Open 756: Hope Plus One (Day 5)

Shoshin · Post Post #2700 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:28 am

Do you really need me to cite the countless examples of scum doing this? And towns unnecessarily outing their cop?

Shoshin · Post Post #2701 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:28 am

Egix botched the claim because it makes no sense with his behaviors & reads.

Shoshin · Post Post #2702 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:29 am

Why didn't he check me or Titus last night? Why wasn't RC his top townread on D2? Why didn't he come into this day phase at least hinting about an innocent result on Emperor? C'mon, this claim is bullshit.

Titus · Post Post #2703 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:29 am

Gee, it's almost like everyone pushing for a Shosin lynch is town. Who woulda thunk it? I'll feel bad if I am the agency captured dumbass but I really don't think so.

Shoshin · Post Post #2704 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:29 am

I've actually been waiting for Egix to fake claim cop because I knew he would & I knew he couldn't be cop based on his behaviors/reads.

Shoshin · Post Post #2705 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:30 am

Creature, do not fall for this please. I beg you.

This is my last game on mafiascum in a long time. Please do me this favor of not falling for this today.

Shoshin · Post Post #2706 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:31 am

I guess worst-case scenario the real cop can out. But ideally they shouldn't.

Titus · Post Post #2707 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:31 am

Regardless of your alignment Shosin, I hope you do not leave.

Shoshin · Post Post #2708 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:33 am

In post 1950, Egix96 wrote:
In post 1942, Shoshin wrote:Why have you been scumreading me?
No offence intended, but have you been reading my posts? I thought I'd been explaining myself quite well but if not, I apologise.

All right then, if I'm wrong on you and you're actually town, then now's your chance to show it.

- Can you remember why you said "I'd feel tempted to self-vote in that case, RC." in post#36? Because I don't think that's a very towny attitude to have.

- You seem to ask the question "if you assume I'm town, who are the scum?" or some variation of it, often. What do you intend to achieve by asking it?

- P#798 - "I'm also sort of lazy this game because I have the backup of RC & NSG, so I feel less urgency about sorting alignments." Why those two players specifically?

- P#978 - "You're scum until you stop scumreading me." Can you remember why you said that?

- P#986 - "I don't have a solid read on either of RC or NSG." Then why were you using them as backup?

This is from looking through the first ~half of your ISO. That should be enough for the time being.

In post 1943, Shoshin wrote:What are your reads, Egix?
{NSG, Freezer}
{Cowbells, Fumuki}
{Eyes, Wormy}

Flippy - If I be honest I don't really have a read on him atm

{Creature}
{Titus slot, Shosh}

Cop with an innocent on RC doesn't make this list of reads ever.

Titus · Post Post #2709 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:38 am

Seen it. Made the same snap judgment Shosin but I've seen almost everything.

Shoshin · Post Post #2710 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:40 am

Alright, fine.

I claim cop with a guilty on Egix & Titus.

Please lynch them.

Shoshin · Post Post #2711 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:41 am

We can lynch Titus today if people are this scared of lynching cop claims.

Scum will kill me tonight.

Then you lynch Egix tomorrow.

Shoshin · Post Post #2712 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:42 am

Actually, Titus flipping scum should confirm me as town.

Creature · Post Post #2713 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:49 am

In post 2710, Shoshin wrote:Alright, fine.

I claim cop with a guilty on Egix & Titus.

Please lynch them.

was pretty obvious you would counterclaim here.

Creature · Post Post #2714 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:50 am

I think we lynch Titus and have the real cop get another result (or not).

Shoshin · Post Post #2715 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:51 am

Sure, can we get the votes for Titus?

Shoshin · Post Post #2716 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:54 am

Just in case you think I am fake claiming: in the numerous times I've fake claimed cop, my fake results have always been correct.

Eyes without a face · Post Post #2717 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:54 am

In post 2692, Shoshin wrote:Those are fake results, you can tell from his reads.

Elaborate (sorry, but I'm too lazy to go check)

Shoshin · Post Post #2718 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:55 am

I already did.

He says he got an innocent result on RC on N1 but lists RC as a second tier of townread (i.e. less towny than NSG/GIF).

He says he checked Emperor on N2 even though his top scumreads were me & Titus.

These are both implausible reads/behaviors for a cop.

Eyes without a face · Post Post #2719 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:57 am

In post 2696, Shoshin wrote:{NSG, Freezer}
{
Cowbells
, Fumuki}
{Eyes, Wormy}

Flippy - If I be honest I don't really have a read on him atm

{Creature}
{Titus slot, Shosh}

That IS pretty odd if you ask me. Why put a mod-confirmed slot as a second tier TR?

Shoshin · Post Post #2720 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:57 am

Egix is fake claiming, Eyes.

Shoshin · Post Post #2721 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:57 am

Scum always fake claim cop before going down in this setup. Always.

Shoshin · Post Post #2722 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 9:58 am

I've been expecting it all game, which is why I've been very sure to make everyone list their reads throughout the game.

Egix96 · Post Post #2723 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 10:00 am

In post 2710, Shoshin wrote:Alright, fine.

I claim cop with a guilty on Egix & Titus.

Please lynch them.

OH COME ON, THIS IS BS

IF YOU PEEKED TITUS RED WHY NOT OUT IMMEDIATELY?

Once she flips town you are dead meat.

Shoshin · Post Post #2724 (ISO) » Tue May 21, 2019 10:01 am

I'll also admit that I thought GIF was the cop yesterday which is part of why I townread him so strongly. The way he talked about Eyes suggested this very strongly. It turns out he was probably just trying to give cover to real cop, which was pretty nice on his end in retrospect. But the way Egix has given reads just isn't how a cop ever plays.