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Also this convo with RR is boring and NAI WIFOM filled.

*shrug* Either you think town!me did what town!me does and found the best way to use a claimed role and was trying to share it while preserving the value of the role, or nottown!me found the best way to use a claimed role and a way to push someone to kill themselves while still having the ability to defend myself from the inevitable pushback.

I don't think either is more likely than the other in a void, though if we really want to continue down this line I could probably come up with reason why nottown!me wouldn't have approached that situation the way I did.

-Cerb

Flavor stop making empty posts
who is scum

I just don't buy that this is how you handle D2 and Toog out the gate.
I sheeped you to see how you'd handle everything (and because I was interested in how a serious Toog wagon WOULD shape up) and your play around the Toog push has turned out to be unsatisfying.
I think the details of how you handled the role is far more likely to come from non-town you and positioning it in a void without the context of how you've also been playing in this game and in SaGa is intentionally turning a blind eye to the reality of the game.

In post 2727, Wisdom wrote:Flavor stop making empty posts
who is scum

Wisdom, would you be so kind as to grace us with at least 3 words about why those people you suspect of being scum are scum? 3 words each, that is? I know you aren't a reason giving person, but it helps me figure out if I've been missing shit or not.

-Cerb

because i havent seen reason to townread them

they’re not empty. I’m absorbing setup spec which helps me game solve.

And I gave thoughts on DGB.

I need to ISO for a push, but I didn’t like Hebi’s go ahead and lynch me attitude.

In post 2730, Wisdom wrote:because i havent seen reason to townread them

Are you only looking for town right now then, and that's just a PoE list essentially?

-Cerb

I'm very scummy, don't you think? Look at my Day 1 lurking. I defended the scum and today I pushed Toog to be modkilled.

Yeah, you're lowkey blatant here, DGB.

If subtlety worked, i wouldn't have to.

Huh.
So, like.
Do I just.
Vote you?

Varsoon stahp it. You're giving me vibes of that one game where you parlayed a fake cop guilty into an absurd amount of crap ... while I literally told the game exactly who was scum and what you (scum) were doing and got ignored.

~D

If you find my previous post unsatisfying in the least, please imagine how unsatisfying it is for me to read you with a boner for a single game Cerb played in hydra with ... !me

~D

You guys just literally told me Toog was scum and I followed you and your hydra was just pushing a wagon on town and pressuring them to explode.
You didn't even know for sure if Toog's death would end the day.

Four Words:

Hindsight Bias

Less Wrong (dot com)

~D

REASSESSING INFO POST FLIP
IS LITERALLY
THE CORNERSTONE
OF HOW MAFIA WORKS

In post 2736, Varsoon wrote:Huh.
So, like.
Do I just.
Vote you?

YEAH YEAH YEAH

votecount

With 24 alive it takes 13 to lynch.

Gamma Emerald (2):

Alonzo (2508),

Wisdom (2566),

DrippingGoofball (2):

RCEnigma (2510),

Creature (2632),

Reasonably Rational (2):

Fortian (2662),

Varsoon (2668),

Nero Cain (1):

pinturicchio (2509),

Varsoon (1):

profii (2703),

Not voting (16):

Flavor Leaf,

Malakitty,

Alchemist21,

BuJaber,

Tails,

davesaz,

Gamma Emerald,

Thor665,

CheekyTeeky,

BrightEyedFish,

Nero Cain,

Amzela,

Reasonably Rational (2516),

DrewVa (2571),

hebichan (2611),

DrippingGoofball (2629),

(expired on 2018-12-17 18:30:00) remain.

Can we lynch Nero now that y'all fucked up? For real, not blaming anyone in particular because of the pandas' extintion, but get your shit together for fucks sake

In post 2474, pinturicchio wrote:Oh hi.
If I don't make it through the night:
Townreads: Fortian, BuJaber, Varsoon, davesaz, Toogeloo, Tails
Townleans: RR, Alonzo, Gamma, Thor, BrownEyedGirl, RCE
Null: Creature, Alchemist, Cheeky, hebichan, FlavorLeaf, Amzela
Scumlean: DrewVa, Wisdom, Malakitty
Scumreads: profii, DrippingGoofball
Special offer: if Clem=scum, Nero=kill it with fire; if Clem=anything else, Nero=null

Byeeeeeeee

The special offer is still going

Not opposed to giving Jester his win personally, although I think Nancy wants to lynch scum -- DVa

In post 2746, DrewVa wrote:Not opposed to giving Jester his win personally, although I think Nancy wants to lynch scum -- DVa

DGB is making WIFOM shit right now to make us believe she's the jester in order to avoid the lynch today; if she's scum, which I believe is a strong possibility, she's more likely the best power role her team has. So pushing her is a good idea, but she should be killed the next night if that's possible, since the WIFOM shit exists. She's not town, that's for sure.

So in the meantime, before we see if that slots solves itself at night, we should lynch Nero. Can I get a hell yeah?

@Pint - I don't think DGBs play here makes sense as scum, let alone some strong scum PR, her play here guatentees that she never endsgames, particularly in a power role heavy and kill heavy game. She's not scum, she'll be dealt with at night at some point for sure, end of.

Now talk to me about Nero, I've got a relatively strong town read on him here, partially meta based, the rest on him coming across as town who generally has no real idea what's going on, feel like his changes of opinion and thoughts on things fit with replacing in and trying to analyse a lot of information (albeit, poorly done). I think it's rather difficult for scum to sort of fake that sort of play. So what am I missing here? Convince me that I'm misreading him here. Also talk to me about your townish leans on RR and BFE since I think that's where we most likely find scum at the moment.

In post 2744, pinturicchio wrote:Can we lynch Nero now that y'all fucked up? For real, not blaming anyone in particular because of the pandas' extintion, but get your shit together for fucks sake

In post 2638, Toogeloo wrote:Actually, if I were to bow out now, I'd have done plenty to impact the game with my global protection last night, so I'm thinking it might be for the best.

Final thoughts before I go...
Nero seems town.
DrewVa seems town.
Wisdom seems town.
One or both of RR or Varsoon seems scummy.
Cerb's GF might be scum too from what I remember reading.
DGB and hebi are just dumb, but could be scum or town.

VOTE: Varsoon