Ok. Our doc and cop are both dead, along with potentially the main vig (I'ld assume Spork was, with a liscense to kill....). I don't really see a role where losing it would be worse then losing a 1 shot vig at this point, especially since you can't claim. RB is the only thing I can think of that would be alive, and that has a 50/50 chance of leaving the game 2-1-1 (forcing a Prisoner's Dilema), whereas I have 50/50 (assuming nothing tricky) of leaving the game 2-1 (forcing a lynch or lose). I would rather gamble with the person who "can't claim" on top of that. I know MoS is the right choice in this WIFOM, but the only way I can get this across to everyone else is simple numbers.Mastermind of Sin wrote: if we lynch armlx first, at best we kill an SK, at worst we kill a one-shot vig. If you kill me, at best you kill a mafia/sk, and at worst you kill a protown player with unknown ability at this time.
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since you aren't even protown by your own admission, we can't even trust you to try and kill scum. you'll just kill of the protown people and claim the win. How is that going to help us? According to your claim, you're a neutral of some sort, which means you can win with scum just as easily as with the town. What assurance do we have that you won't betray us ftw?armlx wrote:Ok. Our doc and cop are both dead, along with potentially the main vig (I'ld assume Spork was, with a liscense to kill....). I don't really see a role where losing it would be worse then losing a 1 shot vig at this point, especially since you can't claim. RB is the only thing I can think of that would be alive, and that has a 50/50 chance of leaving the game 2-1-1 (forcing a Prisoner's Dilema), whereas I have 50/50 (assuming nothing tricky) of leaving the game 2-1 (forcing a lynch or lose). I would rather gamble with the person who "can't claim" on top of that. I know MoS is the right choice in this WIFOM, but the only way I can get this across to everyone else is simple numbers.Mastermind of Sin wrote: if we lynch armlx first, at best we kill an SK, at worst we kill a one-shot vig. If you kill me, at best you kill a mafia/sk, and at worst you kill a protown player with unknown ability at this time.
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MoS: The reason is because I have is lynching a scum (you) > lynching a neutral (me) for the town. Plus, if I am right, I become pro-town once you die. I also have no reads on anyone except you, so everything I do would be random. Plus being alive at the end of the game is so cool and lynching the townie would kill me technically :-p.
I also screwed up the numbers on my last post. I forgot to add my night kill to the kill, therefore the odds are more complicated and I can't really figure them out. It involves me over lapping kills with a scum potentially, not using my ability, etc....
I also screwed up the numbers on my last post. I forgot to add my night kill to the kill, therefore the odds are more complicated and I can't really figure them out. It involves me over lapping kills with a scum potentially, not using my ability, etc....
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and for me I have lynching a scum (you) > lynching a protown player (me). the chance at saving a neutral killer isn't something that should be top priority for the protown players here, imo. If it is, something is really wrong with you.armlx wrote:MoS: The reason is because I have is lynching a scum (you) > lynching a neutral (me) for the town. Plus, if I am right, I become pro-town once you die. I also have no reads on anyone except you, so everything I do would be random. Plus being alive at the end of the game is so cool and lynching the townie would kill me technically :-p.
I also screwed up the numbers on my last post. I forgot to add my night kill to the kill, therefore the odds are more complicated and I can't really figure them out. It involves me over lapping kills with a scum potentially, not using my ability, etc....
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Except if we lynch protown today, there is only 1 protown player tomorrow... So no win for town...It's win-win. If he's not scum then we can lynch armlx tomorrow.
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Please update the first Post. This makes things much clearer, I think.I will
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although this gives us a tie. I think we have come to the conclusion that at least one of them is scum, at least do we think this at the moment. We don't know what night will bring. But for now I'd rather lynch armlx. It is too unsure he really is on our side. He is a killer.
If scum doesn't kill each other.. which isn't that unlikely.Except if we lynch protown today, there is only 1 protown player tomorrow... So no win for town...
Hm, I expressed my belief that hey could be recruits. As in, wichever kills the other one, is becoming the side he is associated with. That means they cannot be actually scum...
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It's not win-win because I'll be DEAD.Stewie wrote:Vote: mos
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-It's win-win. If he's not scum then we can lynch armlx tomorrow.
-I have reasons to believe armlx, most of them are based on his behaviour since day one.
-I don't trust mos, and nothing he said made me change my mind.
-I fell, and I don't feel like thinking much.
I have reasons to not trust armlx, based on his behavior since day one which has caused me to vote him repeatedly
I'm starting to not trust stewie because of his single-mindedness and his complete ignorance regarding armlx's behavior
I hope you feel better, Stewie.
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