Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:18 pm
I agree with Furpants. False advertisment right there.
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Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:18 pm
How is it, look at my quote!
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:19 pm
Hell no I won't. This is dodgy as hell.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:19 pm
No it's not. You voted Vote A! You agreed to El G and Kunk!
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:19 pm
Do we still have to vote, or..?
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:20 pm
No Seacore. When you were formulating the plan you specifically stated '2nd wagonee 3rd wagonee'. You recently just so changed this before people even noticed.
This is sketchy as hell.
This is sketchy as hell.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:21 pm
I agreed to Wagonee #2 and #3, because that's what was discussed. I assumed they were in your Plan A post as placeholders, because we had already decided on the #2/#3 aspect of the plan. I don't think I'm alone in having reached that conclusion; and I think you're well aware that was the deal as perceived by many.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:21 pm
I changed it before people noticed? How, when I specifically stated it and got people to vote and I last minute changing it?
Somebody said, that as we approached deadline we should substitute names in. As soon as it became clear it was MoI for the lynch, I added in who was 2nd and 3rd wagon.
El G only stopped being 3rd wagon because people jumped off to get MoI because of the deadline anyway.
Somebody said, that as we approached deadline we should substitute names in. As soon as it became clear it was MoI for the lynch, I added in who was 2nd and 3rd wagon.
El G only stopped being 3rd wagon because people jumped off to get MoI because of the deadline anyway.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:22 pm
I really don't care who does it between El G and Baby Spice, I'm just worried that we've now got two grave rob plans. The final vote between wicked's and my plans had names, I don't see what's wrong with following that.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:26 pm
I would be happy with either, I am very unhappy with you and/or hito picking one without the town's input.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:27 pm
I thought the plan was whoever was on the final vote count?
*crosschecks*
*crosschecks*
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:27 pm
We did not, the final vote was specifically listed. No deception!
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:30 pm
Sound like anyone we know?Gurgi, MD thread wrote: The main symptom of being a VI seems to be what I will call the Twitter Effect. VIs will just post without having ever thought. Then when people say that they haven't thought, the VI gets defensive, rather than admitting their mistake. Agreeing with another player is fine, even good, but VIs tend to just retweet and not add anything or even think about why they agree or else they never agree with anyone. They also use far too many acronyms, too much jargon, and apply too many 'standard' concepts without thinking. Stop reading the wiki and try to understand the basic concepts of mafia. Try drafting your posts before posting them. Treat it like a paper if you have to. Revise. Be concise but explain your ideas. Don't use shortcuts that could cause confusion, but the same is true for metaphors and explanation. Concision is pro-town, don't spam. People will lynch you just to be rid of you.
OH WAIT.
Spoiler:
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:31 pm
First off, I blame Furc for this debacle.
Secondly, the worst case scenario is that both El G and BabySpice attempt to rob.
Thirdly, I think this is pretty damn suspicious; but continuing to argue about it is more likely to do harm than good.
Secondly, the worst case scenario is that both El G and BabySpice attempt to rob.
Thirdly, I think this is pretty damn suspicious; but continuing to argue about it is more likely to do harm than good.
So I withdraw, please go along with Seacore/Hito's surprise town-plan Baby and El G.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:32 pm
Actually, worst case scenario is that they both claim to follow the other and neither robs.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:32 pm
QFTFurpants_Tom wrote:First off, I blame Furc for this debacle.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:35 pm
Bah, I'm trying to look for it, but I don't see anyone saying 'El G not Baby Spice', aside from Seacore.
Hito, why did you put El G instead of BS?
Although, Furpants is correct. We should go with the plan before anyone fudges up.
Hito, why did you put El G instead of BS?
Although, Furpants is correct. We should go with the plan before anyone fudges up.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:49 pm
I'd rather E L G grave rob.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:28 pm
I put in ElG for a few specific reasons. One of them is this:
Thirdly - the town obviously has a desire to pressure both ElG and BS. Mechanisms can be gamed by scum. To townies, there's not a big difference between ElG robbing or BS, because they both got significant wagons. To cult - pow! Screwed up your wagon-gaming!
More importantly, ElG is suspicious mostly for what they DIDN'T do. Players we're info light on are better ones to lock down. If you find someone is scummy for dropping scumtells, they may continue dropping scumtells. Players you suspect because they're not dropping info have a high chance of not dropping info. The later is more dangerous.Seacore wrote:I'd rather El Goosuki, that wagon only died because of the deadline, it was still a more significant wagon than Baby Spice.
Thirdly - the town obviously has a desire to pressure both ElG and BS. Mechanisms can be gamed by scum. To townies, there's not a big difference between ElG robbing or BS, because they both got significant wagons. To cult - pow! Screwed up your wagon-gaming!
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:33 pm
EBWOP: Also I copied the list directly from VP 2672, and to be honest I trust his judgment more than pretty much anyone else here.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:12 pm
Hell, Furcolow had nothing to do with the grave rob plan and he still screwed with it.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:24 pm
BS, confirm that you understood the plan and are
Hito's reasoning seems pretty sound.
not
graverobbing tonight.Hito's reasoning seems pretty sound.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:29 pm
It's ok VV, I got that. Me no rob.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:29 pm
While BS confirming is nice, I'd rather an El G confirmation.
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:31 pm
I would have voted B though 
Any other comments I want to make on the subject can wait for D3 because we have too much potential for confusion already.
Any other comments I want to make on the subject can wait for D3 because we have too much potential for confusion already.