In post 2636, ProHawk wrote:Oh, and you should check out this game if you are going to just claim a meta tell on me. Otherwise, I would love to hear why my "disengaged" play is scum-play.
I had 77 posts in a game of almost 2k posts. Heck, you can check any NY or large game. So excuse me while I call your read BS.
Do you find this as an acceptable reason NOT to lynch you? God damn, I hate people who come up with the defense of 'I always lurk', (which is this defense's twin brother) and then smartly say 'now prove it's scum-play'.
Not being in the game can be scum play because it's play generally regardless of alignment, and some times is play that regardless of alignment, gets you to the endgame.
One of my neighbors says we need to lynch your ass because 19 posts in 13 days from you too points to a scum role. While I almost choked on the pot-calling-the-kettle-blackness of it all, there may be some validity here.
I don't think it's AMOL ghost but he hasn't really come under much pressure compared to that game, where he and Amrun slugged it out for several pages and then he and SoO went at it for a while.
Bombast is part of his style. But, there's usually some decent and even impressive content mixed in. This doesn't feel right. I've been kinda waiting to see if it's the Town Ghostlin we all love, once he gets caught up. It's been quite a while since replacing in, though.
This was Banakai's slot, so have to weigh that up as well.
I don't think it's AMOL ghost but he hasn't really come under much pressure compared to that game, where he and Amrun slugged it out for several pages and then he and SoO went at it for a while.
Bombast is part of his style. But, there's usually some decent and even impressive content mixed in. This doesn't feel right. I've been kinda waiting to see if it's the Town Ghostlin we all love, once he gets caught up. It's been quite a while since replacing in, though.
This was Banakai's slot, so have to weigh that up as well.
What was your takeaway from the Banaki posts?
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:06 pm
by 1baldeagle1
Haven't posted here in awhile.
Still good with a Voided lynch. Pretty much all of the evidence said, is true.
Also, I'm starting to get a small scumread on Senald.
I don't think it's AMOL ghost but he hasn't really come under much pressure compared to that game, where he and Amrun slugged it out for several pages and then he and SoO went at it for a while.
Bombast is part of his style. But, there's usually some decent and even impressive content mixed in. This doesn't feel right. I've been kinda waiting to see if it's the Town Ghostlin we all love, once he gets caught up. It's been quite a while since replacing in, though.
This was Banakai's slot, so have to weigh that up as well.
What was your takeaway from the Banaki posts?
Of the players who only made a couple posts on day 1, he seemed more town to me. Lost Butterfly did some analysis of the n0 advertise/bid claims and came away thinking his claims were true given the evidence and also pro-town.
In post 2677, KingdomAces wrote:Yes, several people have already mentioned it, though I don't think anyone has stated any reasons except for the fact that I'm useless and behind in this game. I'm trying to fix that, but as I said earlier, it's a process.
Crazy thing is, everyone is a potential PR in this game, cause $$$$$. So the fact you are being useless is baffling as well as scummy.
Except for the fact that I gave up all my money, so I'm not actually a potential PR anymore. Also I'm still in the process of catching up. I'm fairly close to done at this point, so I should be getting less useless soon.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:15 pm
by Garuda
Cabd / ffery: I'm heading out to dinner so I'll be back in a couple of hours (just realized how little time there's left in this Day phase). Will you guys be around? Want your input on the stuff I'm gonna be posting.
Ghostly Penguin and Seanald are next.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:15 pm
by morph the cat
One or the other of us should be around.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 12:32 pm
by KingdomAces
PV, I just remembered that you were in MattP's Large Normal as well, so you should know that I'm completely useless even when I am caught up to the game.
Anyway, reading Nero now.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:42 pm
by KingdomAces
D1 Nero spent the entire time calling Hana scum for sheeping Nacho. I agree that she shouldn't have been doing that but it was pointed out several times by several people that it was completely null, yet he continued to press it. The other points (contradicting themselves, saying that Eagle is good enough to fake a townslip as scum.) were just as weak, since self-contradiction is only an indication that someone isn't sure of something, and... I just don't understand how the latter is scummy at all. D2, the entire day for him was arguing that Mhork didn't make him appear. Honestly, that entire thing was ridiculous, as well as completely null and I don't know why anyone let it continue as long as it did.
Doing D3 later. From the first two days though, it seemed like all he ever did was pressure people for doing things that were wrong, even though they weren't actually scummy. That's the easiest way to fake content as scum, and the fact that he hasn't really done all that much else on those days makes me lean scum on him. I'll finish this tomorrow.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:12 pm
by ProHawk
Too much scum-benefit in sheeping to be null.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:17 pm
by ProHawk
In post 671, Seanald wrote:Lol and this pathetic attempt to find a last minute easy lurker lynch isn't scummy? Are you kidding me here? There is plenty of information to settle on an informable valuable lynch rather than my useless ass. Now your just playing bad.
In post 2658, ProHawk wrote:Can't engage someone who won't engage. Already requested reads. Been denied. Moved to the next best option.
eh you can engage me, questions about things in the games, rather than general things like reads get me more responsive.
I was working on a full reads list honestly, then I realized I didn't really have a clue what my reads where and deleted it.
I had a crap ton of town reads and few scum ones, and a lot of null ones and by null I mean I want to say town, but i have paranoia that they arn't.
my big six town reads have remained the same, with still an inkling of paranoid about lost butterfly but I like his play too much to commit full on to a scum read.
honestly prohawk you were in the null pile, I never played with you and I've read so little of the game I can't remember anything you said lol.
Molla is town to me, and so Is Nero. Played enough with Nero to know he gets in situations like this all the time, and he is sounding much like his town self.
Lord Mhork is kinda scummy to me, mostly out of omgus, he also posted a brush off post on the deadline activation page.
So did Baldeagle. So I'm scum reading them off of that, cuz im positive scum posted on that page.
voided fits in that pile as well, for sounding like he is trying to hard, and for posting on deadline activation page.
^ my 3 scum reads. Don't think they are all right, but 1 definitely resides in that list.
Look at the tone difference in these two posts when attacked.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:03 pm
by morph the cat
What do you attribute the tone difference to?
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:10 pm
by ProHawk
I would normally attribute it to a change for survival, which in and of itself can come from both sides of the isle. But in this case its definitely got a scummy lean considering the rest of the content.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:23 pm
by pieguyn
In post 2612, morph the cat wrote:Prohawk- My townread on hawkie has flown south for the winter, because nothing he's doing makes sense right now. He seems disengaged, which doesn't really fit. (If he's scum, he's right hand given DP's inclusion in his townreads)
why couldn't DP put prohawk in his townreads if they were aligned?
Sakura has told me she always sheeps Nacho on D1. that makes this a Sakura tell, not a scum-tell.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:23 pm
by pieguyn
ugh, hardly anything recently has pinged for me. I don't think ProHawk v. Voided is town v town. it's mostly gut and I don't have a specific explanation, but something about that interaction feels terribly off.
was going to support the Voided wagon, see PV voted Seanald. ok that works too
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:30 pm
by ProHawk
Pie, thats fine, but I am saying there is literally no town-benefit to sheeping. Also, if me and Voided isn't town v town, why not get on the voided wagon to figure it out?
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:32 pm
by pieguyn
I don't want another 239847 page argument with Voided about pretty much nothing. I was going to vote Voided but I think a Seanald wagon would be good too, since he's hardly done anything and wagoning him might help us better determine alignment.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:50 pm
by ProHawk
Well, at least we are almost on the same page...
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:08 pm
by Seanald
In post 2719, pieguyn wrote:I don't want another 239847 page argument with Voided about pretty much nothing. I was going to vote Voided but I think a Seanald wagon would be good too, since he's hardly done anything and wagoning him might help us better determine alignment.
Ok so do you have anything specific you want to ask me? Since your wagoning me to better determine alignment and all.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:09 pm
by Seanald
Also no seriously has an opinion on how I can somehow use coroner to confirm mhork?
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:12 pm
by pieguyn
sure
In post 2403, pieguyn wrote:the people on the Nero wagon are kind of freaking me out
vote: Seanald
I feel most comfortable here atm. combination of others' meta arguments and some stuff from his ISO. overall, it seems like he's posting enough not to be seen as an outright lurker, but isn't really posting much real content. I saw at least 3 posts in his ISO that are just asking people to confirm stuff. it seems like he could be trying to make sure he doesn't get heat for screwing something up.
Spoiler: the at least 3 posts
In post 905, Seanald wrote:Are we advertising claiming for last night? Or still putting it together for N0?
Advo'd for market analyst last night and bid the fuck outta night kill, didn't win that though.
I addmittedly know next to nothing about Dr. pepper, but if he is the plan to increase our wages then so be it.
Also I hope everyone has read "The Plan"
That was the final draft of the plan correct?
In post 2336, Seanald wrote:Ok still here, been away for a bit with all the halloween stuff going on.
read most of the pages, are we still claiming the night actions stuff? cuz I did advertise the $5 on each, I was also a bit selfish and bid on something, then transfered the rest to 1 of the big six. Since I've been away, I don't feel like claiming everything outright specificly right now.
I'll look more into what's happened recently later
why so passive? ^ that includes lurking, lack of content, and what was quoted above.
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:15 pm
by Seanald
? I said ask me something. Your doing nothing to help your self further determine my alignment even though that's what you said your voting me for