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I disagree. People apparently like them so I have to state my opinion on them. Also, the fact that Vierra wants a PL is part of the reason I am voting them so if I have to say why.

In post 267, Viera Assassin wrote:< would like charizard and Guyett pl'd if possible

Policy lynching on day 1? Really? how does this help town?

In post 274, Brian Skies wrote:

In post 272, Bert wrote:Why did you choose Sakura to look at first with regard to past games? Curious choice

You should already know the answer Bert, but I can't say the reason why.

Hint: Sakura wasn't the reason I was reading that game. She just happened to be in it.

Please explain this Brian

Lucky can wait until tomorrow. Viera has done NOTHING protown at all
31 flavour claim for the lolz
32 hydra head hunting is not relevant
39, 51, 54 and 56 all fluff
255 buddying lucky, not reason for vote at all.
267 and 269 requesting policy lynches for the laugh on day 1 is so super scummy

VOTE: Viera

I feel like I know Viera, but I don't think I've played with her before. Is she an alt of someone?

@lucky
Yes.


Killing off big liabilities to town like Guyett isn't a bad start for us.

You do realize that you are one too right Viera?

over half this town is a liability to town IMO, killing them off will likely cause us to lose :/

~L

In post 204, Bert wrote:Mara!!!!!!!

Mara!!!!!

!!!!!

Hi there Bert <3

~L

In post 281, Viera Assassin wrote:@lucky
Yes.


Killing off big liabilities to town like Guyett isn't a bad start for us.

So you would kill off town as I am a "liability to town"... how is this going to help town in the long run?

Note the use of the word kill rather than the word lynch.

Ok

Lets break down the reasons to why you're scum shall we?

For the most part, you've been on the defensive/Evasive and I really don't like it

I asked you if the vote was serious, and you give me a round about answer. Yeah, I can see that you havn't been serious most of the game, I havn't been serious until I placed down that vote. In the attempt to move out of RVS, and get pressure on the first unanimously decided scumspect

Cabd is another, but we are still waiting for M's imput on him, but he is also another person I wish death upon

any who, back to you

I declare the 1v1, in an attempt to try and get a better grasp on you, but instead of being receptive and letting it happen you just try and find various reasons to make it not happen

I called you out for putting us at L-1, but instead of just saying "no" you try to rationalize something that totally doesn't really need to be rationalized as well as tried to Pin Bert as scum for sheeping I think...

In any case, you did try and shift responsibilty for our wagon and that, in of itself, is scummy

BTW, you voting us and the placement of the vote on us isn't the reason why we think you are scummy. It's your reactions to everything we do, everything we say, and your opportunistic stances

Going forward, you stated that we have thrown random crap at you, we havn't. everything we've done at that point was gauge your reactions (Bert take note love) and it is one of the most richest reactions I have gotten in such a long time, it's going to take a while to get it all sorted out

anyway, we havn't thrown any crap at you. not at the point where you accuse us of doing so.We have called you scum, yes, but we havn't even presented any reasons for why until I pointed it out in my case that you apparently don't see as one but that was way after the entire interaction has occured

after making those accusations, you call us out for being a possible jester (which I find to be incredibly amusing, and am currently trying to figure out if it actually does make you more likely town rather than scum) and you plant the seeds that you will later use as a way to make any argument that we may make in the future invalid

at this point, your tone and posture already read as Scum backed up against a wall over town who is upset over being wrongfully read

BUT THEN, THEN

you finally call us scum, you finally admit that you think that we are scum, but your accusation towards us? it's we are not properly playing which is weird because if we are scum (as I have stated earlier) then we are properly playing. I can admit that the attacks prior to you finally calling us scum was unsubstantiated, but you yourself won't admit to yourself that your attacks are just as. why?

152 was a case, it explain our thoughts on why you are scum, it explains your mindset in our POV, and the incongruence between your statements and your attacks

and then you make your lovely, lovely Gambit which is more you trying to get us lynched, and surviving another day than an actual gambit. I will admit, here I have gotten shaky ground, but R has pointed out that the Gambit is a means to get us lynched because you even stated that we should go first because we were already at L-2 at that time. you were already looking for a mislynch AND it already serves as a means to look like you are actually town, a means of gaining artificial town cred.

you realize that it isn't probable for us to back down from our attacks against you, especially since you havn't given us any reason to do so and thus, you finally advance.

and at the end of it, I explain where my case was, and you explain that you like LOGIC and aren't ruled by emotions however nothing you've done is logical, and everything you've done is some kind of AtE. If you are a logical type of person, then AtE shouldn't be a natural course of actions for you.

it's further proof that your actions are contrived this game

at the point you talk about emotions, no one has called you out on it so...?

It is a taaaaddd bit towish that you decided to ignore me saying that exploiting me is the best way to gain a town-read on you, and thus stop the attacking however it isn't enough for me

as for your question, 172 and 173 are individual opinions.

I am thoroughly amused to be both a town-lean and a scum-lean for you though as per 227

after it's proven that we are going to be a tough person to fight with, you decide to go after lurker Guyett, ignoring every other person who wasn't really active at that time. Viera included

230 was a wierd post and I'm going to have to concur with R there. Emotion wise, it doesn't really belong, I don't think we have pushed you to that point, and if we have it's because you have done shit. The emotion there is akin to someone who as broken down, I don't think you've gotten to that point yet, considering your quick jump back into the game soon after (in reference to your post which comes a couple hours after said post)

and soon after, you agree that guyett is town? the guy you have voted for, and called scum? what caused the quick turnaround there?

and Jesus, more scumesque AtE after your VT claim


and to others in this game

NACHO, YOU SCUM FUCK WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN LEAVING ME OUT IN THE DARK LIKE THIS

From yours truly,

~L

Shiney what do you make of other players so far?

Bert-town

Guyett-town

slightly weaker mononoke-town

Viera-null

Beast-null-scum

Lucky-null-scum

Cabd-probable scum

Skies-scum

~L

beast and lucky are more at the town side of null imo, but otherwise im in agreement with the above reads.

R~

In post 259, Guyett wrote:

In post 257, Mononoke wrote:

In post 222, Guyett wrote:Any reason?

Beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice. Why were you following along without talking about anything that happened?

I'm sure I've explained this already. I had RL stuff. I was at my post grad supervisors BBQ on Friday, a beer fest on Saturday and in work on Sunday. other games were running into deadlines so this game went on the backburner.

I understand it was on the backburner. But why were you still following this game if you weren't paying attention to it? Why did you respond when someone scumread you?

In post 260, Guyett wrote:It is a tactic I have seen in other games. Why would you want to put yourself out there as mega town so early in the game? you're just setting yourself up for a likely NK imo.

So?

In post 264, Brian Skies wrote:Everyone's been saying Shiny is probably town, but I can't logically see this through our interactions. Is it a meta thing? Or am I missing something really important?

I hope to explain this soon.

In post 285, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:NACHO, YOU SCUM FUCK WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN LEAVING ME OUT IN THE DARK LIKE THIS

I don't feel I have.

you have actually

what are your reads?

R~

You totally have

I mean, I understand that you're busy being scum in Con-mafia to give scumsakura the backbone she deserves from you this game, but at least try and look townish for me please

~L

In post 292, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:I mean, I understand that you're busy being scum in Con-mafia

lol'd

Also why are you interested in Nacho's read and not mine?

~Sakura Hana

We have seen more than enough from you Sakura

right now, there is a little bit of argument amongst our heads about you, particularly between me/R and M

I think that, Nacho posts will help with the sorting out a bit

~L

VOTE: Mononoke

~M~

So you vote us because you want to see more of Nacho?

~Sakura Hana

Nope, you been reading the past two posts? That should clue you in to why I'm voting you.

I don't care if Nacho spams the thread, he's not the reason I'm voting.

~M~

Yeah ok, I see Mara still can't read me worth anything

~Sakura Hana

Wrong, actually.

Why the auto-discred rather than ask what was bugging me?

~M~