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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:30 am
by Mizzytastic
In post 2699, chkflip wrote:So, what's up, guys?

Anybody diving into the cess pool that is N_M's ISO because it breaks on my phone halfway through the song from Shrek. I can still barely load the page that post is on.

I guess I'll start VCA'ing without Titus.
I didn't realise that was enough to break phones. I'm busy right now but I'll go back and put spoilers on it.


@Not_Mafia
: This is a second warning about posts that impact the readability of the game.

-- edited for modding error on my part, I'm sorry --

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:43 am
by Mizzytastic
I messed up. I'm hoping it won't impact the game too much. Some player posts discussing it were deleted with their permission. Please try not to talk about it more.

Again, I'm sorry

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:47 am
by BBmolla
Hey all can we stop engaging NM? He's scum trolling. Thanks.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:49 am
by Binatog13
You know, we must find mafia this day, and I've suspecting NM for fake claiming.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:20 pm
by Binatog13
In post 2610, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 2597, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm actually an Odd Night Loyal Checker, my action on Norfolk last night failed
I'm town, someone interfered with my result
How many times will you fake claim a PR? First neighborizer. Then tracker. Now checker? (Idk if that role really exists).
Suspicious. Very sus.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:22 pm
by Not_Mafia
I had very good reasons

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:23 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 2699, chkflip wrote:So, what's up, guys?

Anybody diving into the cess pool that is N_M's ISO because it breaks on my phone halfway through the song from Shrek. I can still barely load the page that post is on.

I guess I'll start VCA'ing without Titus.
My ISO is heaven itself

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:34 pm
by Rannygazoo
In post 2697, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm town, does anyone have any credible counterarguments to my reasons for my claims?
Are you asking for ccs to your 3 claims?

Can someone explain what a loyalty checker or whatever is? I don’t have time to look it up.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:45 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 2707, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 2697, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm town, does anyone have any credible counterarguments to my reasons for my claims?
Are you asking for ccs to your 3 claims?

Can someone explain what a loyalty checker or whatever is? I don’t have time to look it up.
No I'm asking if anyone can dispute the town motivation behind how I claimed

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Checker

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:55 pm
by Rannygazoo
Of course there’s scum motivation for how you claimed. Scum!you was hoping to dodge an elim or two by being confusing. (It worked day 1.)

So why do you think your check failed?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:02 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Actually he is claiming he didn't get a guilty, but just pretended he did for reactions. And then assumed Norfolk was scum after they didn't claim.
Either way, it's pretty much bullshit.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:05 pm
by Not_Mafia
Why is it bullshit, you were the one who was the most gung ho against Norfolk after he refused to claim and lied about "doctor noises"

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:14 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2711, Not_Mafia wrote:Why is it bullshit, you were the one who was the most gung ho against Norfolk after he refused to claim and lied about "doctor noises"
Don't try to bring this on me, this entire situation was caused by you faking your claim which you shouldn't have done in the first place if you're town.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:20 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
@N_M
If you're saying the truth and lied about your role in this manner just because you thought NB was scum but having no mechanical reason to believe so i will probably try to avoid you in all possible games in the future for such awful trash play.

I know i'm being hypocritical by engaging N_M after saying it's pointless. You know the line, do as they say not as they do.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:22 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 2709, Rannygazoo wrote:Of course there’s scum motivation for how you claimed. Scum!you was hoping to dodge an elim or two by being confusing. (It worked day 1.)

So why do you think your check failed?
Scum interference obviously, considering you outted my tracker soft

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:24 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 2713, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@N_M
If you're saying the truth and lied about your role in this manner just because you thought NB was scum but having no mechanical reason to believe so i will probably try to avoid you in all possible games in the future for such awful trash play.

I know i'm being hypocritical by engaging N_M after saying it's pointless. You know the line, do as they say not as they do.
I did have a mechanical reason to believe so, I had a failed loyal check on him thanks to Yakety Sax

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:25 pm
by quiet
Still on phone to end of day.

Is there anything valuable we can get out of today? I want to assess the NM wagon from day 1 and how it stalled/related to the mini wagon, which we have a confirmed town on. That seems useful. I think there are others (chckflp, Titus apparently) that can do that analysis better than me. Has anyone else reviewed that wagon? Thoughts?

Personally I think NMs iso is likely way less useful than...well, basically anything else. But do let me know if you find any gems in there.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:26 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 2715, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 2713, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@N_M
If you're saying the truth and lied about your role in this manner just because you thought NB was scum but having no mechanical reason to believe so i will probably try to avoid you in all possible games in the future for such awful trash play.

I know i'm being hypocritical by engaging N_M after saying it's pointless. You know the line, do as they say not as they do.
I did have a mechanical reason to believe so, I had a failed loyal check on him thanks to Yakety Sax
I don't even know what role you're claiming, the only reason i'm voting you is because you lied and we flipped town.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:26 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 2627, Not_Mafia wrote:There was logic to my claim, I claimed a similar role (as in, it fails on scum) but even night so I wouldn't be interfered with on odd nights. I got a potential guilty, so I claimed tracker as a reaction test and then Norfolk refused to claim, everyone as end of day yesterday was saying he was obvscum due to his reaction.

If I get eliminated today, this ones on Norfolk and you guys for not giving me one more night to get a result
Can anyone tell me how any of this is wrong aside from "LuL yOu FaKeClAiMeD", if Norfolk was scum this would have been a great gambit

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:26 pm
by quiet
In post 2714, Not_Mafia wrote:Scum interference obviously, considering you outted my tracker soft
I’m sorry.

Was what you did soft in any way? Is there any world where scum doesn’t notice it? You italicized each letter.

In my opinion, you hardclaimed two roles on day1.

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:27 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 2717, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2715, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 2713, NorwegianboyEE wrote:@N_M
If you're saying the truth and lied about your role in this manner just because you thought NB was scum but having no mechanical reason to believe so i will probably try to avoid you in all possible games in the future for such awful trash play.

I know i'm being hypocritical by engaging N_M after saying it's pointless. You know the line, do as they say not as they do.
I did have a mechanical reason to believe so, I had a failed loyal check on him thanks to Yakety Sax
I don't even know what role you're claiming, the only reason i'm voting you is because you lied and we flipped town.
Odd Night Loyal Checker, maybe you should read beyond just Norfolk's flip, this play makes far more sense for me as town than as scum, I'm actually pretty obvtown from this

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:28 pm
by Not_Mafia
In post 2719, quiet wrote:
In post 2714, Not_Mafia wrote:Scum interference obviously, considering you outted my tracker soft
I’m sorry.

Was what you did soft in any way? Is there any world where scum doesn’t notice it? You italicized each letter.

In my opinion, you hardclaimed two roles on day1.
Multiple people admitted to not noticing it

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:29 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
And if you "got interfered" with, why would keeping you alive for one more night not just entice scum to interfere again?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:30 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Since i'm assuming that's the story you're going with?

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:31 pm
by Not_Mafia
Maybe they're X-shot and already used their shot(s)