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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:24 am
by TheFuzzylogic99
phone posting, i have school... today. i hope to post around 3 or 4 pm.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:36 am
by Looker
I won't be able to hover around this thread, so this is my spread.

SCUM {TheFuzzylogic99 |
joges
Pine | bob3141 | SausasaurusRex | insomnia | Invisibility/Titus | Flavor Leaf } TOWN

It's more so just a snapshot for post-game.

@Espeonage: Your votecounts still say joges instead of Pine

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:45 am
by bob3141
In post 2699, Invisibility wrote:VOTE: fuzzy
scum on the wagon
So how many of the players on ank wagon are scum. Is it your view of the players or how teh wagon progressed. Since you say scum on wagon but you yourself voted for that wagon. If it is how the wagon progressed and not your fellow wagoniers. How did you read on ank conciliate with your read on those voting for her along side you. or if it is how wagon progressed was there any moment you doubted having your vote on her.


Although i do find ank lynch suspect as although there were legitimate reasons to scum leaner her from day one. During my enquiries she felt allot different from scum her. I pushed on why she would lynch gjt a claimed pr and her answers were quick and to the point. Whiel from my experince when she was scum trying to push back against a tracker/rolecop in a prior game. She put allot of effort into trying to discredit that claim rather than a simple and clear answes she had been giving as day two wore on.

And her answer to why she self voted teh first time made me feel confident enough to remove her from my scum reads. As she answered calmly and coherently while when she did teh self vote then. The intent she had then was to portray a townie flailing at being voted up. To make town think she was town.


Now although most wagons do have atleast one scum on them after reaching a certain size. Although this wagon was 6 in reality it was 5. As like schrodinger's cat anks vote had not yet got sealed in its box

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:07 am
by bob3141
Now we have the wagon we have 5 names with teh removal of ank

flavor leaf, gjt, invisibility, thefuzzylogic99, insomnia

now the question is not which one is scum. but is there scum on the wagon or not

Now the two leading wagons that day had been mine and anks. with few small suggestions else where. and since i know i am town, its clear to me at that point the game state wgaons were tvt. Unless scum feared the wagon shiftign to a 3rd player with that being on of them. I cant see any major necessity for scum to push hard as between me ank they would of hit town any way. With the easy potential to simply get the other the next day after one was lynched. getting them to l-1

So the question is how sure can we be that scum are on the wagon. Now its likely but there is also the potential that scum simply waited for us to lynch one of our own. I could easily see neither of the remaining scum being on the wagon. Although my remaning scum reads were on it yet also my nulls were off it. along with a few

Now teh question is both who had no reason to be on it aswell as who has no reason to have been off it.

back in gordan rams game. When no scum had been threated one of each scum had been pushign there respective wagons. all the while town reading the opposite wagon. Even appearing to try and convince each other of the merits of teh wagon.

So could we have had a situation were we had scum scum read ank but not join while the other one sat on my wagon.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:10 am
by bob3141
Now of those voting for ank i cant see flav being scum as when ank wagon collapsed and mine grew he pushed ank hard. If he was scum i would have expected him to let mine go through and then push ank the next day. Maybe claim town read on me but not push so hard for teh lynch to be ank rather than me

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:11 am
by bob3141
that leaves 4 of which one is dead.

leaving

Fuzzy, insomnia and invis


while off the wagon was

dp, looker, pine and rex

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:21 am
by skitter30
In post 2701, Looker wrote:@Espeonage: Your votecounts still say joges instead of Pine
I actually fixed this already

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:29 am
by TheFuzzylogic99
green
= conf town
red
=conf town
blue
= likely town


Vote 1.9
gjt
(2): looker, joges
looker (2):
nomnonom
,
nicholai

SausasaurusRex (1): kanna
ankamius
(1):
flavor leaf

nicholai
(1):
thefuzzylogic

nomnomnom
(1):
gjt

invisibility (1): non imh
non imh (1): bob3141
not voting (3) : SausasaurusRex,
ankamius
, invisibility

Vote1.10
gjt
(4): joges,
nomnomnom
, invisibility, kanna
nomnomnom
(4):
gjt
, looker,
flavor leaf
,
nicholai

invisibility (1): non imh
non imh (1): bob3141
flavor leaf (1):
ankamius

not voting (2) : SausasaurusRex,
thefuzzylogic


1.11
gjt
(5): joges,
mislynch bait,
invisibility, kanna,
ankamius

Mislynch Bait
(5):
gjt
, looker,
flavor leaf
,
nicholai,
SausasaurusRex
invisibility (1): non imh
non imh (1): bob3141
not voting (1) : thefuzzylogic

1.12
Mislynch Bait (5)
:
flavor leaf, nicholai,
SausasaurusRex, invisibility, kanna
gjt
(3): joges,
ankamius
, looker
invisibility (1): non imh
non imh (1): bob3141
nicholai (1):
mislynch bait

not voting (2) :
thefuzzylogic, gjt

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:55 am
by TheFuzzylogic99
Vote 1.10 and 1.11 shows that the Nom wagon was a strong town push. I am not sure about looker bc of their jump from Nom to Gjt ..... however, they stayed on Nom for a bit so it makes me think maybe town more than maybe scum

I dont like that Ank self voted but it is what it is.......

looking at Sal/Nom/Mislych voting day 1 they all voted conf town except for looker who is still unknown. If the pattern is steady then looker is prob town,

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:58 am
by TheFuzzylogic99
Right now I am leaning either toward a Vizzy or Kanna vote


Looker and Vizzy
ok.... why am i scum?

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:59 am
by TheFuzzylogic99
Correction= red is conf scum not town

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:30 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 2708, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Vote 1.10 and 1.11 shows that the Nom wagon was a strong town push. I am not sure about looker bc of their jump from Nom to Gjt ..... however, they stayed on Nom for a bit so it makes me think maybe town more than maybe scum

I dont like that Ank self voted but it is what it is.......

looking at Sal/Nom/Mislych voting day 1 they all voted conf town except for looker who is still unknown. If the pattern is steady then looker is prob town,
What do you mean?

Nom also voted Invisibility. I actually don’t believe they did vote in all conf town.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:32 pm
by Flavor Leaf
VCA says one of of Joges, invis, Kanna is scum.

And then one of the people on the Mislynch Bait wagon is probably bussing, but I’m not totally against the idea of it being all town and that point when Rex joins.

Looker moving off of the Mislynch Bait onto the Gjt wagon when they did is kind of scummy

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:33 pm
by Flavor Leaf
I feel like one of Looker/Invisibilitt has scum for sure

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:45 pm
by TheFuzzylogic99
@ FL
I trippleed check to see if I was wrong .... Nom nor that slot voted Invisible.......

They voted
Nich Wimpy. Gjt and Looker

Not sure if it is just odd or scummy...... I should back and reread Lookers ISO

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:57 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Nom did vote Invisibility. That was one of my first reasonings first pairing Invisibility/Nomnom together

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:58 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1047, nomnomnom wrote:I wonder how FL would react if my vote went on Invis right now
Damn, Mandela!!!!

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 1:58 pm
by Flavor Leaf
You’re right

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:03 pm
by TheFuzzylogic99
yeah , looks like Nom acted like they were considering voting Vizzy but didn't,

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:05 pm
by TheFuzzylogic99
might be a soft busss..... Nom kissing up to you or both.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:05 pm
by Titus
In post 2712, Flavor Leaf wrote:VCA says one of of Joges, invis, Kanna is scum.

And then one of the people on the Mislynch Bait wagon is probably bussing, but I’m not totally against the idea of it being all town and that point when Rex joins.
Can you explain the first?

My quick VC skim had S Rex as scum.

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:11 pm
by TheFuzzylogic99
@ Titus
Good to see you again.
what exactly about that vote slot makes you think Rex is scum?

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:13 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 2720, Titus wrote:
In post 2712, Flavor Leaf wrote:VCA says one of of Joges, invis, Kanna is scum.

And then one of the people on the Mislynch Bait wagon is probably bussing, but I’m not totally against the idea of it being all town and that point when Rex joins.
Can you explain the first?

My quick VC skim had S Rex as scum.

They’re the unknowns on the wagon. Rex has been genuine, and I feel when they hopped on Nomnom, it ended up being the last pebble to cause the momentum to slide in that direction.

I don’t think Nomnom got hard bussed

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:13 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Just a softie

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:49 pm
by Looker
In post 1062, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1005, Flavor Leaf wrote:Looker
Nicholai
Fuzzy
Rex

Non
Joges
Bob
Gjt

Invisibility
Kanna
Ankamius

Nomnom

My way too early prediction is actually Nomnom/Ankamius/Kanna, with Kanna being able to be replaced with one my Tier 3’s or Invisibility.

Ankamius is chainsawing me and avoiding questions, and I actually think I can bring her down a tier in between Nom and the others.

Wimpy was scum.
In post 2253, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2130, Detective Pikachu wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 1076, Looker wrote:That looked like a popped gambit
In post 1077, nomnomnom wrote:Honestly if you can't get the sarcasm from these two posts in quick succession I don't know what to tell you.
In post 1078, nomnomnom wrote:My gambits are big, bold, completely insane and not half-assed and my history proves that. If you really think I gambit over telling people what my role is you clearly have no clue about what my scum game looks like.
In post 1079, Looker wrote:Yeah I guess I don't and you "don't know what to tell" me right?
In post 1081, nomnomnom wrote:You want scum games of mine to read? To see if it looks like anything here? There's a reason why Ank townreads me here. Just saying.
In post 1082, nomnomnom wrote:I hope this saga of joining/replacing in games and getting scumread for absolutely insane reasons stops soon because honestly I'm getting tired of it.
In post 1084, Looker wrote:"Insane" is subjective - maybe it's your personality? Maybe you should quit? Maybe this is sarcasm?
In post 1085, nomnomnom wrote:You don't need to make it personal on top of that...
In post 1086, Looker wrote:I don't know what to tell you.
In post 1087, nomnomnom wrote:I really want to say stuff I might regret but I'll abstain. Making things personal like that... jesus christ I don't even want to play this game.
In post 1088, Looker wrote:
In post 1084, Looker wrote:Maybe you should quit?
B


I'm pretty sure I never second guess my looker townread this game

Yeah, I remembered this after I said my last thing. Looker’s probably town.
In post 2267, Flavor Leaf wrote:Although Insomnia’s obv scum too.

Bob is obvtown.

Looker’s probably town.

Rex is obvtown.

DP’s getting vigged.

Invisibility could be scum but i think they’re genuine.

Pine is a lean town.
In post 2712, Flavor Leaf wrote:VCA says one of of Joges, invis, Kanna is scum.

And then one of the people on the Mislynch Bait wagon is probably bussing, but I’m not totally against the idea of it being all town and that point when Rex joins.

Looker moving off of the Mislynch Bait onto the Gjt wagon when they did is kind of scummy
In post 2713, Flavor Leaf wrote:I feel like one of Looker/Invisibilitt has scum for sure
Are you making reads based off what's convenient for you at the time? Do you expect to be held accountable to them? If I suspected both Gjt and nomnom (for stated reasons), then why would I not vote a Gjt who was backpedaling from a potential bus? Just curious.