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In post 2692, BBmolla wrote:

In post 2562, Trojan Horses wrote:Elmo Teh Azn, Ellitell

what does this mean?

In post 326, northsidegal wrote:{nsg}
{gobble}
{bbmolla}
{mastina, amrun, wonderwall, ddl}
{jjh, elmo}

In post 2688, gobbledygook wrote:

In post 2685, BBmolla wrote:I cannot believe the mastina lynch isn't happening

her reads are straight up from a different game

What is she at?

In post 2651, mastina wrote:I have scumreads on Amrun/farside, nsg, and Wonderwall

In post 2701, Trojan Horses wrote:I'm against ending the day till NSG can form a few more reads and says it's OK to end the day.

In post 2700, Trojan Horses wrote:

In post 2692, BBmolla wrote:

In post 2562, Trojan Horses wrote:Elmo Teh Azn, Ellitell

what does this mean?

Cross game activity tell

In post 2705, We are not helping wrote:U can fuck off with that. We are ending day as soon as possible.

In post 2706, BBmolla wrote:Sorry can you elaborate? What does it mean? Town/Scum?

In post 2706, BBmolla wrote:

In post 2700, Trojan Horses wrote:

In post 2692, BBmolla wrote:

In post 2562, Trojan Horses wrote:Elmo Teh Azn, Ellitell

what does this mean?

Cross game activity tell

Sorry can you elaborate? What does it mean? Town/Scum?

I've never heard of it is it a tell Ellibereth made

In post 2662, gobbledygook wrote:

In post 2656, RadiantCowbells wrote:Why not... vote her

Because that will cause an explosion of posts and I don’t think that’s good for the game right now

In post 2699, RadiantCowbells wrote:Cakez is on Vecna with me I thought.

In post 2707, Trojan Horses wrote:

In post 2705, We are not helping wrote:U can fuck off with that. We are ending day as soon as possible.

And gain what from it?

In post 2709, northsidegal wrote:

In post 2706, BBmolla wrote:

In post 2700, Trojan Horses wrote:

In post 2692, BBmolla wrote:

In post 2562, Trojan Horses wrote:Elmo Teh Azn, Ellitell

what does this mean?

Cross game activity tell

Sorry can you elaborate? What does it mean? Town/Scum?

I've never heard of it is it a tell Ellibereth made

the idea is that if someone is playing in another game while ignoring this game, they are scum in this game. it was what people were saying about me a while back, and it could be said about elmo at the moment.

In post 2475, RadiantCowbells wrote:Mastina can't still be calling NSG scum or she needs to die.

In post 2501, Trojan Horses wrote:

In post 2500, farside wrote:I actually caught that from my read as well. I noted and asked her about her reads not changing.

Which reads of hers do you think should have changed?

In post 2534, mastina wrote:

In post 2117, farside wrote:Curious why mastina voted wonderwall over nsg.

Because I only have one vote for three scumreads in my game and I can't vote for a scumread in the other game.

I can apply pressure to multiple slots at once, including yours (nothing you've done has struck me as town and quite the opposite this feels like lurkser-scum-farside rather than the hyperposting town farside that I remember).

I can only vote one at a time.

A lack of a vote doesn't mean a lack of a scumread, it just means that I can't vote all of my scumreads.

In post 2587, northsidegal wrote:i think baezu is town

In post 2591, mastina wrote:

In post 2164, farside wrote:If mastina thinks RC is scum why is she not pushing on that read of a player that is actiive and can be engaged with over a player that isi mostly MIA?'

Because...

In post 55, mastina wrote:

In post 52, RadiantCowbells wrote:I don't believe you. But say what you want.

I think your play this game is more likely to come from you as scum than town, and yet it should be stupidly obvious why pushing you in spite of having that belief would be a waste of time. (Namely because if you're town you're dead via nightkill before D3, and also because if you're town you'll give me something that I'll read as town eventually. Plus, would add a lot of noise which is something that I don't see any way of it not being disastrous for the gamestate's health.)

In post 1177, mastina wrote:

In post 737, gobbledygook wrote:I do agree with the statement that if Mastina is scum vs an NSG AND RC town team her MO has to be to corral people who support her and shade RC/NSG in order to have any chance.

There is value to be had in paragons being alive, if they are town--but they wouldn't be paragons if they were rattled, if they were shaken, by an incorrect scumread on their slot. They wouldn't be paragons if someone incorrectly scumreading them threw them off their beat, threw them off their kilter, kept them from putting in a paragon-level performance.

And there is value to be had in paragons being alive, if they are town--but if they

aren't

town, then why the fuck would I fear pushing scum just off of the value of "what if they're town", given the above? Given that being erroneously scumread shouldn't rattle, shouldn't shake, a paragon winner, there's no reason not to state a scumread on one.

Granted, I have reasonably good reasons to not push the read on RC. He's not in my game so I can't even vote him; there's enough scumspects in his game that given only two of them are scum there's a fair chance that he is town; fighting with RC on D1 is unproductive because even if he is scum he's not getting lynched D1; if RC is town then the scum will nightkill him eventually anyway. All these make it so that I don't really have interest in pushing RC, but that sure as fuck won't stop me from stating a scumread there.

In post 2534, mastina wrote:

In post 2117, farside wrote:Curious why mastina voted wonderwall over nsg.

Because I only have one vote for three scumreads in my game and I can't vote for a scumread in the other game.

I can apply pressure to multiple slots at once.

I can only vote one at a time.

A lack of a vote doesn't mean a lack of a scumread, it just means that I can't vote all of my scumreads.

^Of this.
Between those three quotes, you should have sufficient enough of an answer.

In post 2621, mastina wrote:

In post 2302, farside wrote:Mastina https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11715110 Don't your reads change as the game goes on?

My reads change when they have reason to change--and you can look at this game and

see

my reads

have

changed.
I have changed my reads on Trojan Horses, sorta-jjh (where I really really really

really

don't

want

to change the read, where I really fucking want to trust my original past-me's assessment but it is increasingly hard for me to do so), sorta-your slot where I've gone back and forth on it being town and scum,

technically

Shuichi (not really, but strictly speaking was listed as a townread originally before Ceph posted), Lie Ren, Vecna, and adjusted reads on both Baezu and SirCakez.

My reads change when they have good fucking reason to change.
The players not listed above? We Are Not Helping, RC, Turkey, nsg, Molla, Wonderwall? (Not listed, Elmo or NM/DDL who this doesn't apply to.) They've got DAMN fucking good reasons to have stayed as scum/townreads. (Elmo and NM/DDL? Not so much, I admit that, but like. They're massive piles of mostly null so why not keep the read in a game which feels like it can be solved by poe.)

In post 2302, farside wrote:And why is RC a scum read at that point?

Because everything RadiantCowbells has done this game has been furthering a scum agenda and been incredibly manipulative with zero genuine thoughts, no real scumhunting, no true passion, involved. The closest he's gotten is, after realizing that trying to repeatedly discredit me won't work to dissuade me, his OMGUS push on me.

In post 2627, SirCakez wrote:

In post 2610, Trojan Horses wrote:

In post 2583, SirCakez wrote:I've given up on trying to engage mastina btw

Is that the only reason you're trying to get Vecna lynched right now?
Can you scum case him?

No I've been SRing him for a while you know that...I just wasn't aware a wagon had reformed.
I don't like to make cases; I feel my reasons for SRing him have been made clear.

P-edit: that meta is really old. Farside has admitted she is not playing the same way anymore no?

In post 2712, We are not helping wrote:me not going v/la from the remainder of the game!

what a nice present of having me here. amirite or wut

In post 2718, northsidegal wrote:RC, you don't want to wait for GIF to get a chance to post?

In post 2720, Trojan Horses wrote:

In post 2712, We are not helping wrote:me not going v/la from the remainder of the game!

what a nice present of having me here. amirite or wut

So what would change for you when Vecna flips, that you wouldnt go VLA?