Aristophanes <3
In post 33, Aristophanes wrote:I'm going to assume 2/3 scum are from the prein list. He would want to be sure his preferred team is invited!
In post 997, Aristophanes wrote:I'm trying to refrain from guessing scum via draft though! Otherwise Mastina/Ginngie/someone old school like DGB would be my guesses. Gotta go by play tho!
In post 997, Aristophanes wrote:Dammit mastina! Why must you make such compelling posts! Like, I already think the two of you are prime draft candidates for scum!
Inconsistency in whether he's using the draft for sorting indicates he's saying whatever makes sense in the moment rather than saying things that result from a legitimate train of thought. Also jeez these two posts aren't that far apart in his ISO, but miles apart ingame.
His early read on mastina was
insta scum based on her opening scumclaim. But his scumread of her is shallow and mostly made up of "wtf is she doing??" (not a direct quote but he does say "wtf" to her posts twice -
811,
1350 - so I feel justified in this characterisation), which feels like a stance a scumbuddy would take considering it would be fairly difficult for him to engage with her in a realistic way. It would need to stay surface level.
His engagement with the shos lynch was pretty bland support for the only wagon going in posts such as
2407, with no apparent drive to look into other players. Oh except
2367.
In post 2367, Aristophanes wrote:Interesting quote. I don't think he would put all three of his scumbuddies on the list, just a mafia theory thing, and none of the rest have flipped. If we take this and cross it with
In post 1829, Ginngie wrote:Town: Ginngie, Mulch, LLD, NSG,
Maria
, Ari, BB
Who left:
shos
,
DGB
, Keychain
Madoka
and it leaves us DGB and Shos as the question marks that likely contain the last scum.
In post 891, implosion wrote: In post 872, Mulch wrote:I'm pretty much in my town meta.
Camn
is town.
Math
, ari, and
mastina
are solidly in their town meta, although I'm having some reservations about
Math
because I know he's a capable scum player. But there have been a few subtle things here that are making me read him town.
MariaR
,
kuuhaku
,
Firebringer
, and
Implosion
are also solid meta town treads. Same with northsidegal, although not as confident. And I really like
Centipede's
last post, but not going to lock them town yet.
I agree with basically this entire list sans maria. My poe pool is actually really small right now that I count the people in it (
reck
,
shos
,
dgb
, lld,
maria
).
I'm certainly wrong somewhere but alas.
Implo is really jazzed about the list Mulch presented, which makes sense! He seemed to townread most of the scumteam!
But it seems really likely that his PoE contains one scum name! 3 of them are unflipped and guess what names appear again! (I put them in blue because I am having fun with colours tn
)
Also other than these mentions the pair appear nowhere else in his Iso but his "I forgot DGB was alive" quip on Page 1.
I'll check the other scum and the Isos of these two, but I think we have our scum!
Here it looks like he's cherry picking several posts and combining them to reach a conclusion that isn't really meaningful and doesn't really go anywhere. Like why use that Ginngie post? Ginn wasn't even dead town at the time. Maybe I'm forgetting important context, but it seems contrived.
Then today. When I claimed my inno on Goofball:
In post 2574, Aristophanes wrote:Keychain, if this is a true inno it doesn't matter if we do this today or tomorrow, so I'll leave it up to you if we are to go for it or not today!
He clearly sees that the inno means we're in no worse a situation than we would be in 3P LyLo.
However he's now pivoted to pushing that I would be aiming for MyLo as scum:
In post 2731, Aristophanes wrote:Town love lylo because it takes out a variable and makes it more likely all town will vote together. Mylo is waaaaay better for scum because getting all 3 townies to agree is tough enough, and getting them all to vote scum is even tougher! Mylo is simply way better for scum!
The way he's using the same evidence to reach whichever conclusion best suits him at the time is scum trying to get their final lynch. If he actually believed this, he would be pushing for no lynch.
He also early on in the day states his surety in BB scum:
In post 2613, Aristophanes wrote:Okay, so Molla it is then! Thanks for making it easy!
The amount of shit being flung in that post!
probably because from scum perspective it would have looked hard to lynch me after my claim, and there was an indication of some support for that lynch from camn. He acknowledges in the same post that the logistics of my claim don't really make sense as scum:
In post 2613, Aristophanes wrote:Keychain could be scum bus driver, we all agree on that. Bur the logistics really don't work else either NSG should be alive or they shot DGB and redirected their own kill for whatever reason they would do that (if scum can even sumbit an action and kill at the same time).
then hey, total about turn.
In post 2712, Aristophanes wrote:So I just did an Iso of Molla and Key-Rama and crtl+f'd mastina. I was going to do this for all the scum team, and still might, but holy shit is it obvious this is Key-Rama Scum!
I'll make this into an actual case in a bit so long as time permits, but wow, with this, voting placement on D1, and the claim, I'm pretty positive we have our scum! =D
He's done a 180 to thinking I'm positively scum, and now switches to using the claim as evidence for me being
not
town.
I see his development to thinking BB's reaction is town, but this level of certainty of both of us being scum, just at different times, doesn't make sense from town in MyLo. He's not thinking about which of us is scum, he's figuring out which one of us he can lynch.
I'd forgotten how bloody hard it is to write cases on my phone.
