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In post 2696, Titus wrote:

In post 2693, Toogeloo wrote:Is two town Rolecops something that would appear in a normal game? That's where you lose me.

I'm very much aware and I reset on Frogsterking because of it. I think Frogsterking was designed to be a miselimination (he's the sole ungated role), with me as a backup miselimination. I mentioned as much before and when I CCed Frogsterking.

We should look at play IMO.

Incorrect. I am ungated as well and said as such earlier I believe.

I have stated and believe that I am pretty much the cop in this game.

In post 2699, MathBlade wrote:

In post 2696, Titus wrote:

In post 2693, Toogeloo wrote:Is two town Rolecops something that would appear in a normal game? That's where you lose me.

I'm very much aware and I reset on Frogsterking because of it. I think Frogsterking was designed to be a miselimination (he's the sole ungated role), with me as a backup miselimination. I mentioned as much before and when I CCed Frogsterking.

We should look at play IMO.

Incorrect. I am ungated as well and said as such earlier I believe.

I have stated and believe that I am pretty much the cop in this game.

No. You're full of yourself. Your role is weak and you use it to tell people what to do.

Roles are only as weak as one believes they are.

Unless they are literally weak lmao. Yay dad jokes

In post 2674, Titus wrote:Not_Mafia - Town
Enchant - Probably town, decent rolecop check no lim today
MalcolmTucker - Would elim (second choice)
Big Chungus Gaming - bad based on vca
Save The Dragons - Priority elimination
Cape90 - Would elim
Titus - Conftown
Toogeloo - gun to my head town, reveal if elo
MathBlade - Policy, would elim
marcistar - Feel the frustration, only look at if malcolm town
MariaR - Town

For now, a lim pool of StD, Malcolm, Math and Cape is decently small.

@MariaR, Toog, NM, thoughts?

You having this lim pool is like pretty funny

there is like 1 mafia at maximum

In post 2691, Titus wrote:Enchant, is there any chance Math is scum?

He 1) saved pooky from elim denying us a clear, 2) picked a fight with Frogster, 3) forced through furtiveglance elim, and 4) is trying to give outs to those who haven't claimed.

Is he just bad or scum?

i think just about everyone at this point claimed

you didn't express a distaste in this mass claiming we were doing

that was the whole point of enchant's whole thing

In post 2703, Cape90 wrote:

In post 2674, Titus wrote:Not_Mafia - Town
Enchant - Probably town, decent rolecop check no lim today
MalcolmTucker - Would elim (second choice)
Big Chungus Gaming - bad based on vca
Save The Dragons - Priority elimination
Cape90 - Would elim
Titus - Conftown
Toogeloo - gun to my head town, reveal if elo
MathBlade - Policy, would elim
marcistar - Feel the frustration, only look at if malcolm town
MariaR - Town

For now, a lim pool of StD, Malcolm, Math and Cape is decently small.

@MariaR, Toog, NM, thoughts?

You having this lim pool is like pretty funny

there is like 1 mafia at maximum

What's your pook?

In post 2704, Cape90 wrote:

In post 2691, Titus wrote:Enchant, is there any chance Math is scum?

He 1) saved pooky from elim denying us a clear, 2) picked a fight with Frogster, 3) forced through furtiveglance elim, and 4) is trying to give outs to those who haven't claimed.

Is he just bad or scum?

i think just about everyone at this point claimed

No. My target has not.

In post 2699, MathBlade wrote:I have stated and believe that I am pretty much the cop in this game.

I think technically a disloyal Vig is a better cop, lol

In post 2708, Toogeloo wrote:

In post 2699, MathBlade wrote:I have stated and believe that I am pretty much the cop in this game.

I think technically a disloyal Vig is a better cop, lol

Toog, thoughts on my suspect pool?

Titus - didn't I come back VT for you? Why am I now in your lim pool?

In post 2710, MalcolmTucker wrote:Titus - didn't I come back VT for you? Why am I now in your lim pool?

You've always been in my pool. You came back vanilla not vt. Rolecops don't get alignment. Vanilla includes goons.

What are your thoughts?

In post 2691, Titus wrote:Enchant, is there any chance Math is scum?

He 1) saved pooky from elim denying us a clear, 2) picked a fight with Frogster, 3) forced through furtiveglance elim, and 4) is trying to give outs to those who haven't claimed.

Is he just bad or scum?

I feel like scum Math would be a bit more careful in this scenario. Likely town and just been wrong. The general quiet aside from the two of you arguing makes me think scum were probably spooked after the Pooky elimination and don't want to say or do much while the two of you argue. Both of you are trying to solve, trying to gain info which could help the town and are willing to come across as frustrating to each other and other players to put across your viewpoints. I think this arguing is fundamentally TvT.

In post 2583, Enchant wrote:

In post 2576, Enchant wrote:

In post 2484, Enchant wrote:

In post 2368, Enchant wrote:

In post 2350, Enchant wrote:Not_Mafia -

Jester

Novice Disloyal vig << Conftown

Spoiler: Acts

N1: No Action
N2: Attacking Pooky. Result: Success.

Enchant - Modified Investigative

Spoiler: Acts

N1: No Action
N2: No Action

Big Chungus Gaming - Loyal Bodyguard

Spoiler: Acts

N1: ???
N2: PookyTheMagicalBear. Result: Action Failed

Titus - X-Shot Rolecop

Spoiler: Acts

N1: MalcolmTucker. Result - Vanilla
N2: ???

MathBlade - Vouyer

Spoiler: Acts

N1: Cape90. Result: No one visited.
N2: PookyTheMagicalBear. Result: 1x Attacking action.

marcistar - Even-Night Combined Doctor-Tracker

Spoiler: Acts:

N1: No Action
N2: MathBlade. Result: PookyTheMagicalBear

Cape90 - Vanilla Townie
Toogeloo - Fucking Bullshiter
Save The Dragons - Didn't Claim
MalcolmTucker - Vanilla Townie
MariaR - Vanilla Townie

Alisae - Vanilla Townie
kittytacky - Fruit Vendor

Spoiler: Acts

N1: Not_Mafia

furtiveglance - Novice JOAT (roleblocker, alien, tracker)

Spoiler: Acts

N1: No Action

PookyTheMagicalBear - 2-Shot Follower

Spoiler: Acts

N1: Titus. Result: Investigative Action
N2: Unknown

Frogsterking - Rolecop

Spoiler: Acts

N1: furtive. Result - Novice JOAT (roleblocker, alien, tracker)
N2: Unknown

Fixed again.

This one is actual.

I actually have some opinions, which i don't want to share for now, i will speak up if person in interest hits many votes, but i think they are fairly town. This opinion fairly easy to achieve by looking at list (go try).
List is again actual. I think.

Added. It was useless track though.


I have reason to not claim. If i am rolecopped, i also asking to not reveal me for now.

Update.

In post 2691, Titus wrote:Enchant, is there any chance Math is scum?

He 1) saved pooky from elim denying us a clear, 2) picked a fight with Frogster, 3) forced through furtiveglance elim, and 4) is trying to give outs to those who haven't claimed.

Is he just bad or scum?

Yes. He can be maf.

I don't want to vote Math though. Simple because of PR.

In post 2708, Toogeloo wrote:

In post 2699, MathBlade wrote:I have stated and believe that I am pretty much the cop in this game.

I think technically a disloyal Vig is a better cop, lol

We are in tandem.

A scum player can be BP and false inno.

If a killing action arrived and still dead then it’s still a guilty.

Hence why if/can NM shoot again I always want to voyeur the slot.

In post 1633, Save The Dragons wrote:i'm not sure how i feel about 1626 by Pooky i dunno why you're spending so much time convincing us of a safe read of mathblade being town rather than trying harder to push your controversial scum read. it just seems weird.

but then again i hate everyone on the pookywagon and would rather vote anyone on it than pooky

Skimming STD's slot given their inactivity since the latest turn and this feels like a very suspect post given Pooky being scum. It pushes Pooky a bit and critiques their play but also gives Pooky some scope to then expand on any reads they have, and crucially finds an out to avoid going on the Pooky bandwagon at all.

STD wasn't keen on the Furtive wagon in 2489 but didn't really do anything to stop it at all - it feels like a brief attempt to look correct when Furtive eventually came back down.

The vote and push on Titus is pretty weak as well, especially given STD was critical of the wagon on Pooky when it ended up being correct.

On gut I TR'd STD early on because their responses to suspicion didn't feel scummy but their D2 play is really scummy.

It’s why I am nervous especially if NM has multiple shots that either Marci or BGC would be scum.

Given I suspect both STD and Marci of being scum I note that in 281 STD comes right out the bat by saying they mindmeld with Marci which momentarily put me off them being potential teammates given it's a pretty bold defence right out the bat.

But after that there's very little interaction on STD's end - from Marci there's one random vote on STD which never really went anywhere, at other points they TR them though. I've already said I think there's nothing stopping Pooky and Marci from potentially being linked too. Don't hate this at all as a potential scumteam.

BP with rolecop in game? Duh. Doesh't sound like fake inno idk.

I have no problem elimming the unreplaced StD slot but I want to confirm Titus as rolecop first.

I don’t want to have an unconfirmed Titus claim something in a possible elo and then people have to scramble.

That’s my biggest fear.

Pedit:

NM shoots a BP Mafia.
NM shoots a Townie

Without the voyeur these LOOK the same.

In post 2720, MathBlade wrote:I have no problem elimming the unreplaced StD slot but I want to confirm Titus as rolecop first.

I don’t want to have an unconfirmed Titus claim something in a possible elo and then people have to scramble.

That’s my biggest fear.

Pedit:

NM shoots a BP Mafia.
NM shoots a Townie

Without the voyeur these LOOK the same.

Looking back at the Pooky wagon D2 I don't really see that coming from Titus. And the dynamics which may have come from scum STD pushing back against it with a weak vote against Titus while also not offering a particularly robust defence of Pooky at the same time looks much more convincing to me.

I don't know, I get very active players like you and Titus don't go radio silent as scum but the back and forth between you both does not read like scum vs town interaction to me and that's reinforced by the silence of a lot of players around you who probably saw it as convenient to sit back.

In post 2721, MalcolmTucker wrote:

In post 2720, MathBlade wrote:I have no problem elimming the unreplaced StD slot but I want to confirm Titus as rolecop first.

I don’t want to have an unconfirmed Titus claim something in a possible elo and then people have to scramble.

That’s my biggest fear.

Pedit:

NM shoots a BP Mafia.
NM shoots a Townie

Without the voyeur these LOOK the same.

Looking back at the Pooky wagon D2 I don't really see that coming from Titus. And the dynamics which may have come from scum STD pushing back against it with a weak vote against Titus while also not offering a particularly robust defence of Pooky at the same time looks much more convincing to me.

I don't know, I get very active players like you and Titus don't go radio silent as scum but the back and forth between you both does not read like scum vs town interaction to me and that's reinforced by the silence of a lot of players around you who probably saw it as convenient to sit back.

It’s possible but I’d rather not risk it here.

If she confirms herself rolecop I have zero qualms about an StD wagon (I still think you’re town)

I just have seen false guilties and innos and Titus gives me that icky feeling and I know how good she is as scum.

So I would rather her on the off chance she is scum she’s locked into a rolecop claim versus Neo or Vanilla cop which I think would help scum more than a rolecop.