Mafiascum.net

this caps lock thing feels really unnatural from andrius.

272's pretty cool, who's scum?

272 is really dry and didn't have any information with it
what was your action n0 andrius?

Jesus fucking christ, 12 pages already?

No noise. Not ward.

/pre-read vote

Dear Lost Butterfly,

If this is Faraday: <3
If this is Mina: Hi, I'm Andy.

CAPS LAWKE RAGE is due to WHATSHISNAME and his actions in [REDACTED-ON GOING GAME] that were so fail-tastic as town. Like, SHIT DUDE. YOU DO NOT LIE AS TOWN OR FAKECLAIM AND THEN CLAIM THE MOST IMPORTANT PR EVER AND EXPECT US TO BELIEVE YOU. GAWD YOU FAILED SO HARD THERE.

I'll get back to you on the scumbags. I've got definite reads here I just haven't finished the read and I asked a couple Qs that had As provided later on. Don't want to look as dumb as WHATSHISNAME now do I? Going to read, get my Qs answered, and get back with a post of WHOOP-ASS.

<3,



p.s. WHERE IS VAS.

p.p.s. WE SRSLY CLAIMING N0 ACTIONS LIEK SRS BSNS OR IS WHATSHISNAME JUST TRYING TO BE ALL HIGH AND MIGHTY?

GAWD. LET RC RUN THE TOWN; HE DOES A MUCH BETTER JOB, EVEN AS VOLDEMORT.

Look SpyreX, I thought Furcolow was obvtown and everything until THIS TRAIN WRECK HAPPENED:

there is no trainwreck
i am town
if you feel i am not town, let me address it in a short post as opposed to a fucking wall of text i probably wont read

sottyrulez wrote:Too much Benmage and Fate back and forth.

Vote: Magna

Love this post. HAHA. But vote Seacore, we'll win a lot easier with him gone.

Furcolow wrote:at this point i'm considering stalking and killing benmage if he doesnt carry out his kill
waste your vig....... on a cult.......
you don't fucking need it, there are 75% investigators, you're not a fucking hero

ROFL! I love this too. This is 100% gold. Which is why we are NOT lynching Furc today (or maybe, any other day either).

rewq455 wrote:

ReaperCharlie wrote:I HEARD NOISE.

I warded you. I ahve heard that you are a good player, and last game a player stalked a player for being one. Want to try and keep you alive until you appear to be scum.

oh. thanks. good to know. and yeaaa... the likelyhood of me being scum is about 0%. well, maybe 0.5% if I decide to be a murderer, which is extremely unlikely, esp given the mod's note that the win condition is near impossible.

also hay furc why do you say that VP baltar is cult? i musta missed somethin...

I agree with Fate's #142 for the most part, about the way Seacore responded to being 'confirmed town' vs hito. I suppose by that vein, I am 'confirmed town' as well?

NO YOU IDIOTS. NOBODY IS CONFIRMED TOWN JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY HEARD NOISE AND SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS THEY WARDED THEM. ARE YOU GUYS OUT OF YOUR F%&$ING MINDS? ALL IT MEANS IS THAT THEY CLAIMED TO HAVE HEARD NOISE AND SOMEBODY ELSE CLAIMS TO HAVE WARDED THEM. IT PROVES NOTHING. GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR %$#&$!# @$$ES!!!

Bowser wrote:

Mod: I believe Fate either needs to be replaced, or be given a severe warning. His posts are breaking the civility line a lot.

BOO HOO. CRY ME A RIVER BUILD A BRIDGE AND GET THE F%$& OVER IT.

hitogoroshi wrote:Ben: Making them lose an action, lose a res. kit, confirming you as town (unless they decide not to perform the ritual) AND letting us lynch someone else today - that's a pretty sweet deal for the low, low price of one insanity. Seems to me that the biggest reason to oppose that is "I actually used Craft Fetish and not Stalk." Savvy?

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

somebody hand this man a dozen roses.

I'm looking at you, fate



I was ninja'd by..... TWENTY FOUR POSTS. no lie.

k, 25. dam# u furc

Well, that should have been, like 6 pages if it weren't for the ultra ridiculous Fate v. Benmage drama. Please return the 10 minutes of my life that I lost reading that bullshit.

Anyway, , opportunistic scum. I mean, really.

Bowser wrote:Fate, your behavior is clearly anti-town.

Unvote; Vote: Fate

Benmage is town.

^obvious scum here.

(Hey Andy!)

Or, I could be a smart Investigator, and has a brain....... i wonder....

"1) sorry to be so abrasive, but you all feel lost when I'm typically the lost-VI
2) I feel as if I understand the game completely, or moreso than others, however, even if not completely
3) We need to coordinate who we should lynch, our actions tomorrow night, and get more information on who heard noise
Q) What are everyones' thoughts on everyone stalking and killing one person? I feel this could help the town.
"
^Useless post, as pointed out by somewhat, with the "more NKs are good for town" throwin it out there caveat at the end.


"
are u trying to get a brolliance with me/rc?
im so up for that
vote: seacore
lets get this pahtay stahted!"

Seacore is town though.

"oh, nice, ward is numero uno.
yeah, fate, ward or res plz"

"addict!

also, rc, consider protecting wickedestjr (or anyone who acquired res kit)
"
PR direction plain and fucking simple. IIRC wicked didn't even hear noise last night.



......

Ah fuck it, I was going to turn these all into quotes and shit, but then I re-read his whole "Ward drippereth" thing and if that's faked we're as good as fucked anyway.

I still don't like the way he jumped from "I REMEMBERED THE 1/4 RULE FROM PERCY LAST TIME, PERCY SAME MOD LOL" TOOOOo "I READ THE RULES I KNEW 7 SCUM THAT WAY" WAY TOO QUICKLY. Read as scum overeager to explain their slip (knowing how many scum there are)

SpyreX wrote:And the "ohhh 5/7 cult flavor" dancing mechanics?

And NOW a reread?

And saying Ben is the scummiest but because he might kill Fate its not worth a vote?

Come on now.

1) I'm not going to ignore something that looks like it could come from cult just because I have a town-read on someone. I made it clear that I didn't think he was cult. What's the problem?

2) I just read ~10 pages in one go. It's almost 1am. I am not re-reading until tomorrow.

3) Because he WILL kill Fate if we don't lynch Fate, and that would confirm him as town (as I understand it) - or be exposed as a liar. Since he can't die tonight anyway, I'd rather be cautious and let the guy who CAN confirm himself as town do that, if he is in fact town.

@ RC: YOU IGNORED THE LINE I WROTE JUST FOR YOU.

@ VAS: HEY VAS. I'll GIVE YOU A NIGHT TO SEARCH FOR ENYTHING SPECIAL I C POSSIBILITIES FOR US TO WORK TOGETHER. DONT USE ME LIKE A TOOL BRO.



WILL BE GOING TO DINNER NAO.

I agree with SpyreX though that MANY PEOPLE have reached nigh-100% town status, and that this list should not be made today.

I'll, just for fucking giggles, I'm going to ONCE AGAIN try to get it through Benmage's thick scull that he's wrong:

Wish me luck.

rc, how come you buddy up to me, yet cast suspicions i'm confirmed?
i'll be the first to admit i'm not confirmed to anyone but myself, though
i am still going to win this game for the town regardless of whether or not im confirmed. feel free to ride my coattails

i didnt read the rules to get 7 scum
i did 7 + 7 + 7 + 7 = 28 so there are 7 scum
i knew it was 1/4th
it was 1/4th last time
that's why i've been saying there are 75% investigators

i also got the 5/7 cultists for elevated ritual stat... so i'm obviously decent at picking math out of rules...

i'm eyeballing everyone who is halfway trying to cast suspicion on me (fate, rc)
if someone (like andrius) is completely fucking against me, though, they are probably town
scum are a little nervous to wagon the most confirmed, which isn't confirmed, and whoever said there wasn't a gray-area needs to re-analyze how to play this game, especially in lylo situations where you have to grasp at the grass to not fall off the cliff.

ebwop: sort of agreeing with aurorusvox, but his posts so far have been squirmy, so i'm suspicious of him

AurorusVox wrote:

Benmage wrote:@Aurora fate prob. Did whatever the cult wanted him to do.

Why would he PTW for cult, but not for town?

There's a problem with warding/rezzing in circles, and that's if the cult uses the Greater Ritual, since it would take two rezzes to stop the kill going through.

This was an EXCELLENT point, and Benmage ignores it of course.

BENMAGE YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR FUCKIN CAKE AND EAT IT TOO.

HERE'S THE FALLACY:

YOU SAY "FATE WOULD DO THIS AS TOWN, AND HE DIDN'T THEREFORE SCUM"
BUT YOU DON'T GO FURTHER AND SAY "FATE WOULD DO THIS AS CULT, BUT HE DIDN'T THEREFORE TOWN."

AND THEN REALIZE N0 WAS NULL.

THE FACTS ARE IF I WERE CULT I'D KNEW YOU WERE GUNNING FOR ME AND NOT LET YOU STALK ME SO EASILY/LET YOUR STUPID FATE-LYNCHER WINCON SURVIVE. <-DON'T IGNORE THIS POINT, AND IF YOU WANT TO SAY THIS TO REFUTE IT AGAIN:

"obvcult told him to"

THEN YOUR META IS EVEN MORE FAIL. IF AM CULT THEN THE CULT IS DOING WHAT I WANT THEM TO. I DON'T JUST SHEEP AROUND "K HERP DERP LETS DO THIS" I SAY "BENMAGES GOT A HARD ON FOR ME, HE'LL INVESTIGATE/STALK/KILL ME ASAP, SO LETS TAKE CARE OF THAT CLOWN."


NOT TO MENTION THIS:

Nvm on the fate should Ward thing...not saying he don't have to tho.

Fate, mind claiming what you did do last night?

FIRST YOU TELL ME HOW TO ACTION TONIGHT, HOW THE FUCK DOES THIS WORK IF IM OBVCULTCAUGHT?

THEN YOU ASK ME TO CLAIM, WHICH MAKES NO SENSE IF YOU THINK IM LYING CULT ANYWAY.

Btw since Aurous brought up such an excellent point I'm actually goin to have to go this direction instead:

Damn, I wake up and it's 8 pages. Get the earlyy morning school stuff out of the way and it's like 10 pages.

Anyway.

Furcolow wrote: I am town, it is obvious I am an investigator, and if you have any fucking questions just ask them instead of voting me. I would request that you make them in posts that have relatively few lines so I don't miss them.


Furthermore, since I didn't hear noise last night, and am an investigator, you all need to keep me alive even moreso. I doubt I will be night killed or even passed a fetish, and I feel I am more confirmed than most.

I don't think you're confirmed yet. From what I've seen all we know is that you claimed to have targeted somone. To be confirmed as having warded then someone would need to admit to a failed action on El Goosuki, and since that action would be either stalk or craft somehow I don't see that happening. If El dies overnight then we know you are lieing. If El survives then we learn nothing about your status. (Second ward/resurection kit/ change of mind etc)

The only person close to being confirmed is Benmage due to his brutal honesty and aparent dislike of Fate, most likely to his eventual detriment.

I hope there's more posts coming from you Baby, cause that.....

well that post contained "Benmage" and "closest to being confirmed" in the same damn sentence without the word "idiot" following confirmed.

So you got a long way to go to impress me.

BOYS! GO TO YOUR ROOMS!

Guess who thinks that over eight pages between my lunchtime and my last period Physics class is way too many.

MagnaofIllusion wrote:I’ve reviewed the player list. Of those players I am familiar with the player I feel is most likely going to be a potential problem long-term for the Investigators (regardless of alignment) is Furcolow. This is based on direct personal experience and the end of Stars Aligned II.

Honestly this is a yes, but thing (with the but including the fact that he did stalk my last scummate and other factors I feel about Furc in general).

Noise claiming: as per experience of replacing into SAII, probably won't hurt much and might help in the long run. Am probably supportive.

Lost Butterfly wrote:I just remembered that there's another juicy benefit to a Noise/No Noise and Ward Target claim, but I won't give it away until after a massclaim.

Color me interested.

Furcolow wrote:

Q: I'm a Cultist. What can I do on Night 0?
A: The first thing you should do is talk to your fellow Cultists in your quicktopic. On the first Night, you should be looking to perform Craft Fetish on multiple targets, as well as choosing Search to get Equipment that will help your side later on (such as a Resuscitation Kit)

funny that you searched for a resuscitation kit when it tells cultists to do that night 0, RC

Oh for goodness' sake, at this point we can't tell if it's null or what. Later in the game we might get a sense of how many Cultists did search for that sort of Equipment and which player who claim to have searched for Equipment Night 0 would be more suspicious. Basically, this may have worth, but not now, so keep it under your hat. Without context it's probably a nulltell.

MagnaofIllusion wrote:His eagerness to confirm himself is noted.

That's pretty typical of Furc in general as far as I know. That you tarted off the game voting him for policy-based reasons I had as null (because it's as good a very very early vote as any, I suppose); that you continue to press certain issues which are inherent in his playstyle (which should be at least somewhat known to you if you read through SAII, no?) worries me.

Hey, RC! <3 - I've forgotten how much I enjoy playing with you. Was it just that short time in Thrillville? Plus helping hash out The Brave and the Beautiful a bit?

Feysal wrote:The way I figured, most of the players who heard noise will have been either stalked or crafted fetishes on, those who were warded will be a minority. Why would you blindly ward someone, with no idea of their alignment?

People who want to go Murderer will be stalking and Cult will be crafting Fetishes on strong players. The strong players, generally, have %75 chance of being Town in general, right? Ward is a good way to help minimize the chances of strong Townies being put in positions where they'll be killed or gaining Insanities. Ward is a pretty strong Night choice for Investigators, I think.

MagnaofIllusion wrote:

sottyrulez wrote:Also Furc needs to clear up the ward issue, but based on what he's told us, his target can confirm whether or not they heard noise.

Here's my problem with that - if he is Cult fake-claiming Ward all he has to do is claim to have Warded someone the Cult successfully crafted a fetish of. His claimed target is very likely to have heard noises. If they didn't its even a dumber gambit than I thought it might be. And with Daytalk Cult certainly can coordinate that even if Furc didn't Craft himself.

But if then the Cult can't pass a Fetish of that player or kill that player the next Night without exposing the lying claimed-Warder. It's not confirmatory, but it's a bit more risky for Cult to fake than you might think. EDIT: Feysal saw that too. Why didn't you, MoI?

VP Baltar wrote:I heard noise, which is kind of disconcerting. I think I'm probably a likely target to die early based on my performance last game...which would piss me the hell off since I've been looking forward to this game for awhile now.

Well, now that we know we can figure out how we want to approach the situation at any rate.

VP Baltar wrote:Bowser's vote is opportunistic and silly.

Vote: Bowser

True that.

El Goosuki wrote:Just saying, if furcolow is telling the truth about warding dripperith, then it makes sense as to why he was redirected to us.

Comments later.

I think I see why, yes.

While I'm hear: . I liked Ward but didn't choose it for a specific reason, so.

Furcolow wrote:I'm saying if someone wanted to say "I stalked ____", and then they perform the kill, they are confirmed town
I also said this could be bad if they decide to act pro-town, wait a night or two, and then stalk again when we don't expect it.
That is why I'm against that theory, though it could really benefit us to have confirmed town at all (why I'm not sure about my wagon)

I like this too, don't get me wrong. In general I think it's preferable if Townies who plan on staying that way wait a Night or preferably before making the allowable one Stalk/one Murder - it minimizes the chances of temptation to go Murderer (because missing two Nights would make the wincon almost impossible) and increases the chances of kills hitting scum (more Days = more info to go on). There are multiple players I'd be interested in seeing do this.

SPYREX? FRIEND OF MY HEART? WE BOTH LOVE A GOOD VIG KILL, EVEN IF WE HAVE TO LIMIT OURSELVES TO ONLY ONE, NO? BONUS CONFIRMS YOU TOWN. PLEASE REMEMBER THIS AND GET BACK TO ME IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, 'KAY?

El Goosuki wrote:Hai guys.
Avatar and stuff coming.
We're actually (Elli/DGB/Katsu) not 2 of the 3 or whatever.
Yeah.
More later.

How big do they let Hydras grow these days?

Benmage wrote:

Seacore wrote:

Also, Anybody who took cower night 0 (for whatever reason) needs to claim so immediately.

Really...what a wasted statement. Claiming this is saying "hey I am a huge dumbass".

Nice to see who the big dumbasses are early, methinks.

Since when is Fate a girl? Yeah, I thought so.

Benmage, take the long view plz?

Fate wrote:

El Goosuki wrote:lol

I don't think fate reads rules

I did, it took awhile, and I don't remember all of it.

Are you implying there's no way I can stop Benmage from killing me?

Is there a way someone else can ward me?

Or Rez you.

Bowser wrote:Fate, your behavior is clearly anti-town.

Unvote; Vote: Fate

Benmage is town.

Preview Edit: Yeah. I love my vote now. More votes, please.

VOTE: Bowser

Fate wrote:Seacore's "WHAT ME? CULT WITH FATE?" is off-putting, whereas Hito's "well you can count me as #3" is more relaxed and town.

Now we're talking.

I have a problem. I NEED Benmage to carry out his kill tonight otherwise he drowns us in WIFOM stew. Do not want. On the other hand, am very much leaning Town on Fate. HALP.

Bowser wrote:

Mod: I believe Fate either needs to be replaced, or be given a severe warning. His posts are breaking the civility line a lot.

Furcolow, I can vote you right back. You are high on my scumlist.


1...2....3....4....5....6...7...8 times I got ninja'd.

Scum or idiot or both? And anyway Fate's play has been no more offensive that Benmage's, as far as I can tell. I'd have nearly confirmed Fate-Investigator is Bowser's scum, but I'm getting ahead of myself and indulging in something I generally forbid myself. Well, carry on.

hitogoroshi wrote:"Rising to the occasion" is replacing out YOURSELF if you don't like a player, not trying to beat them out of a game you want to play.

MagnaofIllusion wrote:

To everyone claiming that Fur is 100% cleared – you are deluding yourself.

El Gooski only confirms that he was targeted by some action. It does not guarantee that action was a Ward. It can just as easily be a Craft Fetish action.

You seem to have a fetish regarding Furc (pun intended, sorry, but the point stands).

rewq455 wrote:

Furcolow wrote:

Benmage wrote:

Benmage wrote:Of course my opinion is best only I know myself to be town.

Err I hate phone posting...at work now....I only know my alignment, not others so I don't adhere usually to other influences....and yes I think highly of my abilities.

so you're claiming the majority is not going to be town? when you say that you "don't adhere to other influences", if the entire player list voted, it would be 75% town. It would also show us alignment based upon voting, and this issue is very polarizing so it would help us get information.

encouraging you all to vote on whether or not he should do the kill

... The rules never said how many people are scum

VOTE: Furcolow

Another idiot or scumbag, not even touching the question of how confirmed or note Furc is. Pretty sure the general ratio for these games is around that. This means nothing; it's lazy faked scumhunting as sin. And anyway as AV stated, it does state it, so.

Furcolow wrote:Q) What are everyones' thoughts on everyone stalking and killing one person? I feel this could help the town.

EVERYONE? No. Multiple players, slightly later in the game, monitored with reasonable care? HELL YES. Take a Vig kill which confirms you as Investigator is a win/win once we're fairly sure the Murderer route is untenable for the player in question.

AurorusVox wrote:

Furcolow wrote:kills have flavor

Then I'm for testing Benmage's kill.

Kills have flavor even if Rezzed away, yeah? If so, count me in.

SpyreX - decentish point on AV. I be thinking. I dunno.

ReaperCharlie wrote:

Seacore wrote:In other news, anybody who things I'm cult

with Fate just because I disbelieve Benmage has perfect meta

is a moron.

SEACORE IS SCUM. CULT. WHATEVER. HE NEEDS TO GO.

FATE I'M HERE MAN. I'M WITH YOU.

ANDRIUS, don't knock Furc. Furc can be golden.

Lost Butterfly wrote:this caps lock thing feels really unnatural from andrius.

He does it sometimes, but I've only ever seen him play as scum, really.

Unvote; Vote SEACORE.

MAYYYYYYBE.

SPYREX we need more goodness from you, less I dunno what. Fine analysis, but the spark of life needs fanning maybe.



Bowser wagon is about as good, maybe a bit better than Seacore wagon.

Furc is very prob-Town, RC is good, Fate seems good. Catfighting seems bad.

nice post, plummy
glad the vig-goddess has sprung up her head
as for the "boys, go to your room, bit", i'm going to do just that for the moment.

I am positive ward was correct n0, but what action should I be looking to perform? searching for things? other than obtaining a res kit and becoming a medic, I'm not sure what I should do. Suggestions, plum?

#187 by Magna is pretty awesome.

rewq455 wrote:... The rules never said how many people are scum

VOTE: Furcolow

lulz. just as much a VI here as he is in LoTR ;P

thanks for warding me tho <3

wait. YOU B$TCH YOU PROBABLY CRAFTED A FETISH DIDNT YOU.

FFF---

Furcolow wrote:you guys need to learn to think

100% right on the money. furc keeps pointing out a lot of stuff that people are stupid to have missed.

furc is by far the most pro-town player in the game at this point despite any suspicion i may have expressed earlier.

also, why do you want me to res rewq? i would much rather res somebody who's useful to the game. lmao
(no offense, rewq)

k i take it back, rewq's 230 is pretty awesome.

in other news, i just realized that r-e-w-q are all in a row on the keyboard, but backwards. ^_^

furc, why protect wickedestjr either? i dont know he has a res kit. and why would i protect him because of that? that doesn't confirm him in the least. besides, he's super inactive (relatively) thus far. that's negative points on my 'to protect' scale.

k i take it back again, kunks 244 basically crushes rewq's 230. lulz

Furcolow (@ spy) wrote:just because your brolite and calling me a brofessional does not mean that you are bro-town

LMAO. best post of the game so far.

answer what questions, furc? whether i will res rewq or wicked? iono yet son. games only just started.

SpyreX wrote:I haven't had a chance to bro-up because I missed enough time for madness to start spewing all over everything.

Yo yo RC what makes you think either of the chuckleheads are scum?

my patented (and highly affordable) Gastro-Intestinal Pro-(or Anti-)Town Detection Device.

Furcolow wrote:

SpyreX wrote:I haven't had a chance to bro-up because I missed enough time for madness to start spewing all over everything.

Yo yo RC what makes you think either of the chuckleheads are scum?

are u trying to get a brolliance with me/rc?
im so up for that

vote: seacore

lets get this pahtay stahted!

I'm 150% down for this.

Other members of the alliance are Fate and Andrius. (and Vas, since Andy wouldn't join without him).

we can rearrange it later, but it's important to start with ALL ENGINES OF AWESOME RUNNING AT FULL SPEED AHEAD.

Andrius wrote:WHERE THE FUCK IS

PAULIE

VASUDEVA

THAT TRAITOR

I WANT TO COMMUNE WITH HIM AND PRETEND WE'RE MASONS

AND THEN GET STABBED IN THE BACK

.

^_^

Andrius wrote:Hey to [..., ..., ..., ..., ..., ..., ..., ..., ..., ] Lord Voldemort

*tips hat*

#275 is WIN. but maybe, he's just excited... *checks the fridge for some salmon*

Andrius wrote:GAWD. LET RC RUN THE TOWN; HE DOES A MUCH BETTER JOB, EVEN AS VOLDEMORT.

*tips... WAND.*

*OMINOUSLY*

Andrius wrote:@ RC: YOU IGNORED THE LINE I WROTE JUST FOR YOU.

-The Baker

i didn't get up to it yet. hold ur horses bro i'm still readin

Andrius wrote:WILL BE

ASLSSP

GOING TO DINNER NAO.

btw, awesome avatar Baby Spice <3 avatar avatars.

Plum wrote:Hey, RC! <3 - I've forgotten how much I enjoy playing with you. Was it just that short time in Thrillville? Plus helping hash out The Brave and the Beautiful a bit?

yup. and a few marathons back in June or July I believe, whenever we switched to phpbb3.

i didn't know I made such an impression.

/inb4 FOURTH reference to Brave and the Beautiful

(just failed)

Plum (@ Magna) wrote:You seem to have a fetish regarding Furc (pun intended, sorry, but the point stands).

ohhhhh ho ho HO! *devilish laugh*

in addition to the cut of your jib, i likes the sound of your town(ish posting).

/strong bad (if you caught either of those, you are 100% WIN).


again, ninja'd by 16 posts. this game is pretty sexy so far.

p.s. tl;dr on any/all of my posts is:

VOTE SEACORE
FURC IS TOWN
I AM AWESOME
(and also town)

...

good evening.