergy, midwaybear who are chainless
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:59 am
by Titus
In post 2690, Raya36 wrote:Proposed quiz is me, farside, Unwnd, Starbuck under the plan to run it back again but with Unwnd who is almost for sure town.
I think it's Titus, Dunnstral, Pink Ball, TrueSoulEnergy, midwaybear who are chainless
In post 2686, Starbuck wrote:Make sure you bold that so the mod can see it, Titus.
I approved it ages ago. I was just campaigning. We need two more votes. Ideally fast because of the deadline.
Hopefully, we can count on Math. I still feel a little hurt you saved Math over me but at least that might help TSE stop his tunnel unless he tunnels you + NDMath.
I feel like you're redeeming the slot immensely, but I'm still not comfortable there. My choices, of who was left, came down to ND, PB, and a far reach on Dunn given his swap abouts recently.
I really disagree with the policy push on ND because I kinda view him like Silent Bob. He isn't a fluffy poster, nor is he over the top aggressive. He seems to say what he means and means what he says, and speaks only when he feels his voice is needed. I can respect that and if I'm totally wrong on him, then y'all can yell at me post-game.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:01 am
by Raya36
Right, and spring
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:02 am
by Titus
The chain less situation worries me because my three scum picks are not likely to save me, TSE will save midway if given the option, and pink ball. Pink Ball is 50/50 on killing me. So that leaves NDMath to vote to save me. I am not optimistic.
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:05 am
by midwaybear
hmph TSE isn't going to save me because he thinks me flipping town is going to make you all magically sheep him(IT'S NOT)
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:06 am
by Titus
In post 2695, midwaybear wrote:hmph TSE isn't going to save me because he thinks me flipping town is going to make you all magically sheep him(IT'S NOT)
You flipping town would actually disprove my theory and have me reset. Sheep him no, but reset yes.
In post 2694, Titus wrote:The chain less situation worries me because my three scum picks are not likely to save me, TSE will save midway if given the option, and pink ball. Pink Ball is 50/50 on killing me. So that leaves NDMath to vote to save me. I am not optimistic.
50/50? More like... Well yeah 50/50. You don't like the dynamic of fighting spring to death?
