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[Enchant]

Sure, take care.

I wanted to hammer personally anyway.

[Almost50]

@Norwee: Deal.

[Something_Smart]

Something_Smart!!!! I know you're around, you're the nicest one here, tell me, is it a good idea to drag out D2, or just end it now?

Well my opinion is that T3 is guiltied scum and if that's accurate, then it should be ended now.

I don't think anyone has put together a well-reasoned counterargument; some people want to keep him alive despite agreeing that he's scum which is utterly silly with a follower around. And he doesn't really seem interested in saving himself, so... I'm thinking you can end it.

And ninja'd by the unvote lol. I think it still holds though?

[Something_Smart]

If T3 is scum it's better to have him out of the way so Enchant can maybe get another guilty.

If T3 is town it's better to know that asap.

Sounds like a win-win to me

[Andante]

Sure, take care.

I wanted to hammer personally anyway.

hammer is a scary responsibility, like, just knowing if it's wrong or too early, then more yelling? nahhhh not about that

[Andante]

Something_Smart!!!! I know you're around, you're the nicest one here, tell me, is it a good idea to drag out D2, or just end it now?

Well my opinion is that T3 is guiltied scum and if that's accurate, then it should be ended now.

I don't think anyone has put together a well-reasoned counterargument; some people want to keep him alive despite agreeing that he's scum which is utterly silly with a follower around. And he doesn't really seem interested in saving himself, so... I'm thinking you can end it.

And ninja'd by the unvote lol. I think it still holds though?

Awww you answered my call!!!
Yeah, like, the counter argument is "we want different scum" but like, I'm sorry, how did day 1 go? yeah..
And hey, I'm no longer the final vote, I'm voting him, sounds like he flips scum, and at the end of the day, we want red gone over green

VOTE: T3

[NorwegianboyEE]

Trying to consider worst case scenario here.

If T3 is town, then that means he decided to fake claim an protective PR with 3 shots... as an VT. When he was put to E-1 and at close threat to elimination.
And then when April claimed simple doctor, everyone was questioning if it made sense for there to be two protective roles and their synergy together, and T3 then instead of outing and helping town understand that he was just an VT. Simply stayed quiet and did nothing to help us.
And then when outed by Enchant to have been protected by an doctor and that he didn't target anyone he now finally claims VT.

...Yeah, just kill it.

[Andante]

I mean hey, if he's town, by the same logic as yesterday "It's just a VT. it's fine!!"

[Andante]

Oh, with my vote, he's E-1

[Enchant]

I wish i didn't claim. Really hoped to get T3 killed somehow without it. Thankfully my idiocy protects me from NKs mostly.

But seems like claim was too good and i just went mad from obsession, especislly when T3 started dodging questions. Probably me to blame, i am pretty short with temper. Would be more useful.

So anyway i need to sleep. I will hammer tomorrow, unless someone comes and steal it.

[T3]

I GET ACCUSED OF DODING QUESTIONS EVERY GAME AS BOTH ALIGNMENTS

[T3]

My BG claim was dumb tbh

[T3]

I do have a history of doing extremely dumb claims as town

[Andante]

My BG claim was dumb tbh

lol you think?

I do have a history of doing extremely dumb claims as town

I mean, I'm really not buying you being town right now, like it's your final chance to sway people, and you're just like "yeah it was dumb, I do dumb stuff as town" you know, that's quite the defense. Let me say. You're E-1 now, don't even seem to care. I don't remember what the vote was on you yesterday to make you claim BG, idk, feels very different now, and self preservation earlier as a VT?? ehhhh if you're town, I honestly don't even feel bad about this, I felt good about limming you yesterday too lol note to self, even if person I sr claims a pr, TUNNEL LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW!!! XD

[NorwegianboyEE]

Where is Geraint btw? I feel like his last post was days ago.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sorry, staying at SiL's this weekend so less time to post.

I am more than happy to have T3 on the block. I confess I found their claim suspicious initially, but everyone else thought it was fine so I went with everyone else.
But, my main reason for not believing the claim was a total misunderstanding of the wiki - I thought it was a one shot ability for a normal game and claiming 3 shot made it mot possible. I am an idiot.

Oh nvm.

[osuka]

why are you getting intentionally obtuse

I am not the one arguing both ways of my mouth. YOU were looking for outs for T3, yet YOU are arguing he might be a Scum PR (which -btw- would make the scum team ALL PRs)

im missing out on how the scum team would be all PRs if t3 was scum pr, but i'm only pointing out that the reasoning in that push was flawed

[osuka]

i also honestly just misread the voyeur-follower claim and the first bit i wrote actually just doesn't apply anymore because the voyeur saw t3 not being visited, so we actually do know for a fact that he didn't do anything as opposed to being roleblocked

[osuka]

Yeah, I’m just paranoid, i feel. I’m gonna trust it, and then die before it matters anyways.

T3, Andante with one of Dwlee, Osuka makes sense, and I generally want to believe Dwlee is town, but covering the bases

you sr osuka for not talking? interesting

when did they say that?

[osuka]

is it like unavoidable for you to misrep?

[osuka]

andante's biological imperatives: eating food, drinking water, sleeping, and misrepping everyone in games of mafia

[osuka]

Yeah, I’m just paranoid, i feel. I’m gonna trust it, and then die before it matters anyways.

T3, Andante with one of Dwlee, Osuka makes sense, and I generally want to believe Dwlee is town, but covering the bases

you sr osuka for not talking? interesting

think you get better results if you ask directly why someone has another person as POE

No one even takes me seriously so ehhh, anytime I try and do something I get yelled at and it's all "you must be scum for that!!!" so meh

the reason nobody's taking you seriously is because you haven't said anything worthy of being taken seriously for the entire day

[osuka]

UNVOTE:

why???

[osuka]

Something_Smart!!!! I know you're around, you're the nicest one here, tell me, is it a good idea to drag out D2, or just end it now?

Well my opinion is that T3 is guiltied scum and if that's accurate, then it should be ended now.

I don't think anyone has put together a well-reasoned counterargument; some people want to keep him alive despite agreeing that he's scum which is utterly silly with a follower around. And he doesn't really seem interested in saving himself, so... I'm thinking you can end it.

And ninja'd by the unvote lol. I think it still holds though?

see this is where i have a problem with the push - i do think t3 is scummy, even if not as much as andante, but how is there a guilty there? the voyeur-follower slot confirmed that he didn't do anything and it wasn't because of a roleblock, and he himself admitted to having fakeclaimed. is that all there is? that doesn't actually make a guilty

[osuka]

like this whole push just kinda reeks