Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:46 am
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:00 am
and it like JUST ended. wtf hopkirk?In post 2678, PenguinPower wrote:You were in that game...
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:03 am
so townIn post 2692, Kublai Khan wrote:Spent the last 3 hours sorting through isos and re-skimming Day 2. Here's where I'm currently standing.
Town pile
Ausuka
Hopkirk
Andriod19
Dunnstral
Golden Robster
texcat
PenguinPower
JarJarDrinks
Weaktown
Gamma Emerald
EspeciallyTheLies
Lalendra
Frozen Angel
Pine
Eh... pile
Scioness Sajj
ArcAngel9
Creature (Apparently has a famous meta where he's active as town and lurks as scum. He lurks. But replaces out, which someone (WhemeStar?) sold as being town, but is it?)
WhemeStar
Scum pile
Flavor Leaf
Vaxkiller
Myloninja13
Wavemode
I'm in the group that says that Flavor Leaf's mason buddy needs to claim. On the re-read it just feels like his town & scum read on me & JarJarDrinks keeps flipping depending on whoever is attacking him. There is something manipulative in his play and he's trying to hide it with smoke and mirrors. Like his explanation of his reaction to Golden Robster is all WIFOM. He's basically arguing that there's no excuse for scum to play/react badly. Well of course not. But we catch scum when they do play/react badly. Except when we get placated by WIFOM reasoning.
If his partner is in my town or weaktown list, then I'm happy with three solid town reads to help with POE.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:21 am
Sure there is. If he's scum, we force one of his buddies to commit to a mason claim today. They may be more hesitant to do it today because if one of them gets lynched/vigged/tracked/etc... then it leads right to the other player.In post 2696, Dunnstral wrote:There's no reason why we have to go after flavor leaf today
As we get closer to lylo, a scum buddy would be more likely to fakeclaim knowing that they only need 1 or 2 mislynches to win the game.
Forcing people to commit early means they are more likely to get caught. The more time that goes by, the easier it is for them to tell a lie to fit their narrative.
Terrible logic. I'm tired of explaining basic mafia principles to people.In post 2696, Dunnstral wrote:if he were lying we'd figure it out eventually and he wouldn't get away
The town is on a clock in mafia. They only have X amount of mislynches before they lose. Scum just needs to stall long enough to run out that clock. Everytime town mislynches they move closer to that clock running out.
So who cares is we "eventually" will figure it out? Scum doesnt need all their members to survive to endgame in order to win.
THERE IS ZERO BENEFIT TO NOT FORCING THE MASON CLAIM TODAY.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:24 am
Also dunn, u feel like giving reads or anything? Your contribution today has been severely lacking.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:09 am
UNVOTE:
I would like to hear from the mason partner this dayphase.
I would like to hear from the mason partner this dayphase.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:18 am
Uhh then why unvote?
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:49 am
Prodding Pine (2d 19h). He has (expired on 2018-07-12 09:49:40) to respond in-thread.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:19 am
I'd really like to hear an explanation to this.In post 2533, Andriod18 wrote:This would imply you scumread KK as my partner yes? Let's change thatIn post 2503, Lalendra wrote:Those are good points. I'm not sure what to make of the language and attitude in KK's posts - as you said, it is his town meta, but would be easy to fake - but the fact that KK ignored the Android wagon is very troubling to me.
As a matter of fact, I also would like to see more from Android.
VOTE: Andriod18
VOTE: Kublai Khan
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:22 am
VOTE: FL
I like KK based on his overall reads...mostly where I'm leaning. 2nd Mason should claim or FL should get lynched. If 2nd Mason claims, Mylo needs to go.
3 days left so you all on vanities need to actually do something productive with your vote.
I like KK based on his overall reads...mostly where I'm leaning. 2nd Mason should claim or FL should get lynched. If 2nd Mason claims, Mylo needs to go.
3 days left so you all on vanities need to actually do something productive with your vote.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:23 am
You need to vote.In post 2708, Scioness Sajj wrote:I'd really like to hear an explanation to this.In post 2533, Andriod18 wrote:This would imply you scumread KK as my partner yes? Let's change thatIn post 2503, Lalendra wrote:Those are good points. I'm not sure what to make of the language and attitude in KK's posts - as you said, it is his town meta, but would be easy to fake - but the fact that KK ignored the Android wagon is very troubling to me.
As a matter of fact, I also would like to see more from Android.
VOTE: Andriod18
VOTE: Kublai Khan
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:25 am
Got any reads? How about an opinion on the mason thing?In post 2708, Scioness Sajj wrote:I'd really like to hear an explanation to this.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:38 am
We’re lynching ON MY WAGON, if a fucking 2nd mason claims.
Like seriously, terrible play y’all doing this game.
Absolulely zero chance of lynching off my wagon. Like, obviously a second mason is claiming if I get pushed today. It’s literally fucking pointless.
It is blatant role fishing, and if you’re town who “needs a second mason to claim” that’s just bad. It’s a fucking mason claim. It’ll come out.
Like seriously, terrible play y’all doing this game.
Absolulely zero chance of lynching off my wagon. Like, obviously a second mason is claiming if I get pushed today. It’s literally fucking pointless.
It is blatant role fishing, and if you’re town who “needs a second mason to claim” that’s just bad. It’s a fucking mason claim. It’ll come out.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:42 am
If it was anyone else but you, I would agree.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:46 am
Mylo has specifically chosen PP because he knew PP wouldn't be able to defend themselves against opportunistic vote with no reasoning? Is that what you are saying here?In post 2548, Lalendra wrote:In post 2417, PenguinPower wrote:Responding to my prod. I'm busy tonight and tomorrow morning, but I'll be back tomorrow afternoon.He hadn't mentioned Mylo since his vote for him in 1947 - 470 posts earlier. Mylo dropped a vote there when asked for a vote and came up with some weak reasoning, didn't even really try to back it up. So, it looked like he was opportunistically throwing a vote on someone who had literally just said they wouldn't be around to defend themselves and using OMGUS and vague "I don't see any reason for them to be town so they must be scum" as an excuse.In post 2437, Myloninja13 wrote:I guess I could VOTE: PP because OMGUS and they haven't really done anything to town read them on.In post 2436, texcat wrote:Are you going to vote for anyone?
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:46 am
If second mason claims,
I will hard defend Mylo, because Mylo is obv town.
If a second mason claims, I’m coming after Penguin or Wheme.
Hell, I’m coming after them anyways.
VOTE: PenguinPower
You scum claimed in that last post. Coming from the KK wagon (which I have posted my doubts about in my mason thread), votes me and tries to out the other mason, and then says if a second mason claims, we go on Mylo.
We should never go Mylo specifically because of that.
There is zero town motivation in a second mason claiming and then just accepting it after that.
@Penguin - you say if it was anyone else, you’d agree, then why isn’t JJD and Lalendra scummy to you? Those aren’t the reasons they are doing it.
If my second mason claims, they essentially become tonight’s night kill.
I will hard defend Mylo, because Mylo is obv town.
If a second mason claims, I’m coming after Penguin or Wheme.
Hell, I’m coming after them anyways.
VOTE: PenguinPower
You scum claimed in that last post. Coming from the KK wagon (which I have posted my doubts about in my mason thread), votes me and tries to out the other mason, and then says if a second mason claims, we go on Mylo.
We should never go Mylo specifically because of that.
There is zero town motivation in a second mason claiming and then just accepting it after that.
@Penguin - you say if it was anyone else, you’d agree, then why isn’t JJD and Lalendra scummy to you? Those aren’t the reasons they are doing it.
If my second mason claims, they essentially become tonight’s night kill.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:47 am
Sigh. Flavor Leaf is not a mason. It seems unlikely that the game contains masons AND neighbors, possibly but unlikely. It's not possible that FL's first claim is his true role. Just go look at his meta. He makes many claims during a game and I don't think the first one has ever been true. I've never understood the motivation for doing this, but I don't think it necessarily means he's scum.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:47 am
In post 2710, PenguinPower wrote:You need to vote.
i'm on page 102, i'll get there eventuallyIn post 2711, JarJarDrinks wrote:Got any reads? How about an opinion on the mason thing?In post 2708, Scioness Sajj wrote:I'd really like to hear an explanation to this.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:50 am
In post 2715, Flavor Leaf wrote:If second mason claims,
I will hard defend Mylo, because Mylo is obv town.
If a second mason claims, I’m coming after Penguin or Wheme.
Hell, I’m coming after them anyways.
VOTE: PenguinPower
You scum claimed in that last post. Coming from the KK wagon (which I have posted my doubts about in my mason thread), votes me and tries to out the other mason, and then says if a second mason claims, we go on Mylo.
We should never go Mylo specifically because of that.
There is zero town motivation in a second mason claiming and then just accepting it after that.
@Penguin - you say if it was anyone else, you’d agree, then why isn’t JJD and Lalendra scummy to you? Those aren’t the reasons they are doing it.
If my second mason claims, they essentially become tonight’s night kill.
There was zero town motivation in you claiming Mason with 2 votes on you.
I said if it was anyone else but you making the Mason claim, I would say to leave you alone. But, you are very good at gambiting as scum, so I want some confirmation before I let me paranoid go.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:51 am
@KK - my mason partner is in your weak town/town pile.In post 2716, texcat wrote:Sigh. Flavor Leaf is not a mason. It seems unlikely that the game contains masons AND neighbors, possibly but unlikely. It's not possible that FL's first claim is his true role. Just go look at his meta. He makes many claims during a game and I don't think the first one has ever been true. I've never understood the motivation for doing this, but I don't think it necessarily means he's scum.
Like honestly, you guys aren’t fucking me over by doing this, you’re fucking over my partner.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:51 am
Didn’t mean to quote Texcat.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:52 am
I had Ausuka/JJD/Wheme/Lalendra/KK votes implied, and there were 3 on the time, and it was going to grow.
There’s also zero motivation as scum to claim mason there.
The reverse is just as true, if not more true than what you are saying
There’s also zero motivation as scum to claim mason there.
The reverse is just as true, if not more true than what you are saying
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:54 am
It’s already INCREDIBLY obvious who my partner is, look at the crumbs, look at the reactions, and move on.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:56 am
There is zero chance there isn’t at least 2 scum in
JJD, Golden Rob, PP, Lalendra, Wave, Wheme, and I will power lynch my way through after the mason claim comes through.
Hint, I will not be going after JJD or Wave.
JJD, Golden Rob, PP, Lalendra, Wave, Wheme, and I will power lynch my way through after the mason claim comes through.
Hint, I will not be going after JJD or Wave.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:58 am
First one’s been true a bunch of times. Sometimes I change it and he second or third ones aren’t true. But the first ones have been true a bunch of times.In post 2716, texcat wrote:Sigh. Flavor Leaf is not a mason. It seems unlikely that the game contains masons AND neighbors, possibly but unlikely. It's not possible that FL's first claim is his true role. Just go look at his meta. He makes many claims during a game and I don't think the first one has ever been true. I've never understood the motivation for doing this, but I don't think it necessarily means he's scum.
Also been through games with being the only one who hadn’t claimed.
I play every game in the moment. :shrug: it gets results.
Everytime you’ve been scum in a game with me Texcat, I caught you out.