Mini 274: Lying Cheating Scumbag Mafia - GAME OVER


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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:25 am

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Ok, I've been looking at who died so far:
2 vanilla townies
2 mafia
1 cross between Doc & Roleblocker
1 Noticeboard manager
1 'Negotiator'

Of the 5 people alive we most likely have:
1 investigative/information role (because so far no investigative roles died)
1 protection role (because the mafia kill was prevented last night)
1 mafia (because we know we had 3 to begin with)
1 SK or Vig, to account for Glork and the extra kill on Night 1
1 other

I think we can figure this out with a mass claim, don't you agree?
Anyone in favor of a mass claim raise their hand *raises hand*
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:25 am

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Mass claim works for me. Mines already out there
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:34 am

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Yeah. Well, if the majority decides to go for it, Sotty will choose the next person to claim (since she already claimed), then that person will choose the next, and so on.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:51 am

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As long as the majority agrees to it, I'm fine.
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:58 am

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we'll probably need a prod on the other two as they have been kinda lurky
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:55 pm

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Sotty7 wrote:we'll probably need a prod on the other two as they have been kinda lurky
Im happy for a mass claim….
But Im more happy for CD to choose the order then anyone else
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:09 am

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Common practice is that the first person to claim chooses the second, the second chooses the third, and so on. I think Sotty should name the next person, and we can go from there.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:40 am

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davidangelsummers wrote:
Sotty7 wrote:we'll probably need a prod on the other two as they have been kinda lurky
Im happy for a mass claim….
But Im more happy for CD to choose the order then anyone else
Why CD? Sure he has moved down my list a little since what happened yesterday but I'm still suspicious of him.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:23 am

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Honestly, if I didn't know there's only 1 mafioso alive, I would have suspected david and CD in some sort of covert cooperation...

But since scum-cooperation is not possible, david is probably trying to tell us that he believes CD to be the least suspicious; however, david, you got it backwards. That's not how a mass claim works. We
do not
first determine who is most/least suspicious and use this information to claim. We first claim, and then use this information to determine who is most/least suspicious.

Sotty, choose a player to claim next if you please.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:31 am

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Fair enough

I want N_lich to claim first. I have PM'ed him to get him to check the thread
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:05 pm

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N_Lich is a basic townie. That's what he said in the pm he sent me yesterday. I'm more inclined to believe him because of the things he pmed me about. I don't really want to reveal anything we discussed until he comes up again.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:59 pm

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CD,

The fact you are 'inclined to believe' N_Lich means nothing to me. For what I know you could be either:
- scum trying to get on the good side of a townie
- townie being duped by a scum into defending him the same way RotN was duped by DP

So forgive me if I find your post not particularly useful (other than N_Lich's claim, but we still need to wait for him to utter it himself).
Also, I'd like to say that for a game titled
Lying Cheating Scumbag Mafia
, there's sure a lot of trust going around... [/sarcasm]
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:36 pm

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I'm incined to believe because of what he said. In addition, his post implicated another and possibly hinted on another role possibility. It isn't a very convincing argument, but I do agree that we have to wait for N_Lich to respond.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:12 pm

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I'm gone until next tuesday. Promise me not to break any rules, ok? If you need prods, just do it yourself. I'll replace anyone who needs thus on Tuesday if requested before then.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:19 pm

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CD...you shouldn't have claimed for N_Lich. Kinda deafets the whole point of this mass claim don't you think?
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:14 am

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Ok, we seem to be having a real problem with N_lich. He is lurking
deliberately


1. I saw him logged in last night... no posts from him.
2. The mod of another game N_lich is in (Kingmaker mafia) says N_lich is picking up his PM yet deliberately declining to post
BrianMcQueso wrote:N_lich has picked up his prod and has still refused to post. I am seeking a replacement, likely LoudmouthLee.
3. Another player in the game told me N_lich picked up a PM from him/her as well

For now, I think the best option is to just assume his public claim will be the same as his claim by PM, and proceed with the mass claim as usual. Opinions?
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:35 am

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That's OK with me, I'd rather keep the game moving then sit around waiting for one player. Skipping over N_lich, CD I pick you to claim instead.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:57 am

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Hmm... There should be a replacement for him. Aside from that, N_lich has more to his role then just "basic townie". A mass claim should be left as a last resort when there's nothing left to gain. Since I still have information I want to present, I'd like a hold off on the mass claim for now.
According to N_Lich, his role says that someone has information on his role, but he forgot who. As a result, he eventually wound up contacting me. Now for my claim.

I'm a basic townie. My roles states that I had information on someone, but I lost it. The pm david presented before was mine and I requested him to send out the message. From what N_Lich and I discussed, we both don't have the information, so he theorized that there is another who has it.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:08 pm

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I'm not the one who has the information you seek. It's either david, or the entire 'lost information' thing is a red herring... or a wild goosechase, like REDFOX.

CD, I see no benefit holding off the claim now. Also, I don't understand what prompted the change in your opinion between 278 and 292. 3 claims are already out there, david and I are also up for it, and I don't mind being the next (or david can be next, your call).
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:24 pm

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The change in opinion is mostly because I was waiting for N_Lich to respond. Since he hasn't, I'm considering my choices. I'd like at least a hold off until David and sotty can comment about it. When I mean comment, I mean comment on the new information, not on how my actions suck or etc.
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:32 pm

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To really be honest CD I don't like the way you have talked for and defended N_Lich over these last few posts. I just can't believe you would trust a player so much in a game like this when all you have to take them on is their word. The reason I asked N_Lich to claim first is because he is my number one suspect right now, so your actions are really starting to frustrate me.

I already knew about your information hunt because you had PM'ed me about it too on day one. Did you end up PMing everyone about this or just certain people? If so, who?
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:55 pm

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N_Lich revealed his role to me before I've even tried to contact him and either by coincidence or honesty, his role is extremely simliar to mine. He contacted me after a basic townie died, therefore I'm not quite sure how scum would know to use a "basic townie" in the pm. As such, I'm temporarily believing him for the sake of catching scum.

I did pm others, but the pms were not necesarily the same. I ended up contacting only specific people.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:57 pm

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chaotic_diablo wrote:He contacted me after a basic townie died, therefore I'm not quite sure how scum would know to use a "basic townie" in the pm.
Do you mean he contacted you
before
a basic townie died?
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:03 pm

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He contacted me after. Since there was an example of a regular townie right there, I have no idea why scum would pick a "basic townie" for this type of role, especially one that corresponds to mine so well.
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:08 pm

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Ok, I'm somewhat lost with regards to the timetable here, so help me out here.

- The death of the first basic townie was revealed on the morning of Day 2.
- Same morning, david said someone contacted him overnight fishing for information. That someone was obviously you, CD.
- You also said you contacted other people at the same time, ie. during Night 1.
- Now you say than N_lich contacted you AFTER a basic townie died, but BEFORE you contacted him.
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