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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:59 am
by Dwlee99
Actually... why would scum have an alien and a jailkeeper? Mm am I overthinking this?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:00 am
by Scorpious
In post 2675, Dwlee99 wrote:Actually... why would scum have an alien and a jailkeeper? Mm am I overthinking this?
What does Alien do?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:01 am
by Dwlee99
Combined roleblocker rolestopper - roleblocks and prevents roles from successfully targeting the target

Alien enabler implies alien of some sort exists. Town or scum I'm not sure. But if scum they probably wouldn't give scum a jailkeeper and an alien

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:03 am
by Dwlee99
There's also the question of — who would scorpious have jailkept? If I were scum I'd have blocked the 1-shot rolecop claim (I never actually believed the 1-shot part, didn't expect follower though)

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:04 am
by Dwlee99
But Scorpious didn't block the rolecop claim so... who would he have? If someone is a town alien you should probably claim

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:10 am
by Scorpious
In post 2635, Andante wrote:dont have to tell me twice to vote scorp
VOTE: Scoepious

I’m thinking it is but can we confirm this is valid?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:11 am
by wavemode
For what it's worth, I also think it's weird that they have an alien enabler and a jailkeeper

If I were fakeclaiming I would have just said he abducted. Or just left that part out, the nightkill was enough

As it stands all I can say is, that's a Datisi setup for you lol

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:12 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2680, Scorpious wrote:
In post 2635, Andante wrote:dont have to tell me twice to vote scorp
VOTE: Scoepious

I’m thinking it is but can we confirm this is valid?
Confirm what as valid?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:13 am
by Scorpious
In post 2682, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 2680, Scorpious wrote:
In post 2635, Andante wrote:dont have to tell me twice to vote scorp
VOTE: Scoepious

I’m thinking it is but can we confirm this is valid?
Confirm what as valid?
The vote

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:13 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2681, wavemode wrote:For what it's worth, I also think it's weird that they have an alien enabler and a jailkeeper

If I were fakeclaiming I would have just said he abducted. Or just left that part out, the nightkill was enough

As it stands all I can say is, that's a Datisi setup for you lol
That's gonna be counted as a vote yea

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:37 am
by Umlaut
UNVOTE: Scorpius

I need to think a little more about this. Scorp was
hard
pushing the Nero wagon yesterday and didn't even back off after his claim which would have been the natural time for distancing scum to find something else to do. And claiming VT instead of something possibly compatible with Wave's result is a weird move for scum. (Though also it would be hard to come up with anything compatible with that result so maybe not
so
so weird but still a little weird.)

I don't see a reason for scum!wave to 1v1 Scorpius like this but people do dumb things all the time. Probably the best way to resolve it is just to launch Scorp. But all the same I want to think about whether I really believe it or not

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:41 am
by Umlaut
In post 2677, Dwlee99 wrote:Combined roleblocker rolestopper - roleblocks and prevents roles from successfully targeting the target

Alien enabler implies alien of some sort exists. Town or scum I'm not sure. But if scum they probably wouldn't give scum a jailkeeper and an alien
In general, X Enabler doesn't require that an X exist in the setup. It's maybe more likely than not, but not that much given the current typical normal setup these days. NRG is specifically trying to promote setups that discourage "guess the setup" reasoning so having an alien enabler for no reason is not that far out there.

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:50 am
by Dwlee99
You keep doing this "why would scum not try to claim something compatible" thing but combined jailkeeper vigilante is so ridiculous idk how that's more convincing than going "no you"

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:52 am
by Stephen A Smith
i had a dream you were a baddie last night dlee

also im ready to launch scorp cuz guilty

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:52 am
by Dwlee99
Last time you dreamt something wasn't it horribly wrong

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:53 am
by Stephen A Smith
yea you're lucky in that respect

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:53 am
by Stephen A Smith
my subconscious mind bailing you out

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:54 am
by Stephen A Smith
unless I'm getting trolled by my subconscious again

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:54 am
by Stephen A Smith
i still want to hear what your pr tell on nero was

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:55 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2685, Umlaut wrote:UNVOTE: Scorpius

I need to think a little more about this. Scorp was
hard
pushing the Nero wagon yesterday and didn't even back off after his claim which would have been the natural time for distancing scum to find something else to do. And claiming VT instead of something possibly compatible with Wave's result is a weird move for scum. (Though also it would be hard to come up with anything compatible with that result so maybe not
so
so weird but still a little weird.)

I don't see a reason for scum!wave to 1v1 Scorpius like this but people do dumb things all the time. Probably the best way to resolve it is just to launch Scorp. But all the same I want to think about whether I really believe it or not
Also: a bit of tinfoil here but if you're scum and you have to deal with a gunsmith, a backup gunsmith, and a rolecop, maybe you purposefully bus the alien enabler to prevent an alien from protecting the gunsmith?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:56 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2626, Dwlee99 wrote:I thought the way Nero approached his wagon was a PR tell. When he reached E-1 he continued just doing whatever instead of immediately claiming which reminded me of when I was a vigilante and did the same thing. My post here
In post 1411, Dwlee99 wrote:Nero? Rabbit? Yay or nay?
Was a reference to dogs vs cats mafia where nero was a vigilante cause I thought he could be a vigilante this game based on him responding similarly to the way I did when I was a vigilante to being wagoned
@Stephen

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 7:57 am
by Dwlee99
VOTE: Scorpious
I'm good going here.

I am reminded by a voice in my head (it's Koba's): read > mech

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:14 am
by Stephen A Smith
"I thought the way Nero approached his wagon was a PR tell. When he reached E-1 he continued just doing whatever instead of immediately claiming which reminded me of when I was a vigilante and did the same thing."

this is just behavioral.

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:15 am
by Stephen A Smith
In post 2513, Dwlee99 wrote:It is also playing to win this game — outing a tell could help scum find other PRs
also how does this tell even jive with this ?

who else displayed this tell? I can't even remember anyone else this game getting up to e-1 and being nonchalant about it?

Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:16 am
by Dwlee99
Every tell is behavioral what are you on

Also I felt like scorpious has played similarly when run up but he's probably just scum