In post 661, Vedith wrote:The only thing I don't understand with Spike and Jet is their thought process with me.
Tells me they can stop the wagon
I call it buddying
They call me town for it
Chito and Yuuri say again that I should be lynched
Spike and Jet vote
Something here just doesn't add up.
this extremely strongly indicates that spike and jet are also scum
very little Creature content and what is there is well within his ability to create as scum
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:35 pm
by Severa
hey that was easy. spike and jet are scum.
I might even make a case tomorrow.
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 9:52 pm
by Toogeloo
Could be.
I think the safer ooba lynch is the best route today though. Lots of players town telling at this point, so it's better to let night actions aid in removing the stand out players in one way or another, and then revisit the stances tomorrow. There is a definitive line in the sand in regards to FL and NxM, so we don't need to force a 1v1 right now with so many people on each side. Let some additional evidence pile up and revisit it tomorrow.
Get rid ooba today since there isn't any activity coming from the slot, and it's an ambiguous enough slot that can be afforded the lynch, and then I imagine I'll be targeted during the evening and people will have more answers to work with for tomorrow as well.
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:40 pm
by Severa
no
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:40 pm
by Severa
I'm 1v1ing S&J.
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:40 pm
by Severa
I'm going to lose that 1v1 today but they are scum 100% of the time.
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:46 pm
by Severa
No offense but from the position of being universally scumread I am not wasting my limited time in this thread reading a fucking wisdom kokichi hydra.
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:47 pm
by Severa
Hey, Toogeloo: you were wolfreading S&J earlier in the game. What changed?
You don't really seem to respond well to pressure. You may need to experiment with a different play style that better suits your strengths.
That being said, I've been getting nothing but town vibes from your slot, especially in these last couple pages. I will say, however, there is a bit of concern that Spike and Jet might be buddying you, which is setting up a few flags.
In post 613, Toogeloo wrote:Piecing the game together, I think it's very possible Spike and Jet could be scum here.
Alisae was going ho Creature scum meta. After constant pushes, Creature finally shows up, but Alisae has now replaced out, so any pressure that might have happened will never be.
I have just been getting a lot of activity filler feelings from the past few pages, and the recent buddying of Verdith is just making me feel worse about the slot.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Spike and Jet
I think that this is also scum.
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:50 pm
by Severa
Also regarding the 'hey you know you may be right but LETS LYNCH THIS OTHER RANDOM PERSON FOR LURKING.
I think the safer ooba lynch is the best route today though. Lots of players town telling at this point, so it's better to let night actions aid in removing the stand out players in one way or another, and then revisit the stances tomorrow. There is a definitive line in the sand in regards to FL and NxM, so we don't need to force a 1v1 right now with so many people on each side. Let some additional evidence pile up and revisit it tomorrow.
Get rid ooba today since there isn't any activity coming from the slot, and it's an ambiguous enough slot that can be afforded the lynch, and then I imagine I'll be targeted during the evening and people will have more answers to work with for tomorrow as well.
In fact yeah I'm feeling better and better about this not being just 1 but 2
The line in the sand comment about me/NxM when I'm trying to talk about Spike Jet is icky. As far as I know there's no mechanical reason I should scumread NxM. I'd scumread NxM if they had good reads because it's more likely that they're bussing than that both heads are right about a read. This is a pretty typical scum way to divert attention from my Spike Jet scumread: call for a different lynch today and then set up a 1v1 dichotomy between me and someone who isn't Spike Jet
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:53 pm
by Severa
Obviously my certain is far higher on spike and jet but I'm putting that out there.
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:59 pm
by Severa
In post 1090, Vedith wrote:The whole Mastina and Pink Ball shit is never flipping any thing other than TvT.
So basically the choices for me to vote without having a wasteful vote on a 1 man train is on myself, Mastina, Pink or Gamma.
I don't think Gamma is Scum.
Spike and Jet, why are you only trying to get Drixx to do stuff when half the players aren't?
In post 1091, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:Why are you only asking Spike and Jet when multiple people have attempted to push him to do stuff?
-Yukiteru
Because Spike and Jet are literally just voting where others say to.
oh look
toogeloo isn't the only one who doubtcasted obvscum spike and jet while never actually pushing for their lynch
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:45 pm
by Ankamius
VOTE: ooba
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:46 pm
by Severa
nope nope nope
that's not flipping scum.
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 11:56 pm
by Severa
aight so I've read a decent chunk of the game and there's a big preface I need to make before I start casing Spike and Jet:
you are fucking high if you think that the game is basically solved because you correctly lynched scum!
vedith
on day one.
You are also fucking high if you think that he wasn't bussed by at least a few scum.
Your collective PoE pool is shit and play like this is the traditional reason that towns lose after lynching scum D1, everyone turns their brains off and goes onto autopilot.
People are talking like the game is already basically over when you lynched 1 scum and one who was an extremely weak player and pretty much all your associative scumreads are shit.
Get past the idea that lynching scum!Vedith means the game is over.
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:00 am
by Severa
Toog, for the record, might be scum. only person in that group who might be (probably is) scum. some variant of townreads on literally every other person who is being frequently brought up as a lynch candidate. one of the major ones obviously being me who is, y'know, conftown.
In post 583, Reasonably Psychotic wrote:4/9 votes makes you worried and panicked, when there's not really any concrete pressure on you, and we're not close enough to deadline to just default to you, and as a replacement people tend to give you room to breathe if a deadline isn't approaching?
Urge to vote pink ball rising.
In post 591, Spike and Jet wrote:VOTE: reasonably psychotic
yukiterus new posts are fluff
and no, good points were not made about spike
Urge to take vote off of reasonably psychotic lowering.
In post 613, Toogeloo wrote:Piecing the game together, I think it's very possible Spike and Jet could be scum here.
Alisae was going ho Creature scum meta. After constant pushes, Creature finally shows up, but Alisae has now replaced out, so any pressure that might have happened will never be.
I have just been getting a lot of activity filler feelings from the past few pages, and the recent buddying of Verdith is just making me feel worse about the slot.
UNVOTE: VOTE: Spike and Jet
You're likely town, but let's not.
In post 629, Spike and Jet wrote:Also Alisae was too early on me. You can't tell my alignment in the first few days.
In post 570, Robert2424 wrote:Damn, deadline is faster approaching then I though, thankfully I thought to check here first. I was expecting 5+ more pages to read through missing a day, but people are replacing out once they get a bit of pressure....
In post 572, Robert2424 wrote:While I still suspect Near x Mello, I'm slightly more uncomfortable with the Pink Ball/asking for friend slot. Perhaps Pink Ball will provide something better then asking did.
Vote: Pink Ball
at least for now.
Editing vote tag, just in case the vote counter overlooks it.
In post 659, Toogeloo wrote:Creature is spam posting now, but not really doing more than that. Just artificially boosting post count to look super active.
Posting reads is artificially boosting post count?