TENET - Game Over

[Spiffeh]

The longer shelly remains absent after her claim the more I want her to die

[Gypyx]

Why are people saying shelly's claim is town?

She could literally be telling the complete truth about her role and still be scum

This is accurate, plus follower is a weak role.

Here, titus litterally rides on the shelly wave, she doesn't really put new content foward but still postions herself as pushing the wagon, but like, the logic doesn't make any sense actually? Scum role doesn't mean weak role?

I mean who gets her claim result anyway? It's a claim set up to give nothing.

(Post about shelly)

Again, more mindset incosistensy, if shelly is scum realclaiming, why is she trying to shade it as fake? That's pretty obvious bussing imo

Is it wrong that I want to omgus gypyx and airlock shellyc?

And then with no additional posts from shelly inbetween titus decides to vote on me for no real reason, and like, she asks for permission to OMGUS, which shouldn't be a problem for town!titus?

[Annie Edison]

I still say leave the claim for day 2 and scour the thread for crumbs

[Hench Princesses]

I think I would have gotten annie way earlier but when I asked her about the dumbtell she said it'd be unfun to win that way. That one post I think bothered my feeling of her more than I thought, it felt pretty scummy at that moment. Makes me keep looking for something harder town for her other than peacemaking. The tinfoil could be that but I'm not sure sure, or at least not sure sure sure

[Hench Princesses]

There are worlds where forgetting a50 is in the game could make him scum but I can't tell how much of it is just the holidays making it hard for him to catchup. And I kinda don't want to derail shelly for a50 unless I'm actively scumreading him and not just agonizing over best shot in poe

[Annie Edison]

...me saying I wouldn’t try to use a cheap tactic as scum bothered you?

Okay.

[Bell]

What do people think of shelly by play?

Scum.

[Spiffeh]

notty I don't really care about any potential crumbs out there, it's not the existence of the role that I'm questioning

She is the scummiest player to me her dipping right after her claim does nothing to change that

[Gypyx]

Bell, what's your take on titus?

[Imperium]

The longer shelly remains absent after her claim the more I want her to die

I hate claim and dippers.

[Hench Princesses]

...me saying I wouldn’t try to use a cheap tactic as scum bothered you?

Okay.

Yeah, lmao, I actually thought it was kinda scummy. I would have thought it was townier if you were like 'maybe but probably not' -- moreover I felt like you were taking something that could be overcompensation as an attempted dumbtell when it didn't have to be that. Slightly misinterpreting something in a way to make you seem townier is a little scummy.

It's that vs a50 being forgettable and shelly dipping on the thread after claiming at f2, I almost want to just stop thinking about every other slot in this timeline

[Bell]

Bell, what's your take on titus?

Super different, happier, jokier, effortier Titus. Is...difficult for me to interpret.

[Bell]

...me saying I wouldn’t try to use a cheap tactic as scum bothered you?

Okay.

Yeah, lmao, I actually thought it was kinda scummy. I would have thought it was townier if you were like 'maybe but probably not' -- moreover I felt like you were taking something that could be overcompensation as an attempted dumbtell when it didn't have to be that. Slightly misinterpreting something in a way to make you seem townier is a little scummy.

It's that vs a50 being forgettable and shelly dipping on the thread after claiming at f2, I almost want to just stop thinking about every other slot in this timeline

gtg bnl.

[Titus]

@Gypyx, All of that is stretching at best. My posting is pretty clear that I am conflicted of both you and shelly and wouldn't mind if either of you died. Shelly's leaving and ignoring of this thread is suspect.

Shelly could be scum real claiming or not. Follower is a not strong role (what I meant by weak). Then you add in the various hurdles shelly can make up, It's a claim that gives nothing. Scum shelly could claim roleblocked, her recipent lied, dead recipient etc.

You're interpreting my posts as asking for permission. I don't ask for permission but feedback. I do what I want when I want.

Your own posting is inconsistent. If I am scum bussing, then why are you arguing against executing Shelly?

[Bell]

The hell did that quote come from.

[Titus]

Bell, what's your take on titus?

Super different, happier, jokier, effortier Titus. Is...difficult for me to interpret.

That's because you keep drawing scum lol.

[Brian Skies]

Also just though of something, like, the fact that i'm the only PoE read left in this thread and yet no one has scumcased me kinda shows that something is wrong with the current townreads no?

Even if you were the only POE read, why would this be a problem considering we already shipped out two players and it's possible scum only had 2 or 3 players in this thread to being with?

[Imperium]

The reason why I'm town reading notscience is the reaction to being run up. He's stated several times that he thinks he's unmislynchable now and that it would be hard to get him mislynched. When he was that close to actually being eliminated, the tone was one of actual shock and disbelief. He kept insisting he was obvtown even though it was just driving the hate against him even more. He felt completely baffled that it had gotten to that point, and I think if he were actually scum there that sense of sheer disbelief wouldn't have been there.

I was very neutral on him up until that point.

[Almost50]

Nah. Absolutely no time for cross-reading. Somebody catch me up in here. I'll read the other thread during the night

[Brian Skies]

Nah. Absolutely no time for cross-reading. Somebody catch me up in here. I'll read the other thread during the night

Uh. Idk. We're debating the Shelly/Gyx POE and debating whether anyone else that's not in the POE should be reconsidered.

[Imperium]

@A50, these are my most recent thoughts - let me know if there's anything crazy that I missed or anything that seems crazy to you. I'm working on getting a readslist together now so I'll try to catch you up best you can.

I think that Pooky is scum that we sent over. I think that Pooky took advantage of the thread chaos in order to give a voice to people like Superbowl and ram through that mislynch. I hate him going over there and immediately having an agenda in mind when he couldn't cobble anything together in this thread.

Pisskop could still be scum. He could still be town. I am extremely skeptical that we hit all three in kop/Pooky/Shelly and so would love to find a fourth option that I don't feel absolutely garbage about before lynching. At the very least, would love to have some time Saturday to put together a big readslist.

Annie Edison (notscience/The Bulge)
unwnd
shellyc
Titus Sirius9121
Spiffeh
Almost50
Hench Princesses (Happy Unbirthday Boon/anon)
Bell
Brian Skies
Imperium (Nachomomma8/Tammy)
Gypyx
zMuffinMan

I would be ridiculously surprised to find scum in Annie/unwnd/Bell.

I do not have concerns and aren't really thinking of ever lynching Titus/Brian.

I'm townreading Spiffeh/MuffinMan pretty strongly and would be shocked if scum but there are probably fringe universes where they are scum.

Gypyx I'm not scum reading at all but I also don't know him at all - peta mentioned his scum game would be fruitful to read so I'd like to do some skimming of his scum games.

Hench Princesses I am townreading but the slot I feel needs the greatest amount of DUE DILIGENCE (aka would maybe think of turnstiling 2moro with a Shelly miss). I townread their side in the unwnd nonsense but I want to revisit. I townread their attitude change when Boon replaced in the other game but Tammy brought up that it might have been to pocket him (aka being afraid of being called out if they didn't) and so I'd like to revisit. I don't see any of the other slots doing anything to change my read significantly so this is probably the one I'm hoping does the most soul-searching in crunch time.

Almost50 being scum would not surprise me THAT much. I think that a skitter-Almost team would be a little strange but not unreasonable. I still could very easily see him as town - didn't like the opening but since then he's just been so disconnected from the game overall it's hard to see a scum agenda in his posting.

Shellyc scum confidence level actually goes up considerably with the new info that she was sick for part of the day phase. I don't think the lurking is alignment indicative - she's capable of posting as scum - but I don't think the mindset in her posts is coming from a townie.

[Bell]

Bell, what's your take on titus?

Super different, happier, jokier, effortier Titus. Is...difficult for me to interpret.

That's because you keep drawing scum lol.

Gunna undercut myself here and point out that shelly posts later because she’s in Asia.

[Almost50]

Nah. Absolutely no time for cross-reading. Somebody catch me up in here. I'll read the other thread during the night

Uh. Idk. We're debating the Shelly/Gyx POE and debating whether anyone else that's not in the POE should be reconsidered.

Did we turnstile a second player?

[Hench Princesses]

Is ns a he? Fuuuck my bad man. I struggle with gender flipped avatars on hydras

[Brian Skies]

Idk. Poor Pooky seemed pretty bent up about you turnstiling him and challenged you to a race on who can eliminate all the scum in their thread the quickest.