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Also you didn't say my name ONCE in that whole catch-up post except to question Gandalf's lame ass excuse to suspect me.

SO I'M NOT COMMENTING ON IT.

Vote Count:

quadz08: 7

(inHimshallibe, Nautilius, xRECKONERx, Fate, Devotress, Midnight's Sorrow, Chronopie)

dramonic: 5

(KDub, PranaDevil, bv310, gandalf5166, Zazier)

gandalf5166: 2

(Vamparific, dramonic)

Chronopie: 1

(bill1148)

Devotress: 1

(Nero Cain)

Not Voting:

JPSalazar
quadz08

Lynch:

10 votes.

Deadline:

July 22nd - 8:00 PM EST

But I've caught scum and I'm telling why. So I'm giving what you want. And as reward, I'm getting ignored?
Betting this is all xRECK's fault

Anyway, I did post about Mitsuru. As for Charlie, I was going to kill him. He got lucky. But there's no point in telling what I saw. It is very likely good for me and Charlie if I keep it hidden ^.^

Fate wrote: LET'S JUST LYNCH QUADZ I DUNNO IF DRAM IS SCUM WITH HIM YET.

I WAS JUST MAKING BASELESS STATEMENTS TO EASE THE TRANSITION BACK ONTO THE QUADZ WAGON.

Well, okey dokey then. That settles that.

VOTE: Fate

(sorry for the doublepost in advance.)

I can't even believe someone would do that in this game. "I wanna lynch this guy! Here, I know. I'll throw out a baseless statement to get more people to vote for him!" That's just pro-town. [/sarcasm]

I would be alright with a Dram or Fate lynch today. They're both pushing for wagons with very little reasoning behind them, and both are buddying pretty heavily with Reck (to the extent where it's blatantly anti-town). If they aren't scum, they're distractions to scumhunting, and that's almost as bad.

ZazieR wrote:@Billy
In post 129 you vote for Chrono based upon being wagony. So why no other comments against other votes that can be seen as wagony?

A few reasons. First, when I intially voted for Chrono, it was before most of the other "wagon" votes on quad. The thing that hurts Chrono though is that my last game with him is still on my mind- he was wagony as hell in that game (where he was scum). In the case of bv, I have had the experience of playing with him as a scum team-mate before, and as such I feel more aware of his tendencies. Although I have only played one game with him, in that particular game, bv really hardly posted at all. bv was fairly pro-town for the first half of this day phase, though his obvious as-of-late disappearance has hurt him.

Billy catches my attention again later on when he’s asking xRECK to elaborate why Dram isn’t scummy. This to me indicates that Bill thinks that Dram is scummy. If so, why no comment on Dram?

That question towards Reck was more so me trying to gain more of a read on Reck, rather than Dram. That said, I do find dram somewhat suspicious. To answer the second question, there is little reason for me to say what has already been so well said by Devo & Prana.

PS: call me Billy ever again. Else I'll just ignore you next time.

Nautilius:
I'm not going to get bullied onto a wagon just because you and Fate want me to. I asked for a good reason, I didn't get one.

dram:
If you are pushing gandalf for not doing anything, what is your opinion of Chrono/JP/inHim?

Traveling for the next day or so, will post again either tomorrow evening or Monday.

If one more person tries to say that the CAPS LAWK/buttsecks alliances are obvbuddying I'm going to slam my head against a brick wall. You guys are seriously reetahdud.

Why is quadz still breathing?

Yeah I was about to say.

No more steam on this here quadz wagon he's pretty fail at teh hunting of scumz but he hasn't exploded scummily like I'd expect him too.


TEACH YOU TO V/LA AND NOT COMMENT BITCH

FATE I KNOW WHO YOU ARE
BACK OFF DRAM OR I'LL REVEAL YOUR ALT

BULLSHIT.

I'M CALLING YOUR BLUFF.

OH DO YOU WANT ME TO REVEAL IT
DO YOU
CUZ I CAN

YOU CAN THANK KISE

What's with people defending others so strongly here? You know something we don't Reck? (And I mean actual, important, worthwhile stuff for this game. Not bollocks like alt's that I don't give a toss about).

Yo Reck if its who I think it is, you can just keep it to yourself thanks

Your defense of dram goes beyond this 'alliance' and it stinks like scum

I don't know if it goes beyond the "alliance," but I do know that it's highly, highly anti-town.

Also:

What's with people defending others so strongly here? You know something we don't Reck? (And I mean actual, important, worthwhile stuff for this game. Not bollocks like alt's that I don't give a toss about).

QFT.

Please, guys. Play the game like it's supposed to be played. You're not helping us find scum. (Unless you are scum, in which case, keep it up! You're doing great!)

@Quadz
-Opinion on xRECK please.
-Could you comment on each vote you've received so far?

@Billy
First things first. You are Billy. Live with it. Ignoring me is the dumbest move you can make.
Anyway, I'd like to have a little bit of mafia theory with you. One game says nothing about a player. I can give many examples. But to keep it short, I'll keep it with Chrono for now. How do you know he always plays like that as scum? How do you know he doesn't do the same as town? These can't be answered based upon one game.
Might have more on this later on, but for now, one question: How come you've never asked Chrono for his reason(s) to vote Quadz?
I'm also interested in hearing what your definition is when you state that somebody is being wagony.

Due to your post, I have a request: Please state reasons why the players listed as 'need to be looked into' should be looked into.
Talking about this, I find it interesting that you think they should be looked into, yet you do nothing to do so. The only player who you've questioned is xRECK who didn't make your list, which raises the question: Was this due to you liking his answer or was he never on that list to begin with. Please explain why you aren't looking at those players.
Back to the real post I was responding to, do you also want to explain why you didn't feel the need to comment on Dram as it was already stated by other players, while you did feel the need to comment on a post from Quadz which was also commented on by other players?

xRECKONERx wrote:If one more person tries to say that the CAPS LAWK/buttsecks alliances are obvbuddying I'm going to slam my head against a brick wall. You guys are seriously reetahdud.

Why is quadz still breathing?

No worries, xRECK. As you should have read, I'm not stating that it's obvbuddying. I'm only stating that it seems you're misusing the 'alliances'.
Just repeating this as it was posted in a whole paragraph aimed at you with questions and the like, which you didn't respond to. To help you out, a nice little quote for you:

Zaz wrote:Not liking xRECK as well. He gives me the impression of mis-using his ‘alliances’. Also, his BV vote is so scummy. Following a weak case is your reason, xRECK? But what did you do when you voted Gandalf, which was based upon a misrep?
Talking about that vote of yours, how come you didn’t spot Dram’s misrep?
Also, now that you know Dram’s vote was ‘wrong’, what’s your opinion on it? Did it come from Dram-town or Dram-scum and why?

Oh, and Quadz town. That's why.
You on the other hand look scummy scummy scummy. Your latest posts aren't helping you. And especially due to them, you should respond to the above quote of mine. We'll discuss this further after you've responded.

And Gandalf needs to show up as well. He's on my scumlist. My whip wants to have some fun time with you, so please show up.

Because I'm not really paying attention.

So you're defending Dram for absolutely zero reason, are pushing heavily for a Quadz wagon, again for absolutely no reason, and have just admitted to not paying attention?



Scummy enough as it is, but even at the very worst, we're left with people who are paying attention.

I'm defending dram because I don't think he's scum, I just think he has a weak case.

And I'll push any wagon on D1 except for my town reads.

eh... would have went there eventually.

Also, I don't really like the dram/Reck connection. Reck is a pretty experienced player and I don't think he'd make the mistake of emphasizing that dram is town if he and dram were scum buddies. Reck and Fate, , given that the excuse of "lol CAPS buddies" can be easily used. dram and Reck have more "serious" interactions.

Granted, it is possible that Reck has zero read on dram and just wants him around as an opportunity to play more with him (as he mentioned earlier that one of them were always killed early). But for the time being, I recommend trusting Reck.

AWWWW BILL <3

I feel like this game is kinda...blegh right now. I'd like to lynch quadz and gain information from the flip and subsequent night kills.

bill1148 wrote:for the time being, I recommend trusting Reck.

For what reason? What has he done that means you should trust him when he's just admitted to not even paying attention? If he can't trust his own judgement through not paying attention, how can anyone else trust it is beyond me.

I think he means trust me as in I'm town.

That still makes no sense. Town should be paying attention to the game and finding information from what's being posted. The fact you're not paying attention means it's impossible to suggest you are "definite" town, unless he has some other outside influence...