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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:04 pm
by Faker
In post 2669, skitter30 wrote:But there's a large-ish group of players (gamma/you, marci, tuf, pav, beat yestersay) that are surface-level scummy
I have not read a word of Gamma's posting but this smells like garbage.

Since I know you know that I can be aggressive in wording without intending it personally, I'll take the liberty: After skimming marci/Fruit I think this surface-level scummy claim and grouping is absolutely disgusting.

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:05 pm
by Faker
I considered holding off to see how you'd react to my replace-in and initial reads, but it feels like you're mostly standing pat and waiting to see if you have to go aggressive. I could probably get more out of it, but hiding my cards isn't my favorite and I'd rather pre-emptively nip something like that in the bud.

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:11 pm
by marcistar
is skitter not ususally this aggressive/

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:13 pm
by skitter30
I was explaining the general state of the universe rn, and how those slots are perceived given that they were the focus of many players, and that people were wanting to sr them (and/or wagon them) for what i found to be meh reasons

I initally started off townreading marci and tuf and kinda gamma
I waa then scumreading like all
In the last irl day or two i've gone back to thinking marci/tuf are probably town and that i have no compelling reason to sr gamma or flip him

Which is why i'm presently on pav

I was explaining my difficulties with the game, and why i think the 'just flip through them' strategy is not wise

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:13 pm
by skitter30
I think i'm being less aggressive than i often am

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:13 pm
by marcistar
wait am i high

i meant to say is skitter ususally aggressive

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:14 pm
by Faker
Depends on the situation, last time I replaced into a game that was mostly under her control she didn't have a great time...though
my
replacement in turn wound up posing 5x the issue I did.

I also tend to have her in nullscum at all times so shrug.

I'm about to head out for the night, I own a flip phone so I can't read on this long ass car ride anymore.

I'm not confident in my ability to read Pavowski but that can be my next project. After that I'd probably read Meuh. I'm really curious if myself, Pav, and Fruit are really the only options because I don't buy two of those at a minimum.

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:16 pm
by skitter30
I mean my entire argument this dayphase has been tuf/marci/pav/gamma are the widely sr slots and i think there's max 2 scum in there, but more likely 1

I also gotta bounce for the weekend, have a great weelend everyone!

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:17 pm
by Coral
I don't think we're very locked in to a certain set of options at this time, those are just the main wagons of the day so far. we've given Queen Ari our blessing to choose anyone, though

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:17 pm
by Pavowski
In post 2723, Faker wrote:
In post 2720, Pavowski wrote:
In post 2718, The Ugly Fruit wrote:Just noted down that Worst got replaced by Coral
Good night everybody
Do you think this has any bearing on alignment? I think the earlier posts to me make it appear legitimate, though it is tempting to work back through the post-worst ISO to doublecheck.
Not particularly, no

It has been posited before that TuF must be town because of posts like this, so in that way, maybe. But in and of itself, no

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:17 pm
by Faker
I still feel like that weighed in very little on Gamma. Perhaps there's more in your ISO for me to read, but you were noticeably silent on my point that reading Gamma is more reliable than reading me at basically any point in the game. You should be fairly familiar with his meta and play; surface-level scummy isn't a surprise for people who haven't played with him before. It's straightforward to exploit that trait as scum.

Either way, will circle back later, dinnertime then car ride.

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:19 pm
by skitter30
In post 2731, Faker wrote:Depends on the situation, last time I replaced into a game that was mostly under her control she didn't have a great time...though my replacement in turn wound up posing 5x the issue I did.
I'm completely blanking, what is this?
(If its on ur main that's fine, you dont have to link or anything)

Pedit i'm having a hard time coming to a confident read on gamma too. Yeah my read on him is prob better than my read on u, but i dont want to bet on it

If i had to pick he's town but not confident in that
I've also been saying this for a lot of the game

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:20 pm
by skitter30
*but i dont want to bet on my read on gamma

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:20 pm
by Coral
I think skitter's interactions with gamma (not necessarily directly, more with other people about gamma) have been both extensive and probably meaningful in some way that I am not sure on. It's been a subject of discussion at multiple points. Maybe you will have ideas since you're coming from a different perspective :)

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:23 pm
by skitter30
In post 2735, Faker wrote:You should be fairly familiar with his meta and play; surface-level scummy isn't a surprise for people who haven't played with him before. It's straightforward to exploit that trait as scum.
Also for context i've been objecting to his wagon for a lot of the wagon, people have actually been partner-reading me with him

I dont think anyone would argue that i'm exploiting his surface-level scumminess to try to flip him

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:26 pm
by Isis
In post 2683, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 2493, marcistar wrote:theres been some posts where shes started out vaguely game related, but then it turns into word vomit.
i dont really like that sort of stuff, since it seems distracting from the point but shes done it more than once it seems a bit like a personality thing

i feel like shes a possible partner to a couple people.

i feel like theres been times where... she only really thinks things as it becomes a semitalked about topic.

keeps repeating the same point "red flips arent that bad" i feel like once is enough but its just filling more space and faking the busyness the more and more its said
In post 821, Isis wrote:I feel like Cakez has too many reads that all dropped at once, feels more like press releases from a PR team than a solo journalist you dig
very much a read dropped and then forgotten about until her update of "i dont think that anymore" but like ?? amazing progression on that is shown where? it feels like a very back of the mind read

was pretty weird timing for that read on gamma

i didnt like her hammer on beat

with afterwards feels weird

i dont like what shes done with those reads after shes posted
like "i think gamma has teammates" seems pretty confident of a read, but settles for beat? IDK

just the way she phrases things
like "nO wAy I cAnT eLiM wHo I wAnT sO i'Ll GiVe Up AnD gO fOr ThIs InStEaD" like at that point she seemed fairly confident on her skitter read so why not go for what ur heart wants :)
i think usually townies like to think they'll always be right, and like to push people they super believe in being scum, so i dont get why she keeps rolling over.

- :good: -

im not good at this stuff im sorry :cry: its mostly just vibes and then i went to try and find the vibes and then tried to explain why i had the vibes but idk if this is exactly what ive been meaning
just say its vibes and thats it :good: :good:
to her credit marci did post this case on Isis and then most people ignored it rip

I've been hoping I'd organically start to feel some kind of decided way about it one way or the other but I'm truly mixed, it gives me a genuine vibe tonally but it was produced under duress and I don't really agree with the read on Isis and could imagine some of these points being faked. I think what I like about it is it doesn't feel too forced or too specifically made to appease or convince people, but it's not enough for me to decidedly townbin marci
What I like about it is it's about me

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:30 pm
by Isis
Spoiler:
Image

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:33 pm
by Aristeia
omg its gorgeous

best post so far this game

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:34 pm
by Aristeia
i abdicate the throne to isis because her tiara is too pretty to be scum

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:35 pm
by marcistar
MY PRETTY PRINCESS KITTY I LOVE HER

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:36 pm
by Isis
In post 2690, marcistar wrote:
In post 2683, GuiltyLion wrote:was produced under duress
whats duress mean

dress?!??! heck yeah i should try on my dresses :cool:
In post 2711, Faker wrote:the worst scumrolls are the mafia equivalent of a "Luigi does nothing and wins" playlist.

This man perpetually finds himself in situations where the town are poring over each other's elementary school disciplinary records, clawing through rain-soaked garbage bags stolen in the middle of the night in search of each other's discarded receipts, going on massive 24 hour reading benders. Meanwhile the worst turns off his computer and sits his scum ass in a nice lawn chair munching on blueberries all day and comes back to a big fat W.
In post 2712, Faker wrote:Oh if he left that's a townroll okay we're saved
Oh god I love this sequence of posts

This struggling game has had its moments

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:37 pm
by Isis
I didn't mean to include marcistar's post but it was also enjoyable so

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:38 pm
by Isis
In post 2713, Coral wrote:yes, I am the worst now :)
You're the best : pleading:

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:39 pm
by Isis
That discord emote doesn't match its name perfectly

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:39 pm
by marcistar
:pensive: im not as loved as faker i see how it be...

yall didnt even ask for an update on if i liked the dresses... :pensive::v: fake friends everywhere...