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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:11 am
by the worst
In post 0, Gamma Emerald wrote:
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Earthbound Mafia: Giygas' Curse

Game designed and modded by Gamma Emerald
Back-up modded by RadiantCowbells
Reviewed by Jingle, Virtuoso, and others


Spoiler: Alive Players
alban marshy
Not_Mafia
Beefster
InfernoBrafin (James Brafin + Inferno390)
Mathdino
Momrangal
the worst

Spoiler: Dead Players
Iconeum,
Orange Kid, Town Backup JOAT
, was attacked with a psychic blast Night 1.
TheGoldenParadox,
Pokey, Town Non-Consecutive Target Hider
, fainted in fright Night 1.
acryon,
Catain Strong, Mafia Traitor One-Shot Gladiator
, taken into custody Day 2.
Almost50,
Mani Mani
, discovered and imprisoned Day 2.

Carrot and Stick,
Apple Kid, Town JOAT
, was driven mad Night 2.

BuJaber,
Everdred
, was locked up Day 3.

Kthxbye,
Jeff, Town Follower
, was killed* Night 3.

Spoiler: Modkilled Players
Don't make me put your name here.
Why are you insistent there's a strongman?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:12 am
by the worst
Sorry, clumsy.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:12 am
by Momrangal
And the idea is if we no lynch tonight, and I'm confirmed messenger I can't be the strongman?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:13 am
by Momrangal
There is a strongman or an RB somewhere in scum unless dino is lying. The only way beef can be the scum RB is if he's scum with me because he's confirmed to have blocked me and if he blocked me somehow, dino was still bypassed

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:15 am
by the worst
Fuck I think it literally has to be you and Beef or Math and Beef

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:18 am
by Momrangal
I don't think beef is scum

I don't think math is scum and, from my perspective everything fits with you being scum with N_M

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:22 am
by Momrangal
In post 2664, Mathdino wrote:Not_Mafia motion detects the worst
Beefster jails InfernoBrafin
Mathdino guards InfernoBrafin
Marangal messages InfernoBrafin
the worst holsters
I feel like going with this plan but I'm gonna target one of math and beef instead. If its a worst/NM team and worst is a strongman, then infbra is dead.

Also, saying that I target one or the other gives me a 50/50 chance of getting my message through AND conftown Infbra is still alive tomorrow

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:23 am
by the worst
I don't think Math is likely to be scum either.

I must have been right earlier. I think it's you/Beef.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:27 am
by the worst
Okay but by your own admission being messenger doesn't clear you of being strongman. And you're very very fixated on the existence of a strongman.

Assuming you/Beef scumteam Beef jails me to fuck with N_M's results. You kill whoever and send a message to InfBra.

Then tomorrow we learn..... N_M detected motion on me which confirms nothing.
We maybe confirm that you have a messenger ability but that does not actually prove anything.

We're just back in the same situation but with one less townie (probably Math or InfBra realistically)

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:33 am
by the worst
I don't think I've even accounted for the idea of a scum JoaT

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:29 pm
by Momrangal
Where did the scum joat idea come from?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:31 pm
by the worst
It kinda just popped into my head

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:34 pm
by Not_Mafia
He reached an epiphany via the morphogenetic field

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:49 pm
by the worst
Not_Mafia what are your thoughts here?

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:20 pm
by Beefster
In post 2521, Mathdino wrote:Day 1:
acryon gladiates Iconeum/Mathdino

Night 1:
Not_Mafia motion detects acryon: detects no motion
Beefster jails Momrangal
Mathdino guards Iconeum
Momrangal messages Carrot: fails
BuJaber visits whoever
the worst checks Iconeum
Kthxbye follows Almost50: no result
TheGoldenParadox hides behind Iconeum: dies
Carrot ?????? (cookies for anyone who can actually figure out Carrot's night action, because I suspect they rolecopped me)
InfernoBrafin, Iconeum, acryon, do nothing

Iconeum dies

Day 2:
InfernoBrafin uses double day

Night 2:
Not_Mafia motion detects Momrangal: detects no motion
Beefster jails Carrot
BuJaber visits Mathdino
the worst investigates InfernoBrafin: town
Kthxbye follows Not_Mafia: sees investigative action
Carrot roleblocks Beefster
InfernoBrafin, Mathdino, Momrangal, do nothing

Carrot dies

Day 3:
N/A

Night 3:
Not_Mafia motion detects Mathdino: detects no motion
the worst investigates Beefster: no result
Kthxbye follows Beefster: dies
Beefster, InfernoBrafin, Mathdino, Momrangal do nothing

Wait so why didn't Momrangal send a message last night?
Nothing I can come up with is consistent with these actions. I was entertaining the idea of a Math/Mom team that went something like this:

Mathdino is actually a even-night strongman odd-night roleblocker. Bodyguard is a very safe claim to make because it isn't terribly common. It was probably his designated fake claim.
Mom really is a messenger.

N1: A50 makes the kill
N2: Mathdino makes the kill. Nobody was investigating him or watching him. He simply waltzed in for the strongman kill.
N3: Momrangal makes the kill. It's why she didn't send a message. Since Math was occupied with blocking tw (which would have been caught by NM's motion detect), Mom had to make the kill.

This doesn't work because NM would have detected Mathblocking on N3.

NM could be scum depending on his timing of motion detection results. If it was always after the claimed action that works. He played off his N3 results as a joke.

NM could be our roleblocker.
VOTE: Not_Mafia

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:21 pm
by Mathdino
N_M is confirmed investigative...

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:22 pm
by Not_Mafia
Yeah I'm not scum and I still think there's something about the set-up we don't know

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:22 pm
by Not_Mafia
No explanation is sticking for a reason

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:26 pm
by Mathdino
INB4 UNANNOUNCED MULTIBALL

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:28 pm
by the worst
Oops misread my role pm I'm a cereal killer

Cheerios die next.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:15 pm
by Not_Mafia
@Mod VC please

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:29 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Votecount 4.0(2) Not_Mafia: Mathdino, Beefster
(1) Beefster: the worst

(3) Not Voting: Momrangal, Not_Mafia, InfernoBrafin
(expired on 2018-04-02 17:45:00)
With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Please let me know if your vote is in the wrong spot

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:32 pm
by InfernoBrafin
Inferno:


I have a game plan for the next night:
No lynch today. I think that's safest, considering we don't know if we're in MyLo or not.

then:
Beef blocks Math
TW checks Beef
Mom sends to IB
N_M targets Mom
Math hoslters
IB does nothing

I think that that makes is impossible for scum to do anything without us knowing about it. If anyone has any thoughts or comments, please speak now.

P-edit: Oh, and based on the last VC, TW/Mom is confirmed as not a team, because they would have already quickhammered for the win.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:39 pm
by Mathdino
In post 2722, InfernoBrafin wrote:Beef blocks Math
TW checks Beef
Mom sends to IB
N_M targets Mom
Math hoslters
IB does nothing

I think that that makes is impossible for scum to do anything without us knowing about it. If anyone has any thoughts or comments, please speak now.
1. Wtf does blocking me do? If I'm scum with Beef, I won't be blocked. If I'm scum with Marangal, the worst, or N_M, they just do the kill instead.

2. If Beef is scum, then TW dies (because he's a weak cop) and scum make a kill bringing us to 2:2.

3. Okay, but you're the obvious kill if we no lynch. So no one will get anything.

4. N_M will always get "motion detected" on Momrangal because YOU JUST TOLD HER TO DO SOMETHING.

5. Having the bodyguard holster, yep.

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:37 pm
by the worst
Is it possible to inno someone without my ability at this point?