↑PJ. wrote:I can dig a katsuki wagon cause the Axxle wagon sucks and Katsuki is on UN so....maybe not where I want to be?
Vote:Katsuki
Where did your magical read come from?
IDK Ask the guy i'm sheeping. He's always town.
vote: Panzerjager
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:33 am
by chamber
I hate not getting it but I still don't.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:22 am
by LlamaFluff
How much of the UN wagon is currently policy and how much is due to a scumread?
Also the response to MoS not attacking Axxle when he committed a tell but instead a few pages later when he explicitly explained the already obvious is going to be "Oh MoS is just illogical and unwilling to admit that he is"? Either way is that actually an alignment tell or a null tell? I ask because most games I just blocked out MoS and let others read him so really dont know much about him there.
↑UberNinja wrote:Also I wouldn't WANT to be scum in this game. It would fucking suck to be scum in this game.
This rang true.
True as in you believe me? Good, then there's hope.
Vote LlamaFluff w/me.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:23 am
by UberNinja
↑LlamaFluff wrote:How much of the UN wagon is currently policy and how much is due to a scumread?
Who is this question directed at?
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:26 am
by Brandi
@Chamber:
Well, it's mostly the fact that panzer states Kat is "clearly not paying attention" when all of his posts show that he isn't. (I literally quoted 100% of his posts)
Him claiming that he didn't "get" the axxle wagon, which is a post he made after being prodded, which is after Axxle pseudo/soft-claimed, where he's clearly read enough to take his RVS vote off of him- but being so dismissive and acting confused... Despite several good reasons to vote Axxle have been made by multiple players...
...but is fine for him to just randomly hop onto a Katsuki wagon when there has been given no reasoning to do so onto that whatsoever, and gives a reason that is actually false.
So shorter and simpler, he is dismissive of a wagon that had value, claiming not to understand it...
but he completely understands one that has had no reasoning given for it- but adds his own reason that is complete BS (Kat was not voting for UN);
He claims kat is not paying attention
and in the same post
says he doesn't have a reason or a read- he's just sheeping...
"You're CLEARLY not paying attention- but I'm not paying attention either- I'm just sheeping"
so he doesn't "get" the axxle wagon, he doesn't "get" the katsuki wagon either- but one had a soft-claim so it's "safe" for him to move off of that one and then hop onto something else.
↑UberNinja wrote:Also I wouldn't WANT to be scum in this game. It would fucking suck to be scum in this game.
This rang true.
True as in you believe me? Good, then there's hope.
Vote LlamaFluff w/me.
Nope. True as in it made me think you were discovering first-hand that being scum in this game fucking sucks.
I'll have a look at Llama because I should probably have some kind of read on him by now, but I'm very happy with my vote.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:31 am
by ChannelDelibird
Hey, UN. Post 281. Please learn to snip that sort of thing if you're going to make a point that small. You arguably didn't need any of that quote. #quotewallsareantifun
Well, it's mostly the fact that panzer states Kat is "clearly not paying attention" when all of his posts show that he isn't. (I literally quoted 100% of his posts)
Him claiming that he didn't "get" the axxle wagon, which is a post he made after being prodded, which is after Axxle pseudo/soft-claimed, where he's clearly read enough to take his RVS vote off of him- but being so dismissive and acting confused... Despite several good reasons to vote Axxle have been made by multiple players...
...but is fine for him to just randomly hop onto a Katsuki wagon when there has been given no reasoning to do so onto that whatsoever, and gives a reason that is actually false.
So shorter and simpler, he is dismissive of a wagon that had value, claiming not to understand it...
but he completely understands one that has had no reasoning given for it- but adds his own reason that is complete BS (Kat was not voting for UN);
He claims kat is not paying attention
and in the same post
says he doesn't have a reason or a read- he's just sheeping...
"You're CLEARLY not paying attention- but I'm not paying attention either- I'm just sheeping"
so he doesn't "get" the axxle wagon, he doesn't "get" the katsuki wagon either- but one had a soft-claim so it's "safe" for him to move off of that one and then hop onto something else.
Your whole read on me is based on me saying he wasn't paying attention, which is funny cause I said that I wasn't paying enough attention. "Why are you voting me for voting a guy i'm not on," "(i'm) clearly not paying enough attention". Also There's a soft claim? This game is passing me by apparently.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:46 am
by Brandi
No, my
whole
read is not based on you saying that he wasn't paying attention.
The fact that you really aren't paying attention and nothing you say makes any sense is also an issue.
↑LlamaFluff wrote:How much of the UN wagon is currently policy and how much is due to a scumread?
Who is this question directed at?
Anyone on your wagon.
Nice to see MoS being mature about being wrong. This may be actually him town though, from what I do actually remember him there was a correlation between how much he was pissing me off and how likely he was to be town.
Sorta want to just sheep Brandi here for a bit.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:49 pm
by UberNinja
Panzer did neglect to answer my question earlier... and he only did that before when he was scum...
I still don't feel a scum intent from his posts.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:03 pm
by Vu
Searching for Elmo replacement now.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:54 pm
by Glork
Can someone please explain why people keep talking about FTF behaviors and tells and trying to apply them to forum mafia? They're pretty vastly different...
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:05 pm
by chamber
↑Glork wrote:Can someone please explain why people keep talking about FTF behaviors and tells and trying to apply them to forum mafia? They're pretty vastly different...
The core personalities that lead to those tells in some cases still make sense to transfer?
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:11 pm
by UberNinja
Not nearly as much as you think. When you have to think on your feet instead of just making forum posts, it brings out a whole different side of you.
Look at how LlamaFluff plays. Much differently than in F2F. He's not a very loud person, so he sits back and isn't that active, but so far in this game he's being active and aggressive in a way that I've never seen him do IRL.
Glork's point stands. So let's stop talking about IRL play, and just play
this
game. I sincerely doubt anyone is going to catch anyone for a F2F tell here. Which is why I told Katsuki that his usual lurking wasn't going to cut it, because I just can't read that.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:14 pm
by chamber
I can read CES remarkably well both IRL and off, and that comes from understanding him as a person very well. You are simply wrong that the personalities learnt FTF don't matter. They might be more obscured but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:36 pm
by Gammagooey
don't see anything that looks like an alignment tell in panzer's iso
katsuki can be weakly gut town
yeah i still want UN to get noosed.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:45 pm
by Brandi
People are a lot more suspicious of me in forum mafia than in IRL.
In IRL if I'm town just about everyone knows it.
I wonder what it is about me that's so different to people on the forums...
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:48 pm
by chamber
↑Brandi wrote:People are a lot more suspicious of me in forum mafia than in IRL.
In IRL if I'm town just about everyone knows it.
I wonder what it is about me that's so different to people on the forums...
I think I'm actually much more trusting of you on the forums.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:41 pm
by UberNinja
↑chamber wrote:I can read CES remarkably well both IRL and off, and that comes from understanding him as a person very well. You are simply wrong that the personalities learnt FTF don't matter. They might be more obscured but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
Well you can't read patrick for shit. That last game was epic lolol
↑chamber wrote:I can read CES remarkably well both IRL and off, and that comes from understanding him as a person very well. You are simply wrong that the personalities learnt FTF don't matter. They might be more obscured but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
Well you can't read patrick for shit. That last game was epic lolol
Whats your point? (I don't remember the game you are talking about ftr, but I know I can't read patrick particularly well)
read is not based on you saying that he wasn't paying attention.
The fact that you really aren't paying attention and nothing you say makes any sense is also an issue.
But is it explicitly scummy to not pay attention/not make sense
This seems like town Ninja to me, I thinking Glork is teh scums. I like Pacman's case on Katsuki. I'm positive brandi is misguided town. We have a few lurkers.