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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:50 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 2696, RLotus wrote:The third is DGB or dunn then
If it’s Dunn I’m going to really have a laugh. It’s plausible. I mean VPB could have been right and then Datisi is just trying to cover themselves by agreeing there without pushing too hard for it.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:51 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 2696, RLotus wrote:The third is DGB or dunn then
You just said it wasn't likely to be me a few hours ago.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:53 pm
by RLotus
In post 2701, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2696, RLotus wrote:The third is DGB or dunn then
You just said it wasn't likely to be me a few hours ago.
Well it's not maxwell so

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:53 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 2702, RLotus wrote:
In post 2701, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2696, RLotus wrote:The third is DGB or dunn then
You just said it wasn't likely to be me a few hours ago.
Well it's not maxwell so
Yeah maxwell doesn’t clear Green Crayons there that’s correct.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:56 pm
by maxwell
To be clear, I'm literally only confirming his role, and nothing else. If there's no other PR claims, he's definitely town, if there's one other, his alignment is completely up in the air to me.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:57 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 2704, maxwell wrote:To be clear, I'm literally only confirming his role, and nothing else. If there's no other PR claims, he's definitely town, if there's one other, his alignment is completely up in the air to me.
No I get it. But just look at the choice. I’m sorry to keep focusing on this, but there’s like no way a Scum Team with a Neighborizer given the ending of yesterday decides that Momrangal makes sense as the pick hahaha like I’m going to attach a 0.1% chance to that.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:59 pm
by Andresvmb
I mean I don’t know. At least I don’t see it. I haven’t been great except at spotting the Town amongst the bad pushes so I could be wrong there too. Frankly I think we should leave the PR claims alone for now and focus on the rest anyway.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:05 pm
by Andresvmb
Also given the options that Datisi proposed, it seems heavily tilted at forcing a choice of VPB.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:06 pm
by Andresvmb
DGB loudly said yesterday that this would be their last mafia game in a while, didn’t want to read, and supported being eliminated from the game. And Momrangal had a horrific end of D2. Those are terrible choices to bounce ideas off of.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:08 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 2409, DrippingGoofball wrote:This is going to be my last mafia game for a long, long time.

I am completely down on the game and demotivated. I'm just going to mindlessly vote. My scumdar is kaput, I fuck up all my PRs and get yeeted or vig'ed after playing a single game day. It's like no one can read me anymore, and I can't read anyone either.

If you want to yeet me go ahead. I'll self-vote to help it along.
Here.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:09 pm
by Andresvmb
Given those choices, I never would have picked DGB or Momrangal. So it seems manufactured to provide Green Crayons with some bad choices or the player Datisi is continuously attaching themselves to.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:14 pm
by VP Baltar
If it had been me, amdres' head would have exploded

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:16 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 2711, VP Baltar wrote:If it had been me, amdres' head would have exploded
Hahaha this is true.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:17 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 2712, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 2711, VP Baltar wrote:If it had been me, amdres' head would have exploded
Hahaha this is true.
And I think in part that’s probably what Datisi thought would happen. That I would rail against Green Crayons for the choice and create more conflict.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:20 pm
by Dunnstral
So this was all 200 iq manipulation by datisi

But little did they know, Andres is 300 iq

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:20 pm
by Dunnstral
(I'm not actually sure if it's datisi but if GC is town then that becomes more likely with the way they were tag team pushing me from their hood yesterday)

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:28 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 2557, Momrangal wrote:VOTE: andres
In post 2563, Momrangal wrote:I would rather go after actual scum reads but I have zero qualms.

Why are we rushing? When's deadline?

Also dbg is town which is fantastic
In post 2568, Momrangal wrote:Her entrance.

Dbg has an agenda while scum and it gets pretty obvious pretty quickly

VOTE: midway
Andre's is the most difficult to really explain at the moment but alot of it has to do the with the way he is pushing slots, and how he is making his reads. I find it extremely unlikely that you claim neighborized the way you did. As a scum neighbor, what is generally the bigger priority is to pocket the said neighbors. I feel like, if you were going to pocket green, you would have claimed to be neighborized sooner way before he was pressured to out who he neighborized.

Dunn is also largely tone. The pushes on him are also pretty shitty and, as scum I think there would be far more resistance to his push and it really isn't there. Dunn is someone who is easy to eliminate as town because of his personality. I really liked the way he knocked he down a peg without discrediting me. The sarcasm he presents in his posts and the way he approaches the game all ring genuine. He isn't pushing anyone in bad faith, his points and arguments are solid, valid and all looks like they are coming from a town perspective
Just look at this sequence.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:33 pm
by RLotus
Or Datisi just chose VPB who he was buddied with and his two partners, so it is good in any scenario. Can't really fault GC for that.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:34 pm
by Momrangal
From what I can glean

Vpb was considered. Andres never was. Why do you think you were the obv choice?

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:22 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 2718, Momrangal wrote:From what I can glean

Vpb was considered. Andres never was. Why do you think you were the obv choice?
I believe I should have been considered. The fact that DGB and you were considered before me is nonsensical. After a certain point, it becomes harder to deny that maybe I’m not just constantly defending Town to White Knight players but I’m actually just Town bumbling along doing the best I can.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:23 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 2717, RLotus wrote:Or Datisi just chose VPB who he was buddied with and his two partners, so it is good in any scenario. Can't really fault GC for that.
Datisi is smarter than this. They wouldn’t pick their two partners as the choice. And I generally TR the Elements/DGB slot.

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:42 am
by VP Baltar
In post 2720, Andresvmb wrote:And I generally TR the Elements/DGB slot.
I kind of flip flopped on elements a bit, and felt scum there for awhile. I have no clue on DGB. What are you seeing there?

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:44 am
by VP Baltar
In post 2657, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 2651, Momrangal wrote:Other neighbor checking in
Interesting choice.

What's your take on the neighborhood momrangal?
Mom^

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:45 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 2685, Andresvmb wrote:Okay well Green Crayons is confirmed Town. The pick is so bad, it has to be Town. We can move on.
Scum neighborizet exist but what do I know.

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:48 am
by VP Baltar
Hi DGB! You want to chat today? I'd be interested in some of your takes.