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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:34 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 2673, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 2659, Scorpious wrote:
In post 2656, KittyTacky wrote:I just can't look at someone who pushed a claimed investigative day 1 and say "yeah this is town". Absurd.
Assuming this is to me.

Every time you post I think scum more and more.

Can you please read my stuff instead of these weak one line generic quips.
I read your posts, I'm not blind, you hard pushed koopa after their claim. Doesn't make sense from a town POV.
Why would mafia hard push a role claimed town player right away without claiming themselves? I feel like people are conflating their dislike of Scorpious' posts with Scorpious actually being mafia.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:37 am
by Scorpious
In post 2674, MalcolmTucker wrote:I really don't like Andre essentially saying nothing at this point given how long they've been in the game, sure they won't go today but need to push there D2 to get them contributing. If they're mafia they've hidden away from any possible links so far.
In post 2673, KittyTacky wrote:
In post 2659, Scorpious wrote:
In post 2656, KittyTacky wrote:I just can't look at someone who pushed a claimed investigative day 1 and say "yeah this is town". Absurd.
Assuming this is to me.

Every time you post I think scum more and more.

Can you please read my stuff instead of these weak one line generic quips.
I read your posts, I'm not blind, you hard pushed koopa after their claim. Doesn't make sense from a town POV.
But you said I haven’t pushed anyone this game? Make up my mind..

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:39 am
by Scorpious
Again, disregard Malcom above..

I have zero idea why my phone does that

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:40 am
by KittyTacky
You pushed A CLAIMED INVESTIGATIVE POWER ROLE DAY 1.

Let's all wagon Scorp.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:41 am
by Scorpious
And the contradiction is met with CAPS LOCK ..

Nicely played.. my vote isn’t moving..

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:42 am
by KittyTacky
Said push didn't help to solve the game at all. I said you were not solving, not that you were not pushing. And you accused me of misrepping? Ok scum.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:43 am
by KittyTacky
In post 2665, Scorpious wrote:
In post 1662, KittyTacky wrote:
JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 1657, KittyTacky wrote:
moves JacksonVirgoon down to "Strong Scum"
You already had me there, you aren't fooling anyone.
You were a scumlean when I made my list. It's deffo you and Mala.
But no push on either? Just me? Hmmm..
I never said it couldn't be you, and I'm pretty sure I was also pushing you at the time.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:44 am
by KittyTacky
In post 2666, Scorpious wrote:
In post 2656, KittyTacky wrote:I just can't look at someone who pushed a claimed investigative day 1 and say "yeah this is town". Absurd.
And I’m just supposed say.. “garsh. You claimed town. No way you can be lying about that.. nobody ever lies in mafia..

Are you done here?

I am
Common procedure is to let the investigative claim live a day because if they get limmed, wow you hanged a crucial role.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:46 am
by KittyTacky
You're scum flailing.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:48 am
by Scorpious
In post 2683, KittyTacky wrote:You're scum flailing.
I’m flailing?

Funny, looks the opposite to me..

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:48 am
by koopashell
Scorpious treating NK15 claim and my claim differently is weird to me

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:48 am
by Not Known 15
Scorpious, please explain your ItalianoVD read.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:49 am
by Scorpious
You’re just throwing as much shit against the wall as you can..

I’m ok with that, it’s all baseless. You’re just reactively trying to tweak it to fit your narrative.

But do you, boo..

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:51 am
by Scorpious
In post 2686, Not Known 15 wrote:Scorpious, please explain your ItalianoVD read.
Just got done with a town Italiano, almost identical play..

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:51 am
by koopashell
In post 2687, Scorpious wrote:You’re just throwing as much shit against the wall as you can..

I’m ok with that, it’s all baseless. You’re just reactively trying to tweak it to fit your narrative.

But do you, boo..
You also see Gamma and I somehow as a viable team apparently

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:52 am
by Scorpious
I’m not doing this 2 v 1 right now..

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:53 am
by JacksonVirgo
I change my mind on scorp.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:53 am
by Scorpious
Chainsaw? I think it was referred to as..

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:01 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 2688, Scorpious wrote:
In post 2686, Not Known 15 wrote:Scorpious, please explain your ItalianoVD read.
Just got done with a town Italiano, almost identical play..
Do you think Italiano has a fundamentally different style as mafia? To me they've been playing a very careful game so far for the most part which could see them end up landing on either side. Clever mafia play if they're scum but it's certainly possible.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:01 am
by MalcolmTucker
I don't like Scorpious putting Gamma in their mafia reads when so far as I'm aware they've not particularly pushed that slot at all from what I can recall.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:04 am
by ItalianoVD
Common procedure is to let the investigative claim live a day because if they get limmed, wow you hanged a crucial role.[/quote]
I would assume common procedure is not to claim in the first place, especially within the context of this game. And look at what you said: “live a day”. Scum want to bide time because of the very fact that
“Common procedure is to let the investigative claim live a day”


Now I know the action is really nai, but as I said earlier claiming pr, at least in my mind, does not and should not clear you as town. If I found you scummy before the claim, I’m gonna still find you scummy after the claim, more or less based on the context and why you did it, to be fair.

All claims in this game have been pointless and stupid. This game is about deduction and strategy, not which pr can lead us to victory. I won’t be budging from within my limpool. And please don’t ask what it is, if you wanna know go find it within my iso please. I’m kinda done with this day.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:05 am
by ItalianoVD
Let’s try that again…
In post 2682, KittyTacky wrote: Common procedure is to let the investigative claim live a day because if they get limmed, wow you hanged a crucial role.
I would assume common procedure is not to claim in the first place, especially within the context of this game. And look at what you said: “live a day”. Scum want to bide time because of the very fact that
“Common procedure is to let the investigative claim live a day”


Now I know the action is really nai, but as I said earlier claiming pr, at least in my mind, does not and should not clear you as town. If I found you scummy before the claim, I’m gonna still find you scummy after the claim, more or less based on the context and why you did it, to be fair.

All claims in this game have been pointless and stupid. This game is about deduction and strategy, not which pr can lead us to victory. I won’t be budging from within my limpool. So if anybody wants to know who I’ll be voting for today

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:05 am
by Scorpious
In post 2693, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 2688, Scorpious wrote:
In post 2686, Not Known 15 wrote:Scorpious, please explain your ItalianoVD read.
Just got done with a town Italiano, almost identical play..
Do you think Italiano has a fundamentally different style as mafia? To me they've been playing a very careful game so far for the most part which could see them end up landing on either side. Clever mafia play if they're scum but it's certainly possible.
Idk. I’ve seen them once.. and it was town. I have no scum basis,but it doesn’t make sense to read them as scum if they are playing like the one game I saw them in as town.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:06 am
by MathBlade
In post 2669, Scorpious wrote:
In post 2667, Not Known 15 wrote:
In post 948, koopashell wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=86642
Did a meta dive on italiano to see if I could eliminate them from my PoE - looks like this game, is similar to this one in terms of play.
There are low intensity wolf and town games too I saw - but this stood out. I read their ISO and thought similar things I did here. They pushed players in a similar way.
Scorpious, can you give us a readslist please?
I hate lists, although FL made me like them a bit..

I recommend the entire Foundation series by Asimov
All of Shakespeare is essential
The Expanse series is probably my favorite Space opera
Game of Thrones was a great read but I had to take notes. Sooo many characters…

Ohhh, the game… list. Not rankings

Big T’s
————
Mala
Italiano
HEM
You

Little t’s
————
koopa(only because claim)
Jv(same reason)
Nk15(this is ridiculous)
Note: one of these is lying

Scums
————
Kitty
Math
GE

I have not focused on Roden or Malcom at all admittedly..
Care to explain why you think one of the little t’s are town lying versus scum lying?
I also don’t get why I am in your scum PoE?

Like this is really confusing.
Do you think there’s four scum or something?
I don’t see how this works.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:06 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 2697, Scorpious wrote:
In post 2693, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 2688, Scorpious wrote:
In post 2686, Not Known 15 wrote:Scorpious, please explain your ItalianoVD read.
Just got done with a town Italiano, almost identical play..
Do you think Italiano has a fundamentally different style as mafia? To me they've been playing a very careful game so far for the most part which could see them end up landing on either side. Clever mafia play if they're scum but it's certainly possible.
Idk. I’ve seen them once.. and it was town. I have no scum basis,but it doesn’t make sense to read them as scum if they are playing like the one game I saw them in as town.
Some players don't change style all that much. Indeed that's a perfectly good reason to believe someone could be clever mafia who manage to blend in. This is a pretty weak read if your basis for it is one game for meta.