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Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:27 pm
by fireisredsir
yea i was just gonna say, assuming you're town i think its ideal to propose to whoever you trust most to be town rather than trying to hunt scum in this phase
i could be wrong on that but i think thats the play
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:31 pm
by fireisredsir
cause it makes the final phase a lot safer
like if you think scum is most likely in myko/ceph for example, and you are paranoid about one of me/bell, you should pair with the other one bc then even if we end up in final dance then you can just assume that the other pair contains the scum, whoever it is
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:37 pm
by Ginngie
Fuck because like for me my answer is Bell immediately.
My reads have been pretty bang on when I go with my initial gut reactions
Read one post of Dunns and was able to declare him town, Read 5 posts of Andante and was able to call them town, Read 2 posts of Mala and nailed scum, I fucked up Luke and Enchant sure, then still nailed Datisi off off initial readings I believe as well.
I'm at a point where this is a personal Elimination/Lose situation even tho it technically isn't. Now quite simply, I've been nailing a good portion of reads, and my set up spec has been on point. With that, I trust the most, after Andante, to be town is Bell. The only reason I'm doubting this is sheer paranoia but i preach that paranoia is what causes you to lose the final eliminations. So if my only reason is to scumread bell is because of paranoia, then that's no reason at all.
At this point I feel like I KNOW it's Cephrir; but being greedy and trying to go for the hero play will leave a debate for Fire/Myko if I'm wrong. That gives too much leeway for scum to comeback and pull something off.
Fuck I'm sorry but like my rankings is Bell, Fire, Myko, Ceph in level of trust on reading them as town.
I know Bell is town, it solves Myko, and then fire/Ceph solves each other final dance if it isn't Myko.
I feel like a dick kind of because I really just want to propose now and it's only been 30 minutes.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:41 pm
by Ginngie
outta respect imma give 24 hours of discussion about Bell because I'm pretty much locked in on proposing to Bell.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:42 pm
by fireisredsir
yeah if you townread bell most i think you go for them. no real need to rush but idk you do you. also that way if its myko i don't have to leave my buddy ceph who i really hope isn't scum bc the RNG gods can't really be that cruel can they
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:45 pm
by fireisredsir
if it's you I've p much already conceded at this point cause you would deserve it for going for the nutty play around andante and making her want to leave. i don't think it is, but still
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:48 pm
by Ginngie
There is no way anyone finds this game relaxing holy shit.
I'm so stressed staring at text on a screen lmao
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 3:49 pm
by Ginngie
Im just gonna go listen to positive affirmations
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:04 pm
by fireisredsir
is there any possible reason that a bell/datisi team would no kill in the previous phase
i can't think of one, i think that might be clearing tbh
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:25 pm
by Ginngie
I just dont see scum!bell killing Andante, when one, you could paranoia Andante into leaving the game, and two, their one confident scum read was Andante, so like while yeah wifom, i dont see scum!Bell making the game that much harder on themselves.
Idk Bell seems like the obvious choice. No one scumreads Bell, and NK analysis doesn't point to scum!bell either. My set up spec I think shows townpoints here as well.
I dont have any evidence to refute this townread and that's all I need.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:25 pm
by Ginngie
lmfao Myko ain't gonna like this
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:32 pm
by Bell
I’m very confused.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:33 pm
by Bell
This literally just makes it between myko and cephrir.
And we have two eliminations left. So like.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:36 pm
by Ginngie
My only guess is that it's a hail mary to confuse town
No kill was unexpected, so was the Andante kill
Purpose was to stoke paranoia and question everything. My experience tells me to ignore it tho
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:36 pm
by Ginngie
This means the kill worked
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:40 pm
by Bell
Externally I am a sea of calm and I have no paranoia whatsoever. If only because you both tried your best and I have actually read some of you two’s walls. So. Maybe.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:42 pm
by fireisredsir
In post 2687, Bell wrote:This literally just makes it between myko and cephrir.
And we have two eliminations left. So like.
yea idk. maybe scum was thinking that they could talk their way out of ginngie getting accepted by someone? or that she would choose incorrectly and they could win in final dance?
i think ginngie stands to gain the most from killing andante, probably, or at least thats what it looks like on the surface. so maybe scum were hoping to play into that fear
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:42 pm
by Bell
I’m not really worried. As both myko and Cephrir have noted I’m kind of a stubborn pain in the ass.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:45 pm
by fireisredsir
as long as you and ginngie are town its a win
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:46 pm
by Bell
My vote is on cephrir scum, but I can see polite myko scum.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:47 pm
by fireisredsir
my vote is on myko but i will admit i reread some ceph earlier and did think hmm
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:48 pm
by Ginngie
In post 2694, Bell wrote:My vote is on cephrir scum, but I can see polite myko scum.
Fire this is where I'm at,
I propose to Bell, Myko flips
if Final dance, fire leaves and we flip ceph scum.
I'm personally ready to go
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:50 pm
by Ginngie
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:50 pm
by Bell
Sounds good to me. We’ve all reviewed what we could of the associations.
Unless you guys wanna watch a 1v1 with ceph and Myko.
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:50 pm
by Bell