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Post Post #2700 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:25 am

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tft is vastly different from real league :> it’s an 8 player ffa autochess/strategy game and not a moba
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Post Post #2701 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:25 am

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i slap down pooky in it on the regular :>>>
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Post Post #2702 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:26 am

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Ooh like either A) Get these cool roles to assign (simulate drafting heroes)
Or B) Get all these cool factionals that you lose one when a mafia dies.

Sorry I have to work now but Math brain got detoured
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Post Post #2703 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:27 am

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In post 2701, Ydrasse wrote:i slap down pooky in it on the regular :>>>
Yay

I think Titus does both :)

They just all seem similar to me

Tons of people screaming lol.

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Post Post #2704 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:33 am

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if i had the energy for it i would definitely have liked to make something more like the game w pooky that was like
building teams and traits and synergy but it’s super hard to 1:1 that to a mafia game
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Post Post #2705 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:36 am

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What next?

Minecraft Theme Game?
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Post Post #2706 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:41 am

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ugh toctak ur so luxky the gods loved u

i tried to visit u the first night but they were like oH i wOnT aCcEpT iT cUz iTs aFtEr dEaDlInE
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Post Post #2707 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:42 am

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i loved killing eberyone!! it was a whole ass another day another slay moment

i carried ngl
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Post Post #2708 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:45 am

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players choice either a warrior cats game or world of warcraft game
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Post Post #2709 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:50 am

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In post 2706, marcistar wrote:ugh toctak ur so luxky the gods loved u

i tried to visit u the first night but they were like oH i wOnT aCcEpT iT cUz iTs aFtEr dEaDlInE
i was in jade hood anyways.
tho it's still a bit unclear if that blocks kills or not.
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Post Post #2710 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:52 am

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o and that was the night fred shot me w 0.2 damage, so u would have healed me.
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Post Post #2711 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:10 am

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wtf i thought the gods favored u but looks like they actually love me more

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another w for the big booty thicc bitches :oops:
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Post Post #2712 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:10 am

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In post 2672, Ydrasse wrote:which the mafia team used rather smartly

tictac was accelerating the night kill to the day and enchant was doubling the kill so that it killed twice, functionally being a strongman
Yeah that’s hella broken
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Post Post #2713 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:11 am

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In post 2712, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2672, Ydrasse wrote:which the mafia team used rather smartly

tictac was accelerating the night kill to the day and enchant was doubling the kill so that it killed twice, functionally being a strongman
Yeah that’s hella broken
To be fair 3 shot BP is hella broken for town.

Scum needed a strongman to counter
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Post Post #2714 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:12 am

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In post 2675, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2672, Ydrasse wrote:which the mafia team used rather smartly

tictac was accelerating the night kill to the day and enchant was doubling the kill so that it killed twice, functionally being a strongman
That was smart!

So I was right on half of it!

It was a strongman day kill.

I think Marci and Gamma being here today though kinda sealed Enchant’s fate though as if we elim one the other kills Enchant.

So I am guessing by his concession that Enchant would just lose in that scenario.

I was debating elimming Gamma to avoid being duped and Marci shoot Enchant but wasn’t sure if that would auto because nebulous answer.

Can we get a list of the entire town/scum teams?
I also had a kill immunity I was holding onto from NDMath’s role
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Post Post #2715 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:14 am

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In post 2684, Ydrasse wrote:i think it was winnable if the nk on gamma went through (he was protected by ndmath’s ability) or if math died
Oh it was used up lmao
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Post Post #2716 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:25 am

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i mean 2shot is weaker than regular strongman, since can't use it on self and strongman kills just as dead/thru BG/vest also. granted this game had strongman-immunity (ndmath+gamma) against which double was potentially better.
daykilling is cool, but only mech-useful 4 dodging protec/track, which exited as nomsy+ few oneshots. the main thing was actually the power to confuse.
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Post Post #2717 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:47 am

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YES WE DID IT! GOOD JOB TOWN + GG MAFIA!! :D
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Post Post #2718 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:47 am

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Y’all did a good job of that confusion for sure

Took me a while to get even half way close with legends dying

I really think we might have been fucked on my replace if legends was around.

Y’all did good with what you had
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Post Post #2719 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:50 am

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Legends never die, we are just reborn.

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Post Post #2720 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:54 am

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Post Post #2721 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:39 am

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I feel like Fred played pretty well this game? They had a good shot on Enchant at least, for .2 of their health lmao. It's too bad we couldn't find them as Town but at least their being MLed at that time seemed to play into Town's favor.
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Post Post #2722 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:10 am

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Pretty easy to figure out who the funniest player was.
A touch of malice is always entertaining when the skin is thick. Still apologize to Mala for hammer, but I felt like I was made responsible for something just for existing.
That‘s why I got used to pretending to be a trashcan. It‘s just more peaceful.
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Post Post #2723 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:43 am

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In post 2719, Titus wrote:Legends never die,
they become a part of yume.
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Post Post #2724 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:54 am

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Looking back I think Fred solved well on D1 with their early Town reads (below) and their shot on Enchant N1.

Concurrently, I believe the below is what lead to your ML, Fred:
In post 468, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 233, Frogsterking wrote:I'm feeling the absence of genuine Town Hunters in this game. I could use more Town reads from the following players I town lean.


Town leans:
Fred, Dunn, Mala, Gamma, Toogle, Meerkat,

Null/scum: rest
p-value in this post is referring to the one found in statistics.

All the following reads have an approximate p-value of 95% in my estimate.

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The leftover reads have a p-value of 100%. This means it is no different than what is expected by chance. Which means they are all null.
In post 469, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:VOTE: Nomsy

Also scum with a p-value of 95% in my estimate.
In post 470, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Just starting to townread mastina with a p-value of 95%.

I have a feeling I'm using p-values incorrectly in some way that a statistician may be able to tell me.
In post 479, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:
In post 477, Vivax wrote:
In post 470, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Just starting to townread mastina with a p-value of 95%.

I have a feeling I'm using p-values incorrectly in some way that a statistician may be able to tell me.
The cutoff is 97.5 for unimodal curves, 95 for bimodal
Are you measuring two spectrums or one?

I don't even know if this is a game of mafia anymore lmao
The nature of alignments as data points is such that it isn't even continuous, causing it to be neither.

The idea I was trying to get at is that my confidence in all those reads are at 5%.

The statistical idea I was trying to get at is apparently so poorly thought out that my attempts to verbalise it makes me realise it's statistical nonsense.

Postscript:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-value

"Since the precise meaning of p-value is hard to grasp, misuse is widespread..."
I think this drew you a lot of negative attention which ultimately lead to players being more willing to BW later. I normally don't mind math discussions and even enjoy them in some cases, but even I was a little annoyed at best and suspicious at worst here because it seemed potentially designed to distract or disrupt the thread and I couldn't tell what you were getting at in the first place.

I think Fred had a positive impact on the game over all because I noticed he and NDMath were mutually Townreading each other, which influenced me to take a closer look at NDMath and their answers here:
In post 312, NDMath wrote:
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Rate each descriptive statement on how well it describes you using the Likert scale (1 = strongly disagree to 5 = strongly agree).

"Get angry easily" = 2

"Take charge" = 2

"Make people feel welcome" = 3

"Like music" = 3

"Like to tidy up" = 1

"Like to visit new places" = 2

"Feel comfortable around people" = 4

"Interested in many things" = 2

"Love order and regularity" = 4

"Am afraid to draw attention to myself" = 5

"Enjoy being part of a large crowd" = 2

"Cheer people up" = 2

"Lose my temper" = 1

"Enjoy the beauty of nature" = 2

"Enjoy thinking about things" = 5

"Cheat to get ahead" = 1

"Feel desperate" = 2

"Rarely overindulge" = ?

"Easily resist temptations" = 5

"Have a high opinion of myself" = 4

"Waste my time" = 3

"Need a push to get started" = 2

"Have little to contribute" = 4

"Keep my cool" = 4

"Avoid crowds" = 4

"Turn my back on others" = 3
I ended up not running my script on any results this game, but I could eyeball a few of the facets to get an idea. If NDMath is telling the truth then they're likely to be targeted as a suspect because of their temperament. Being reluctant to draw attention to themselves, unlikely to react impulsively and preferring to think analytically about their reads can easily appear like scum trying to fly under-the-radar. I thought NDMath was lying about their temperament and eventually realized it was unlikely.

I probably wouldn't have given NDMath as much benefit of the doubt if I didn't recall his name appeared early in some Town lists, so I would argue that Fred directly influenced the chain of events which lead to beeboy being the D1 lim instead of NDMath.

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