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Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:11 pm
by Jake from State Farm
if you are town, you still have to show people you are scum hunting. I have directly challenged you to prove it.

if you refuse town, people will just start looking through your ISO and think to themselves "DAMN, jake is right. Fuzzy isn't doing anything but fluff posting"

and then it's a downward spiral with you being lynched.

so don't do it cause I ask you, do it cause you want to show the rest of town you are actually trying to find scum.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:12 pm
by fuzzybutternut
Mmm. Sorry. Just not too convinced that you're town.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:13 pm
by Jake from State Farm
like I said, you shouldn't be doing it for my benefit, you should be doing it for your own benefit.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:14 pm
by fuzzybutternut
Tell me again how you're helping town?

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:16 pm
by Jake from State Farm
In post 35, fuzzybutternut wrote:..Dobby's sock.
I am pressuring someone who claims they have been scum hunting to prove it, because I am flat out claiming you aren't.


if you are town you would be able to show examples right? I mean you claimed you were
In post 264, fuzzybutternut wrote:*shrug* Just trying to figure out who's scum
but your posts and this statement don't match imo

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:19 pm
by fuzzybutternut
In post 75, fuzzybutternut wrote:I'm sorry, I love Harry Potter way too much to let these comments go. So just bare with me. :)

Ghostlin! You scum again?

Hey, Jake, did you catch this in my ISO, or did you completely overlook it to gain a shit wagon on me?

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:20 pm
by fuzzybutternut
In post 275, Jake from State Farm wrote:if you are town, you still have to show people you are scum hunting. I have directly challenged you to prove it.

if you refuse town, people will just start looking through your ISO and think to themselves "DAMN, jake is right. Fuzzy isn't doing anything but fluff posting"

and then it's a downward spiral with you being lynched.

so don't do it cause I ask you, do it cause you want to show the rest of town you are actually trying to find scum.

Btw, this post is practically telling people to vote for me.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:21 pm
by Jake from State Farm
In post 280, fuzzybutternut wrote:
In post 75, fuzzybutternut wrote:I'm sorry, I love Harry Potter way too much to let these comments go. So just bare with me. :)

Ghostlin! You scum again?

Hey, Jake, did you catch this in my ISO, or did you completely overlook it to gain a shit wagon on me?
that isn't scum hunting. if you honestly think that is and you are town :facepalm:

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:21 pm
by Jake from State Farm
In post 281, fuzzybutternut wrote:Btw, this post is practically telling people to vote for me.
people should be voting for you

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:22 pm
by Jake from State Farm
In post 169, fuzzybutternut wrote:...Saint wtf are you doing?
please explain to me how you were trying to catch scum in this post

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:22 pm
by Jake from State Farm
In post 158, fuzzybutternut wrote:Lying=\=scum
or this one

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:23 pm
by fuzzybutternut
In post 282, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 280, fuzzybutternut wrote:
In post 75, fuzzybutternut wrote:I'm sorry, I love Harry Potter way too much to let these comments go. So just bare with me. :)

Ghostlin! You scum again?

Hey, Jake, did you catch this in my ISO, or did you completely overlook it to gain a shit wagon on me?
that isn't scum hunting. if you honestly think that is and you are town :facepalm:
Did I say it was?

No. I said "Ignore those comments." Meaning they're literally NOT going to go away. So get over it.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:26 pm
by Jake from State Farm
In post 286, fuzzybutternut wrote:
In post 282, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 280, fuzzybutternut wrote:
In post 75, fuzzybutternut wrote:I'm sorry, I love Harry Potter way too much to let these comments go. So just bare with me. :)

Ghostlin! You scum again?

Hey, Jake, did you catch this in my ISO, or did you completely overlook it to gain a shit wagon on me?
that isn't scum hunting. if you honestly think that is and you are town :facepalm:
Did I say it was?

No. I said "Ignore those comments." Meaning they're literally NOT going to go away. So get over it.
what does those comments have to do with your claim that you have been scum hunting?

why, when I am asking you to provide evidence of your scum hunting, do you quote that post if it wasn't to show you scum hunting?

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:42 pm
by fuzzybutternut
In post 287, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 286, fuzzybutternut wrote:
In post 282, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 280, fuzzybutternut wrote:
In post 75, fuzzybutternut wrote:I'm sorry, I love Harry Potter way too much to let these comments go. So just bare with me. :)

Ghostlin! You scum again?

Hey, Jake, did you catch this in my ISO, or did you completely overlook it to gain a shit wagon on me?
that isn't scum hunting. if you honestly think that is and you are town :facepalm:
Did I say it was?

No. I said "Ignore those comments." Meaning they're literally NOT going to go away. So get over it.
what does those comments have to do with your claim that you have been scum hunting?

why, when I am asking you to provide evidence of your scum hunting, do you quote that post if it wasn't to show you scum hunting?
Because you quoted posts of mine that were strictly related to the post I quoted. I.e. you were trying to incriminate me for something that I blatantly told you to ignore.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:42 pm
by RachMarie
misspelling bear is a town tell?

bear with me not bare with me. that one and someone saying I am board instead of bored drive me nuts, though I am not quite the Grammar Nazi NS is.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:43 pm
by RachMarie
BTW if Ghost is scum do you really think he would say yes?

I think you need to work on your scum hunting skillz dude...

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:13 pm
by fuzzybutternut
In post 289, RachMarie wrote:misspelling bear is a town tell?

bear with me not bare with me. that one and someone saying I am board instead of bored drive me nuts, though I am not quite the Grammar Nazi NS is.
Eh. Lack of sleep. Etc. Etc.

And uh, that wasn't even serious. >.<

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:18 pm
by penguin_alien
In post 212, Saint wrote:
In post 192, penguin_alien wrote:Hey, ArcAngel9, why zero comments on anything past RVS? An opinion on Saint vs. Lord Mhork? Or anything else?

Jake from State Farm, your push on DeasVail doesn't track from an outside perspective. Is there some play history you have with him that makes you think what you're pointing out goes with him being scum? And I'm not sure why you don't see the problem with Saint going 'This quote here from ArcAngel9 [insert quote from DeasVail] is something town would say, so ArcAngel9 must be town.' If it's a mistake, fine, but why not acknowledge it promptly? It's easy to pull the wrong quote when assembling a post, but trying to hold onto a read with a demonstrable lack of basis isn't symptomatic of town trying to establish genuine reads.

Saint, first you find DeasVail's quote (the one attributed to AA9) very towny, you continually list him as a town read, and then off the fact that he asked you to back up the perfunctory moving of your vote from ArcAngel9 to SafetyDance, he becomes your top scum read? Can you break that down further? Because while I get keeping your word re: voting the next person who votes you, useless though such a move may be, your settling there for a time wasn't very pro-town and was worth questioning at the least.
penguin your feeble attempts at appearing intelligent are seriously only coming across as a confusing mess
try to tone it down, please

don't analyze my play. it will be way over your head. thanks.
In post 213, Saint wrote:
In post 194, DeasVail wrote:DoctorPepper is a nothing read, Ghostlin is a content-filled nothing read, Saint is a 'I don't even know what's going on, but maybe town' read, and TMT is still scummy but I want to see more.
finally, a female that admits she doesn't understand me
take notes, penguin alien
So you're posting like a rude and condescending misogynist. That doesn't address the question being asked.

Jake from State Farm, I'll buy that DeasVail pushed your buttons immediately with his 'altering fuzzybutternut's post' joke. The way you focused in on him so quickly seemed really definitive for never having played with him before.

As for why he's not currently a scum read for me, when I played with him as scum in the past, he tended to make cases based on extrapolating how people should be reacting to events, whereas here he's making cases based on actual posts. It's not a strong town read, but I'm certainly not interested in lynching him.
In post 240, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:If I was fencesitting, then explain 125. [editing in 125 for reference]
In post 125, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote:If it comes down to Lord Mhork and Saint, I am voting Saint.
It wasn't an opinion, I changed it because I ignored some points that I hadn't looked at earlier.
You completely overreacted to a flip flop and it feels like you're pouncing on a nulltell.

VOTE: Ghostlin
TMTOLBTWNTOF, The thing I see here is that you're saying that if it comes down to lynching one of two people you'll pick one rather than not pick at all. I don't agree that it's fence-sitting, but it's really passive. At that point you weren't taking a stand and saying one person was a scum read. Between your conclusion from #124 and #125, you could make the argument that Saint was anything from a null to scum read, with Lord Mhork anywhere on the townier side of wherever you put Saint. And that's a stance that leaves you a lot of wiggle room depending on a flip.

WRT fuzzybutternut, according to his Wiki page he has two scum games completed. Both Newbie games, both drastically different in content than what he's posting here, or in completed town games that I've seen. Jake from State Farm, I agree that fuzzy isn't posting in a very pro-town manner, but his lack of scum hunting is dead-on his town meta. Maybe he's gotten better at playing to his town meta as scum, but without some reason to think that's the case, I'm doubtful.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:50 pm
by fuzzybutternut
^have you looked at my Wiki recently? Did it not update? :S

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:54 pm
by Saint
am playing a quick game of quidditch
will post thoughts momentarily

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 7:56 pm
by fuzzybutternut
In post 294, Saint wrote:am playing a quick game of quidditch
will post thoughts momentarily
Watch out for the bludgors. Nasty little boogers.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:00 pm
by penguin_alien
In post 293, fuzzybutternut wrote:^have you looked at my Wiki recently? Did it not update? :S
I'm only seeing Newbie 1337 and Newbie 1340 listed as scum games. Some of them aren't mentioned as anything; are those two Newbie games your most recent completed scum games?

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:03 pm
by fuzzybutternut
God no. Those were ages ago. I have ~30 completed games on site. I started updating last night and got tired of typing, so I quit. Venrob's EpicMafia Adventure mafia (in my wiki) is a scum game also. I can link you to some more recently completed ones.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:10 pm
by penguin_alien
No rush, as I'm turning in for the night, but if you give me the game names or numbers as you did for Venrob's, I can find them in your topics; no links necessary.

Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:23 pm
by fuzzybutternut
Sure thing. Umm..I'll just go look at that now. :S

I forget what games I was scum in.