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Wagon Ani est désormais le wagon mal. D1 n'a pas été assez longtemps pour voir son manque d'aborder le wagon Jindori que scummy à la lumière de sa demande. Je ne vois aucune raison de ne pas y croire maintenant.

Baby Spice, d'autre part, ont fait des commentaires sur le wagon. Essayer de le ralentir, quelle que soit Jindori très scummy auto-vote.

Sa contradiction sur le TS n'est pas une contradiction. Il s'agit d'une fausse attaque.

Ses deux adresses à son wagon sont des ordures, je n'aime pas son "lynchage politique" push sur n'importe lynchage son copain écume. C'était un bon Lynch, s'il n'est pas trop rapide, mais il était sur ​​obvscum. Elle a tenté de faire dérailler il de dernière minute, ne pouvait pas, et fait de limiter les dégâts.

Les gens sur le wagon Ani devrait être de vote BS.

I still think Ani is a better lynch than BS :/
Granted, BS is not a BAD lynch, but... what has Ani done that's caused people to stop voting him? I must've missed something. People on the BS wagon: show me why Ani is town.

So, wait a moment. I wanted to lynch a player (albeit for bad reasons) who wasn't jindori and I'm getting lynched for it. Inteseresting thought process there Parama. I love how you completely disregarde my firefighter claim(I haven't seen more than 2 or 3 posts on it), and when I stated for reasoning D1 on the jindori lynch, NOT A OUL gave me any sort of reasons at all.

Very interesting.

EBWOP:
NOT A SOUL*

the way you pushed it looked like you were trying to start a counterwagon, but nice try.
claims are irrelevant. the last time someone claimed firefighter, I lynched them. and they were scum. that has no bearing on this game of course but I don't really care too much for claims unless you can prove it.

What the hel do you want me to do? I've already quoted the role PM.

The claim is deterring me.

Amrun wrote:The claim is deterring me.

this

but if I ever play with animorpherv1 again I will be policy voting him day one

Then what's stopping you polivy lynching him now?

All I'm doing is trying to getmyself not lynched. I claimed to save myself so we could lynch actual scum, and I'M the bad guy? Nice going there.

If you want to lynch someone because of my claim, that would be Parama. He brought up the situation to such an extreme point that this is all we are talking about, and I claimed.

VI ou non, Ani n'est pas lyncher aujourd'hui, la demande montre clairement. Permet de mettre l'accent sur le lynchage d'écume comme BS. Toute pression pour Ani joue encore anti-ville.

Baby Spice wrote:
Since Ani wasn't in that game, chances are good he got a role from it, firefighter being such an unusual thing. ie: The reason he knows of ifirefighter is most probably receiving a role from the game it was in.

Can you explain this a little more? Why do you think Ani is more likely to have received a role from a game he wasn't in, since roles are theoretically assigned randomly?

animorpherv1 wrote:

All I'm doing is trying to getmyself not lynched

. I claimed to save myself so we could lynch actual scum, and I'M the bad guy? Nice going there.

If you want to lynch someone because of my claim, that would be Parama. He brought up the situation to such an extreme point that this is all we are talking about, and I claimed.

Very interesting, especially the bolded. Ani seems unusually preoccupied with his own survival. Also, note the sudden about face on Parama, from town to lynch target. I don't recall Parama asking you to claim, Ani, you did that all on your own. Now it just looks like he's frantically searching for any target other than himself to get lynched today.

Also, I asked you to address bobsnox's point in my last post, Ani. You've posted since I did without saying anything one way or another about my post. Please fix this.

Surye, why isn't Ani the lynch today? I know you think BS is more likely to be scum, but do you have a town read on Ani, is it the claim, or something else?

Parama wrote:I still think Ani is a better lynch than BS :/
Granted, BS is not a BAD lynch, but... what has Ani done that's caused people to stop voting him? I must've missed something. People on the BS wagon: show me why Ani is town.

He's not Mafia because that's not a safe claim.

smargaret wrote:

Baby Spice wrote:
Since Ani wasn't in that game, chances are good he got a role from it, firefighter being such an unusual thing. ie: The reason he knows of ifirefighter is most probably receiving a role from the game it was in.

Can you explain this a little more? Why do you think Ani is more likely to have received a role from a game he wasn't in, since roles are theoretically assigned randomly?

Well, if it was a fake claim, how would he have known about the role? Sure he could have crawled through SC's wiki and found roles, but as someone said if that was the case why claim what is in effect a limited doc, why not a real doc. Remember he was at L-1 and a likely lynch.

Since it's unlikely he chose the role by pure brute searching, logically he must actually have a role that was in that game, and again, if he was going to fake claim, why that one. Especially when we had a fire type kill N1 (Napalmed)

Now TS.

Twistedspoon wrote:
too willing to believe claims Imo

I've already talked about looking things up and doing the research behind the claims so far, this this first 'reason' in bunk. Or perhaps you are referring to TL's claim, which since I voted for him at the time, would kind of indicate that I didn't believe that one too easily either.

Twistedspoon wrote:now that ani's claimed and quoted, Baby Spice is the most suspicious of those not on the Jindori wagon

If anything she tries to protect our pal Jindori

Two parts here. First, since you seem to believe Ani's claim now (Otherwise why shift your vote) how do you explain that it was largely my comments on it that made it believable?

Secondly, in what way do I try to protect your pal? I've said before that I don't like policy lynches, nor rapid lynches (The time that comes to mind I can't quote, live game)

Twistedspoon wrote:I never said I believed ani's claim did I?
I just don't think he should be today's lynch over yourself

So you don't believe Ani's claim, which means you think he's obv scum and are not voting for him? Instead you try to start a wagon on someone else. Remind me why you are voting me again? That's right:

Twistedspoon wrote:

Amrun wrote:
What IS your case on babyspice? It seems like you can't decide.

didn't vote obvscum jin
sorta objected to his lynch too

Now, I admit I'm known for thinking differently to what people might call normal, but that looks like you're voting me using the same logic you said I was using. Your calling me scummy whilst doing the same thing that you call scummy.

Twistedspoon wrote:

Baby Spice wrote:
Neither did you. VOTE:

1) I did. He was scum and I would have voted him whatever
2) just because i (supposedly) didn't doesn't clear you

Twistedspoon wrote:

jindori wrote:Lol same as me i was trying a slayers gambit in my game with twisted spoon (It's over so you can look into it.).

yeah, were you the one who hammered me, cop, page 5 without letting me claim?

this player is a true hazard to the town

VOTE: Jindori

jindori wrote:The info was not useless. I just didn't understand which game you were talking about. I want to know what your talking about Thank you.

Unvote vote jindori

Meh i'm not important anyway and a policy lynch on me might help find scum.

self-voting is a scum tactic to appear less important and humble and other such nonsense

We have a vote for a reason outside of the game, that at best can be called policy. Then called something a scum tactic as an added extra.
Now if you actually thought he was scummy, you would not have started with the policy bit would you? If this was really a policy vote I doubt you would have called the self voting scummy. Your vote here is a foot in both camps. Pointing out something vaguely scummy in case Jin was lynched, and laying a policy foundation so you can walk away if the wagon folded.

The key point here though, is that you never called Jin obvscum until after the flip.


This vote of yours is pure bussing.

Strong evidence of Bussing. Strong evidence of trying to force false cases. Ignoring questions. Bad logic.

Twisted spoon is scum, and the sooner we lynch him the sooner we can find his buddies.


Bobsnox, why are you sheeping so badly? More to the point, why are you sheeping scum? I would love to try and show why you're vote is wrong, but it's kind of hard when you give absolutely no reason whatsoever. Indeed, you only mention me once.

Bobsnox wrote:VOTE: Baby Spice

Surye, firstly, I'm having trouble even with the high school french (in the 1980's) and google translate but.

Baby Spice, on the other hand, commented on the wagon. Trying to slow it down

WTF and an (incorrect as it turned out) vote count is not much to base a vote on nor is it much of a comment, and as I've said, I don't like rushed lynches, rushed policy lynches.

His odds on TS is not a contradiction. This is a false attack.

Please explain.
TS makes a random seeming vote with some rubbish reason, I ask if he wants to try justify his random seaming vote again, he says no, then he tries to re-justify his random seeming vote with some more rubbish reason.
That is pure contradiction on his part.

His two addresses to its car are rubbish, I do not like his "political lynching" push on any lynching scum boyfriend. Lynch was a good, if not too fast, but he was on obvscum. She tried to derail it last minute, could not, and limiting the damage.

Please show how "this player is a true hazard to the town" as the basis for a vote is not policy?
Please show where you, or TS, thought jin was obvscum, before the flip.
Please show how I sought to derail the lynch at the last minute?

You can't.

Oh, and Surye, please quote your role PM because the only french post restricted role I can find linked to SC was a greek mafia goon in SWN II. (Ani and Parama were in that game too it seems)

Empking wrote:

Vote: BS

- (excluding myself) I think BS comes out the worst of the not-voters and I don't like his recent post at all.

Care to explain why, address anything.

Of the not voters, I'd personally look at anyone who hadn't posted. My, limited, experience says that any scum not voting would have not posted to avoid the whole thing. Otherwise I'd look for bussing, oh hello TS and his amazing bus post..

animorpherv1 wrote:What the hel do you want me to do? I've already quoted the role PM.

nothing since I want to lynch you. Thanks

Empking wrote:

Parama wrote:I still think Ani is a better lynch than BS :/
Granted, BS is not a BAD lynch, but... what has Ani done that's caused people to stop voting him? I must've missed something. People on the BS wagon: show me why Ani is town.

He's not Mafia because that's not a safe claim.

I've seen mafia claim firefighter before.
That doesn't work.
@BS: The mafia goon in SWNII was NOT originally post restricted, which is why I didn't bring it up.

StrangerCoug wrote:

MafiaSSK, you are a Greek Mafia goon. You, along with your partners in crime wolframnhart (who is a voyeur) and Pomegranate (who is also a goon), have come to Dreamland from Athens to spread your reign of terror—if you can stand the heat, that is.

(MOD NOTE: Changed to the following after MafiaSSK replaced out:

FeFiFoFum, you replace MafiaSSK you are a post-restricted Greek Mafia goon. You, along with your partners in crime wolframnhart (who is a voyeur) and Pomegranate (who is also a goon), have come to Dreamland from Athens to spread your reign of terror—if you can stand the heat, that is.

Oh, and the nekomata isn't the only person to curse anybody—MafiaSSK has cursed anybody getting this role, too. He faked having a post restriction making him have to post in French; by so doing, his successors (therefore, you) really do have to post in French.

)

Empking wrote:

Parama wrote:I still think Ani is a better lynch than BS :/
Granted, BS is not a BAD lynch, but... what has Ani done that's caused people to stop voting him? I must've missed something. People on the BS wagon: show me why Ani is town.

He's not Mafia because that's not a safe claim.

I've seen mafia claim firefighter before.
That doesn't work.

But have you sdeen Mafia given the role Firefighter as a fake claim?

Do we know mafia were given fakeclaims? You sound like you have inside info.

@Parama, as given to MafiaSSK it didn't, but as given to FeFiFoFum (Or whatever the replacements name was) it did. (Gotta love bastard mods)

I wasn't going to bring it up just yet, but Surye is acting so scummy at the moment, what with sheeping the rubbish TS case, I decided not to wait.

Parama wrote:Do we know mafia were given fakeclaims? You sound like you have inside info.

I think its very likely.

@smarget:

I claimed because I was at L-1. Am I not supposed to claim at L-1? I also missed what you wanted me to do easrlier. Care to direct me to a specific post?


@Parama et. all on my wagon:

Someone help me what I'm missing. I wanted to lynch Tragedy D1, and I believe not ONCE did I ever say that I opposed the jindorii lynch. Lynching people not on the jinodrii wagon is going to fail for two reasons:

1. Scum had to be on that wagon to make it go so fast.
2. When a lynch is 51% of everyone currently alive, there are obviously going to be town who weren't able to vote jinodrii.

It's not that you said you opposed it, it's that your actions say you opposed it.

Baby Spice - I wanted to see your reaction to pressure. I wasn't sheeping in this instance.