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Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:14 pm
by Titus
Math, stop talking about balance and go by play alone. Whatcha see bro?

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:15 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I could see maybe 4 scum with (traitor, traitor neighbor, neighbor goon, doctor) perhaps working

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:15 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2725, Titus wrote:Math, stop talking about balance and go by play alone. Whatcha see bro?
I sheep you and win. *shrug*

There’s too much mechanics. Soon as I try by play I remember mechanics then realize my idea was stupid.

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:16 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 0, tris wrote:DkKoba
Gamma Emerald
Datisi
MathBlade
Aristeia
Titus
Lukewarm
ChaosOmega
Not_Mafia
Gamma and chaos both got results, so not them.

Koba has been cleared, and would not have been the night kill, so not him.

I would not have been surprised if you had jailed me after the lolhammer, but I doubt the scum team ever targets me after the lolhammer, and a kill stopped. So not me.

So : dats again, math, Ari, nm are the options imo.

Dats could have been the kill target again, trying to put smart you protecting one of the investigatives (and failing)

I really think nm is town, but also never getting shot. So taking him off again.

So my guess is either Ari or math.

Gth, it's math. Final answer

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:17 pm
by Datisi
In post 2726, Gamma Emerald wrote:I could see maybe 4 scum with (traitor, traitor neighbor, neighbor goon, doctor) perhaps working
i have a feeling i've seen mastina say somewhere that she hates 4-scum mini normals. i can try to find it later, but i don't think it's likely she'd design a game like that

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:19 pm
by Titus
*scribbles notes*

Math, an analysis like 2728 please.

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:19 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2725, Titus wrote:Math, stop talking about balance and go by play alone. Whatcha see bro?
I feel like scum have been buttering you up.

It’s just each time I pick someone as likely butterer I get no where
Datisi is lock town because you blocked >> could be killer but doubt it

There is no resistance to you leading which is weird.

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:21 pm
by Titus
In post 2731, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2725, Titus wrote:Math, stop talking about balance and go by play alone. Whatcha see bro?
I feel like scum have been buttering you up.

It’s just each time I pick someone as likely butterer I get no where
Datisi is lock town because you blocked >> could be killer but doubt it

There is no resistance to you leading which is weird.
This situation is weird, which is why I am pleading with you for moonlogic.

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:22 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2728, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 0, tris wrote:DkKoba
Gamma Emerald
Datisi
MathBlade
Aristeia
Titus
Lukewarm
ChaosOmega
Not_Mafia
Gamma and chaos both got results, so not them.

Koba has been cleared, and would not have been the night kill, so not him.

I would not have been surprised if you had jailed me after the lolhammer, but I doubt the scum team ever targets me after the lolhammer, and a kill stopped. So not me.

So : dats again, math, Ari, nm are the options imo.

Dats could have been the kill target again, trying to put smart you protecting one of the investigatives (and failing)

I really think nm is town, but also never getting shot. So taking him off again.

So my guess is either Ari or math.

Gth, it's math. Final answer
I don’t remember Gamma saying he had results then but if he did he wasn’t blocked.

So then assuming you’re all town then I would go with Ari here first as scum? Like the logic seems sound

I just don’t think it’s right by mechanics and gut

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:22 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2732, Titus wrote:
In post 2731, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2725, Titus wrote:Math, stop talking about balance and go by play alone. Whatcha see bro?
I feel like scum have been buttering you up.

It’s just each time I pick someone as likely butterer I get no where
Datisi is lock town because you blocked >> could be killer but doubt it

There is no resistance to you leading which is weird.
This situation is weird, which is why I am pleading with you for moonlogic.
My moonlogic is Datisi is scum killer.

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:24 pm
by Titus
In post 2734, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2732, Titus wrote:
In post 2731, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2725, Titus wrote:Math, stop talking about balance and go by play alone. Whatcha see bro?
I feel like scum have been buttering you up.

It’s just each time I pick someone as likely butterer I get no where
Datisi is lock town because you blocked >> could be killer but doubt it

There is no resistance to you leading which is weird.
This situation is weird, which is why I am pleading with you for moonlogic.
My moonlogic is Datisi is scum killer.
Going to tell you that this moonlogic is actually impossible. It's the only moonlogic that is. You'd put no kill before Datisi scum.

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:26 pm
by MathBlade
Like I doubt it but I don’t see things fitting unless one in Chaos or Gamma or Datisi is scum.

I don’t see Chaos lying about being informed there because outed as soon as two scum with guns flip so likely true regardless of alignment.

Leaves Gamma and Dat and mechanically Datisi has the biggest chance of being scum.

Pedit: not sure how? If you’re jailkeeper you have to block Datisi to save him yeah?

*confused*

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:28 pm
by Titus
In post 2736, MathBlade wrote:I don’t see Chaos lying about being informed there because outed as soon as two scum with guns flip so likely true regardless of alignment.
As long as his partner doesn't flip before him, he's fine with this claim.

I'd have Gamma check Chaos to secure our pool possibly. Not sure.

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:29 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2737, Titus wrote:
In post 2736, MathBlade wrote:I don’t see Chaos lying about being informed there because outed as soon as two scum with guns flip so likely true regardless of alignment.
As long as his partner doesn't flip before him, he's fine with this claim.

I'd have Gamma check Chaos to secure our pool possibly. Not sure.
I guess it works if Chaos is traitor only. Then he just instantly loses if a buddy is flipped anyway.

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:30 pm
by MathBlade
Assuming three scum like Datisi suggested

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:31 pm
by Titus
In post 2738, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2737, Titus wrote:
In post 2736, MathBlade wrote:I don’t see Chaos lying about being informed there because outed as soon as two scum with guns flip so likely true regardless of alignment.
As long as his partner doesn't flip before him, he's fine with this claim.

I'd have Gamma check Chaos to secure our pool possibly. Not sure.
I guess it works if Chaos is traitor only. Then he just instantly loses if a buddy is flipped anyway.
True, but how would he know he wasn't blocked as the traitor?

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:32 pm
by MathBlade
It just seems like such a far fetched claim to be fake.

Pedit: His buddy would have to do the kill not him. So since no kill he could assume his buddy was blocked maybe?

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:35 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 2729, Datisi wrote:
In post 2726, Gamma Emerald wrote:I could see maybe 4 scum with (traitor, traitor neighbor, neighbor goon, doctor) perhaps working
i have a feeling i've seen mastina say somewhere that she hates 4-scum mini normals. i can try to find it later, but i don't think it's likely she'd design a game like that
Oh was she a reviewer? Ngl that makes me more inclined to just forget about what’s balanced or not since she always explains her thought process from the review postgame

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:36 pm
by Datisi
In post 0, tris wrote:designed by mastina!! reviewed by Something_Smart!!

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:38 pm
by Titus
Mod: Would a mafia joat with a doctor come back as having a gun?

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:41 pm
by DkKoba
In post 2670, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2664, ChaosOmega wrote:I'm an informed gunsmith. N1 Umlaut has a gun, N2 Koba no gun, N3 Gamma has a gun.

I am informed that only one mafia has a gun, which is why I've been bringing up traitors throughout the game.
Well in this case Koba actually is town, since Koba is vanilla, and has no gun; this means that there is no role combination Koba can be in order to be mafia without a gun. So while I’m still disappointed in them, Koba is conf town now at least
eat crow

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:43 pm
by DkKoba
also we're turbo eliminiating luke today

And i said alch was town amd yall rushed that shit.

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:43 pm
by MathBlade
In post 2745, DkKoba wrote:
In post 2670, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2664, ChaosOmega wrote:I'm an informed gunsmith. N1 Umlaut has a gun, N2 Koba no gun, N3 Gamma has a gun.

I am informed that only one mafia has a gun, which is why I've been bringing up traitors throughout the game.
Well in this case Koba actually is town, since Koba is vanilla, and has no gun; this means that there is no role combination Koba can be in order to be mafia without a gun. So while I’m still disappointed in them, Koba is conf town now at least
eat crow
?? Why are you saying to Gamma eat crow ??

*confusion level rising if that is even possible*

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:44 pm
by DkKoba
also i confirm im vt if it isnt clear

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:45 pm
by Gamma Emerald
If you’re going to continue being unpleasant and acting like your play was perfectly fine then I’m very likely just avoiding you from now on, because you still thought “these people are being cagey so they have to be scum because there’s ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY NO POSSIBLE UNIVERSE where they’re PRs right?”