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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:19 am

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mneme wrote:BJ: how does this in any way vibe with your prior claim about not being able to vote for Puzzle if at all?
someone sent me a blitzball....that has nothing to do with my role.

Anyway, Puzzle = SIN. He really needs to be the lynch today.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:01 pm

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Zanath Brast wrote:
Confirm Vote: BabyJesus


First of all, that role does not match Selphie at all. Selphie is from FF8, and she is also a SeeD. None of her game powers, limit breaks, or anything match with that night power. Second, Sin would not be a role in this game. Jecht, sure. Seymour, sure. But not Sin. Even if Sin could be a role, it is extremely unlikely that it is aligned with any other person.

And even if all of this could possibly be true, why wasn't your first action today to vote Puzzle?
Keep in mind, the Mod doesn't have to follow the games, she's entitled to make characters do what she wants.

Also, feel free to ask me questions about what I was saying yesterday.
Zanath asked why I though he was suspicious, it was due to your early playstyle, but it toned down. You also asked if I would role claim. No, not untill I feel it necissary. I am Ellone and I have special abilities, that's my role claim for now.

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for all three of you being entwined in this situation. One of them is lying, it seems that the mass would like to see BJ dead, I will vote him if this is true.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:33 pm

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Before you lynch me, you should
wait for Brian McQueso
....HE can verify my story. I'd prefer not to say how at the moment, but he also knows that
Puzzle=SIN
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:46 pm

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Seems like an odd story by bj if he cant be verified.

I know there is something wrong with the "all support characters are scum all main characters are not scum" line by the simple fact that i am not a main character and not scum!

Waiting for confirmation from brian and rinoa's statement.
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:18 pm

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my statement was earlier, myopia.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:44 pm

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aha i see it apologies. that definately does support darklight's innocence.

will see what brian says.

theres some holes in bj's story but something just doesnt seem right about puzzle / armlx story either. they really didnt want to be investigated last night when that would have cleared both of them beyond much doubt if they are telling the truth. i also dont like that they didnt claim cloud (and we are still not sure which is which) until everyone else claimed first.

im not going to dismiss a scum plot between the three of them either (although that is a bit farfetched)
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:48 pm

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Look at it on the bright side : if we are scum, then BJ is town (:lol:).

Then, if after his lynch he appears town, You can send Zanath to vig me and mneme to investigate Armlx and lynch any remaining happily tomorrow.
For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:23 am

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Then, if after his lynch he appears town, You can send Zanath to vig me and mneme to investigate Armlx and lynch any remaining happily tomorrow.
This sounds pretty good. I'd vote BJ, but I wan to see a vote count first.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:25 am

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I agree; it's a sound plan, and unless the scum have some dirty trick up their sleeves, we can still pull off a win even if BJ turns up town. So that's the plan. We lynch BJ today, and if he turns up town, I vig Puzzle, and mneme investigates armlx. No matter what, we'll be able to clear or condemn both of them, since even if my 50% miss chance kicks in *knocks on wood*, we'll know which alignment Puzzle had.

Last count I had, BJ had four votes against him. We can wait for an official vote count though.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:43 am

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Zanath Brast wrote:I agree; it's a
sound plan
, and unless the scum have some dirty trick up their sleeves, we can still pull off a win even if BJ turns up town. So that's the plan. We lynch BJ today, and if he turns up town, I vig Puzzle, and mneme investigates armlx. No matter what, we'll be able to clear or condemn both of them, since even if my 50% miss chance kicks in *knocks on wood*, we'll know which alignment Puzzle had.

Last count I had, BJ had four votes against him. We can wait for an official vote count though.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:32 am

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Zanath Brast wrote:I agree; it's a sound plan, and unless the scum have some dirty trick up their sleeves, we can still pull off a win even if BJ turns up town. So that's the plan. We lynch BJ today, and if he turns up town, I vig Puzzle, and mneme investigates armlx. No matter what, we'll be able to clear or condemn both of them, since even if my 50% miss chance kicks in *knocks on wood*, we'll know which alignment Puzzle had.

Last count I had, BJ had four votes against him. We can wait for an official vote count though.
This is a VERY bad plan. There is a problem with it....part of the downside to me learning about a role, is that f I die the following day, there is a 50% chance I will appear in the writeup to be the very person that I just viewed. Hence, since I viewed Puzzle as SIN, there is a 50% chance I will appear to BE SIN, and a 50% chance I show up as my real role.

Therefore, if I DO come up as SIN, you need to know this, and know that it means PUZZLE is the manipulator.

As I said, Brian McQueso can verify this information, we really need to wait for him to confirm this before moving on....
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:46 am

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Puzzle: That's what we need. A cunning plan. :)
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:03 am

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BabyJesus wrote:
Zanath Brast wrote:I agree; it's a sound plan, and unless the scum have some dirty trick up their sleeves, we can still pull off a win even if BJ turns up town. So that's the plan. We lynch BJ today, and if he turns up town, I vig Puzzle, and mneme investigates armlx. No matter what, we'll be able to clear or condemn both of them, since even if my 50% miss chance kicks in *knocks on wood*, we'll know which alignment Puzzle had.

Last count I had, BJ had four votes against him. We can wait for an official vote count though.
This is a VERY bad plan. There is a problem with it....part of the downside to me learning about a role, is that f I die the following day, there is a 50% chance I will appear in the writeup to be the very person that I just viewed. Hence, since I viewed Puzzle as SIN, there is a 50% chance I will appear to BE SIN, and a 50% chance I show up as my real role.

Therefore, if I DO come up as SIN, you need to know this, and know that it means PUZZLE is the manipulator.

As I said, Brian McQueso can verify this information, we really need to wait for him to confirm this before moving on....
And if he comes up as scum, there is a 50% chance that Earth gets invaded by human-eating aliens.

OMG, we can't let that happen...

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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:27 am

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Okay. I've finally shown up. And I'm alive, no less (copvig roles are an innocent man's friend). Cool stuff, huh?

On BabyJesus... I think you're really reaching. You've claimed to have a
randomly self-millerizing roleblocker/cop
role. That seems just a bit... off. Whatever, though. Let's just get BrianMcQueso in here, see what he says, and go from there. I don't see any reason to rush things, and whatever he says, either way, will make everyone sure of their actions.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:42 am

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That's seconded, although I'm beginning to have the weird feeling that he may have been affected by some effect BJ knows about, seeing his insistance to get him on to post and the fact that Armlx and I saw only his spirit.
For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:56 am

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Puzzle wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:
Zanath Brast wrote:I agree; it's a sound plan, and unless the scum have some dirty trick up their sleeves, we can still pull off a win even if BJ turns up town. So that's the plan. We lynch BJ today, and if he turns up town, I vig Puzzle, and mneme investigates armlx. No matter what, we'll be able to clear or condemn both of them, since even if my 50% miss chance kicks in *knocks on wood*, we'll know which alignment Puzzle had.

Last count I had, BJ had four votes against him. We can wait for an official vote count though.
This is a VERY bad plan. There is a problem with it....part of the downside to me learning about a role, is that f I die the following day, there is a 50% chance I will appear in the writeup to be the very person that I just viewed. Hence, since I viewed Puzzle as SIN, there is a 50% chance I will appear to BE SIN, and a 50% chance I show up as my real role.

Therefore, if I DO come up as SIN, you need to know this, and know that it means PUZZLE is the manipulator.

As I said, Brian McQueso can verify this information, we really need to wait for him to confirm this before moving on....
And if he comes up as scum, there is a 50% chance that Earth gets invaded by human-eating aliens.

OMG, we can't let that happen...

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No.....robots would invade, not aliens.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:36 am

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Puzzle: ok, this has gotten interesting.

I take it your masonry with BMQ got a little wierd last night? How'd that work?

It sounds like BJ may be a cult leader.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:11 pm

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Sorry I'm late, guys.

Last night, I sent our lovely cop Mneme a Daisy because I was hoping it would benefit him somehow, but apparently, it's a roleblock. I'll be more careful with that in the future.

I didn't touch this whole Darklight thing, so I guess the power of the vigilante clears him.

As for everything BabyJesus says... I can't confirm
anything
. I have no masonry partners. I know nothing of Selphie (or why she'd ever be teamed with Aeris), and I know nothing of Sin or Puzzle.
BabyJesus wrote: This is a VERY bad plan. There is a problem with it....part of the downside to me learning about a role, is that f I die the following day, there is a 50% chance I will appear in the writeup to be the very person that I just viewed. Hence, since I viewed Puzzle as SIN, there is a 50% chance I will appear to BE SIN, and a 50% chance I show up as my real role.
This sounds like a lame excuse as for when we lynch him and he turns up Sin.

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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:17 pm

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Mneme: We were looking for Aeris to make 3. Aeris did not become a mason, we just got some cool stuff.
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:55 pm

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ouch.

Ok, so Baby Jesus is just scum, and I don't know what he's smoking (though my guess is that he mistook BMQ for the blitzball thrower).

BMQ, I believe you (though that puts doubt in the darklight result, since surely the scum have -some- ability), because a roleblock that is visible the next day is usually pro-town -- it just hurts the scum too much for there activites to be public. Maybe you should just use the roleblock from now on, rather than experimenting?
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:05 pm

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BMQ: Send a daisy to either DL or Myopia tonight. One of them is the last scum.

Shall we end this day now? Or is there anything else people would like to find out?
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:02 pm

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May I suggest sending the daisy to DL ?

And yes, we should move on now.
For now, I'll ask Thoth to come up with reasons why I should be voting for him, and I'd like him to respond to those.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:39 pm

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Well blocking me isnt going to do anything but it shouldnt necessarily be harmful to you either.

I have a chance to either be unaffected by a night choice or reflect a night choice back at the person who used them. Accordingly anyone else is fairly warned. I was hoping to catch a scum with it but guess thats irrelevant now.

DL must be the last scum although Im not sure exactly how.
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Tue Jun 21, 2005 9:59 pm

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Did I miss something on Darklight? From what I understood, by finding Rinoa, the vigilante got 100% kills against scum and 100% misses against town (at least for that night), and shot Darklight, who is still amongst the living. Doesn't this clear him?

The only other possibilities are less likely, like he's protected from the first kill against him, or the mafia has doctor protections or roleblockings available or something. While they're possible, I think it'd be better to give DL the benefit of the doubt and send investigations instead of bullets his way tonight.

I wonder since now I have a more defined role if that'll draw more mafia fire towards me... oh well, just remember, once Aeris dies, there's no bringing her back, no matter how many false Internet rumors say otherwise.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:30 am

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Aeris? Sorry, I've only played the beginning of FF3 and that's it.

Anyway, I definitely think BJ is scum, which makes me suspicious of Brian b/c BJ said he could save him which means Brian may be turning on his scumbuddy. Just a possible theory. I say Mneme investigates Puzz tonight to see if he's evil and we kill BJ, that way we can verify if BJ was telling the truth. As for the vig kill, I don't know who it should target, maybe Brian.
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