↑TheTrollie wrote:i literally cannot see venmar as town right now. Otherwise i might agree to mehdi.
Trollie, you can still vote Mehdi for towncred
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:41 pm
by TheTrollie
i'm considering it, waiting for other ppl to chime in. I still have not read how the mattP v. mehdi thing started, so ill probably do that before considering voting there too.
Mostly, i just want the towncred though.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:52 pm
by MonkeyMan576
Vote Count 1.1
11 required for a lynch
Om Of The Nom - Elmo TeH AzN(L-10)
Bitmap Guy_Named_Riggs(L-10)
Mehdi2277 - MattP, Bitmap, Om of the Nom, Toogeloo, roflcopter, Nachomamma8, Venmar(L-4)
Venmar - TheTrollie(L-10)
Maenara - Mehdi2277(L-10)
Not Voting: ArcAngel9, Maestro, PeregrineV, The Acting Method, Lurker, Maenara, SoraAdvent, chkflip, Voidedmafia, Nero Cain
Day 1 Ends On January 30th, 2013 at 11:59 PM or when a lynch occurs.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:52 pm
by Nachomamma8
So people going from how often people are scum and town is the wrong way to do it if you are trying to figure out a person's role. You go for what they are known for.
↑Mehdi2277 wrote:I currently think matt is likely town.
you currently think he is likely town?
what are the chances of him fakeclaiming lightning rod as scum?
what are the chances of monkey giving him a lightning rod as scum?
I'm liking toog for town so far. I have no idea what the fuck mod would give to him, but being lazy as fuck about checking everyone's meta is a good sign in my book!
bitmap is town because of how he's handling the mehdi-matt situation.
Venmar's Bitmap vote sucks, and I don't like how concerned mehdi is over matt. It reads exactly like how I was behaving when kaney pegged the shit out of me in a marathon game.
don't mind venmar's vote so much now that trollie jumped on the bandwagon
trollie, why is mattp town?
lol gnr is town for the whole "MattP, I know you are a strong player and all, but you can't bully me!"
he gets flustered pretty easily on occasion, and i don't think he would take a stand against him like this, especially if mattp is right about mehdi/trollie (and it feels like he's right about trollie)
also angel is probably town
and lurker should probably be shot
just because they don't have much meta behind them, so finding a role for them would be hard
but their names make things a bit easier
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:04 pm
by Mehdi2277
Angel's meta fits town more then scum though and best way I can word it is her way of suspecting people. Lurker I don't know any of his finished meta really.
Why fake claim it as scum? It's a fairly confirmable power. As for him being a scum lightning rod why claim and say he wants the investigative roles to act when he uses his power. Either he's lying and it'll be shown false or he's a scum lightning rod that will be guiltied. Both ways for him scum don't work well. So the claim makes him town.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:47 pm
by MonkeyMan576
Updated vote count with correct venmar vote.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:55 pm
by Om of the Nom
nacho can you call me town because every time you call me town i feel happy
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:16 pm
by Elmo TeH AzN
9 pages. I hate you all. Someone recap.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:23 pm
by MattP
↑Elmo TeH AzN wrote:9 pages. I hate you all. Someone recap.
Mehdi is scum, Trollie basically confirmed it and is his scum partner, Mehdi is L-4, vote Mehdi
If you want it cut down a bit do a 3 way ISO between me, Mehdi and Trollie
↑Elmo TeH AzN wrote:9 pages. I hate you all. Someone recap.
Mehdi is scum, Trollie basically confirmed it and is his scum partner, Mehdi is L-4, vote Mehdi
If you want it cut down a bit do a 3 way ISO between me, Mehdi and Trollie
will u stop this "trollie confirmz all" bullshit. I have literally not given 2 shits to ur mehdi-gazm yet.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:59 pm
by MattP
↑TheTrollie wrote:will u stop this "trollie confirmz all" bullshit. I have literally not given 2 shits to ur mehdi-gazm yet.
The more you play this angle, the more obvious you become. I suggest you try a different angle
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:03 pm
by Nachomamma8
↑Mehdi2277 wrote:Why fake claim it as scum? It's a fairly confirmable power. As for him being a scum lightning rod why claim and say he wants the investigative roles to act when he uses his power. Either he's lying and it'll be shown false or he's a scum lightning rod that will be guiltied. Both ways for him scum don't work well. So the claim makes him town.
exactly
so why did you call him likely town?
and not just "MattP is town"
↑Om of the Nom wrote:nacho can you call me town because every time you call me town i feel happy
you're gonna have to work harder for me, darlin'
↑Elmo TeH AzN wrote:9 pages. I hate you all. Someone recap.
please don't do this to me
please do not do this to me
↑Mehdi2277 wrote:Why fake claim it as scum? It's a fairly confirmable power. As for him being a scum lightning rod why claim and say he wants the investigative roles to act when he uses his power. Either he's lying and it'll be shown false or he's a scum lightning rod that will be guiltied. Both ways for him scum don't work well. So the claim makes him town.
exactly
so why did you call him likely town?
and not just "MattP is town"
↑Om of the Nom wrote:nacho can you call me town because every time you call me town i feel happy
you're gonna have to work harder for me, darlin'
↑Elmo TeH AzN wrote:9 pages. I hate you all. Someone recap.
please don't do this to me
please do not do this to me
You should know from any big game I play day 1 I never give a shit because the player list is so damn big. Ill read the 9 pages tonight between Far Cry.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:26 pm
by MattP
↑TheTrollie wrote:hows this for an angle: go fuck yourself.
Anyone else wanna talk to me cause I'm done with MattPhuck for right now.
Lol artificial rage lol think you can get away with that when we're dating lol
↑TheTrollie wrote:hows this for an angle: go fuck yourself.
Anyone else wanna talk to me cause I'm done with MattPhuck for right now.
Lol artificial rage lol think you can get away with that when we're dating lol
I keep in-game rage from affecting our love life babe.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:31 pm
by Voidedmafia
Okay, I'm only gonna say these things once and only once because right now I'm fucking pissed.
1.) I have a Post restriction, if you can't tell.
2.) Said restriction mainly involves only posting in pictures. Obviously I can have quotes, but anything outside dem tags has to be a picture. (well, and I'd imagine besides votes, but yeah)
3.) I only get four non-picture posts a day (and you all can guess what I have to be doing for them).
I'm assuming this is my 2nd post for D1 until the mod tells me my /confirm post does not count toward this
4.) I cannot vote on non-consecutive days.
So, there's my information. Now here's something from me.
Please, oh, please, for the love of all gods out there, DON'T MAKE ME HAVE TO WADE THROUGH MORE THAN 2 PAGES OF STUFF!
I know I'm known for walling (thank you for reminding me, Mehdi <_<). little known fact is that I hate doing it as much as you all probably hate seeing them. But large game or not I really don't see how you can't tone down the posting just that liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitle tiny bit so I don't have to type ANOTHER long wall after, like, 7 pages sprout up while I'm gone to work or college (and for the latter it wouldn't be that bad if it weren't for the damn PR, so I'm more or less gonna have to make these posts at home). As it stands, I have to wade through
12
tonight just to get caught up, I'm pissed at Photobucket because it hates my laptop for no goddamn reason, and I'm not gonna lie when I say that seeing this PR brought me THIS close (| |) to replacing out for the first time in all of my nearly 2 years of being on Mafiascum, and I really question what games were used for me.
That doesn't mean I'm not gonna sit and act petty and whiny. I'm gonna try this shit because I'm a stubborn ass, but please try to be just a little bit sympathetic for me and let me post things that're gonna be reasonable for once.
(also, if I need to change the size of the images, please let me know. I can also spoiler them if it's really necessary, but I'd prefer not to because lots of tags and me do not mix.)
Non-image post #3 will be my catch-up, and unless i have to I probably won't used #4 (unless there's a case that's good enough for me to use it.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:55 pm
by TheTrollie
↑Voidedmafia wrote:4.) I cannot vote on non-consecutive days.
↑Voidedmafia wrote:4.) I cannot vote on non-consecutive days.
huh?
Means for some reason a day passes that he can't vote. Oh and VM is town.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:06 pm
by MattP
well yea
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:09 pm
by Voidedmafia
Spoiler: Page 1-5 ish
↑MattP wrote:I just wanna say that since alignment is meta based, anyone that doesn't auto-accept me as conftown is scum
MattP, you should very well know by now that I don't put much stock into meta except for certain cases (like Nobody Special). I'm going to judge you by your play here in this game, not by what you've done.
↑Mehdi2277 wrote:Am I the only person you have based on meta for a read? Disagree/agree with nacho/rofl/om opinion and anyone else who fits one alignment more then the other?
Despite what I just said above, I honestly want to know if you have a similar kind of read on me.
Same question goes for everyone else up to this point who hasn't tried to explain theirs at this point, btw.
↑Mehdi2277 wrote:A watcher generally just sees who acted. Knowing someone is active isn't a great help in a game I'd guess is either role madness or mostly role madness based on the fact roles were supposed to be personalized.
Actually, while I dislike that he up and said it, think his idea isn't that bad. Perhaps it won't work like he expects
now
, but if he still has a shot (I'm assuming something like that wouldn't be infinite) down the line, I think he should use it exactly for this.
↑MattP wrote:Have you played with Mehdi-town before?
It's not a question of "have you played with her before"; him doing that is scummy, period.
A.) This is not my fucking problem. I don't LIKE making walls, but I have to to be caught up and shit.
B.) Is that really all that sticks out about me...?
↑MattP wrote:I frankly don't care what your response to me voting scum would be
Your vote is totally in the wrong place unless you got good shit behind it.
↑Bitmap wrote:Oh hey, you know you two aren't the only players here.
This is also slightly scummy. There is little reason why you should be trying to act like some kind of ref between them, and they're apt to finish this on their own (though I do hope Matt says why he voted in the near future).
↑Venmar wrote:There's no town motivation in Bitmap's repetition of his role, and I don't think he is actually genuinely concerned about cops to begin with.
Why is there no town motivation?
Why do you think that?
↑The Acting Method wrote:I'm not scum and I find it weird that Voided was the only one of us given a post restriction to my knowledge
↑Bitmap wrote:When I got the miller role PM, I looked at the wiki for millers. It said I can claim now and get it out of the way or play well and be pro-town.
Is it just me, or does Ven have this "speak only in short one-liners" PR?
Spoiler: Page 6-end of catchup
↑Venmar wrote:I'll give 5 rupies to the gentleman who spots the difference in those two posts.
I'll give 5 more for anyone who can guess as to why Ven's wrong.
↑Mehdi2277 wrote:Matt you're complaining about me not doing something in one post when I do it before you can say it. That isn't a problem?
Am I supposed to understand that this post is you trying to get scumpoints, or am I missing something?
↑Mehdi2277 wrote:Bit you claimed miller in one post and miller + something else in the other. That's the difference.
...I don't see that. Like, at all, to be honest.
↑MattP wrote:ITT Mehdi tries to convince me that me using my power to get him lynched is a bad plan instead of trying to convince me that I'm reading him wrong in the first place lololol
If this is referring to Ven, it's more because of HOW he's doing it rather than that he just is.
↑MattP wrote:Any votes after this point can be bussing from scum, by all means help us further your scummates lynch for "towncred"
...Riiiiiiiight.
↑Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:Relax, he said "Not scum with mehdi" Not "Not scum"
So? Doesn't make that post any more ridiculous.
Regarding 220 and 222...I suppose I see it, but why are you sure that this would be the case? Om and/or bitmap could still be scum.
Stuff for why Trollie might be scum is parsed slightly better. Still depends on a Mehdi-scumflip, though, so onto the backburner it goes.
↑MattP wrote:I don't like that everyone is using him as an easy lynch/wagon
He's still scummy as hell, though.
↑MattP wrote:Then what is the point of 243? It's not intended to figure out anything about me so what does it accomplish?
It tries to clear shit up?
↑Mehdi2277 wrote:The second sentence is defending gnr. The first sentence doesn't accomplish anything.
"doesn't accomplish anything" as in "Things around this didn't give me what I wanted from other players"
or
"Doesn't accomplish anything" as in "I realized this sentence was kinda unnecessary"
For the former, what were you expecting, then?
for the latter, why'd you even say it, then?
↑Nachomamma8 wrote:daddy is home, but he hasn't quite read
matt give me your trollie read
in exchange for my vote
Oh, good, I'm not alone in PRs--
*sees 278*
damn.
↑MattP wrote:The more you play this angle, the more obvious you become. I suggest you try a different angle
This is actually becoming even more of a good point against Trollie. His derision for the wagon is very disconcerting.
If I vote D1, I cannot vote D2. I shouldn't have put "non" in front, though, sorry.
Also, if you expect me to be funny with those walfas posts, don't expect it to be intentional that much.
okay, reads now.
ArcAngel9 - Only confirmed. No read at present.
bitmap - I believe his miller claim for now, but as I stated before his actions back on pages 3-5 regarding Mehdi and matt (him trying to referee it and such) are suspect, and my gut is not exactly pinging well on his later posts. Also dislike him hinting at having a PR like I do but not actually saying it.
chkflip - only posted pre-game. No read at present.
Elmo - Same old unhelpful person D1 as ever. Null.
GNR - Okay enough. One of his earlier posts may have struck me as wrong, so I'll probably take a look at it later.
Lurker - ...So far living up to her name. I could've sworn I saw her vote earlier, but that probably before the mod note about "vote: mae". Slightly scummy as the vote had no reason behind it.
Maestro - Hasn't posted except to confirm. No read at present.
MattP - Currently one of my strongest townreads, mainly due to his Lightning rod claim and a few other posts (and stuff related to Trollie). Probably would be strengthened if Mehdi does flip scum, I think.
Mehdi - the things Matt talked about early on regarding her interactions with bitmap read as good enough to peg her as slight scum. I admittedly do not quite understand why she's "confscum" as of late, though.
Monkeyman - WHY DID YOU GIVE ME THIS FUCKTARDED POST RESTRICTION, GODDAMMIT ALJDFKLAJDFLKADJFKLADJFLKJL! *chokes on spittlle* *cough, cough*
Nacho - 278 feels town enough. I don't get any heebies from it, so he's town for now.
Nero cain - I really dislike that early post from him to Mehdi, so he's slightly scum. Lack of recent posting prevents me from working on this read, though.
Om - Thankfully not saying "I'm obvtown" anymore. And hopefully will stop thinking I'm some kind of bad player in the near future. Though, despite my thing about disliking meta, due to the amount of useless stuff that usually goes into his posts he's one of the few cases where I do use meta to read him, and this feels like his towngames more than anything.
Peregrine - Hasn't posted 'cept to confirm. No read.
Rolf - Only sheeped onto the Mehdi wagon, more or less. No real read, but like Lurker is slight scum for the lack of real reasoning behind his vote.
Sora - /confirms, and then asks what is going on in the most stupid way possible. should probably get out.
TAM - I really didn't like 121 as it felt like a post full of nothing. Nullscum.
Trollie - I agree with Matt's relational tells with Mehdi, but it's still dependent on a Mehdi-scumflip. So null until shown otherwise.
toogeloo - feels alright from what I've seen. Nulltown.
Venmar - I really, really hate his push onto bitmap, as well as his short, curt posting. His push does not feel townie at all, and I would glady want to see him hang as he's currently my strongest non-associative scumread with bitmap not far behind (otherwise it'd robably be trollie).
*sigh* okay, that's post #3. Now back to pictures for probably the rest of the day.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:19 pm
by SoraAdvent
I read through the thread and I have no idea what the Mehdi bandwagon is about. I'll probably read the Matt-Mehdi-Trollie ISO or something.
By "What is this?", I meant my role. It's unusual, to say the least.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 10:25 pm
by MattP
VM I'm drunk now but you have to work with me here come on remember marketplace trust me bro