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In post 269, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 266, Tammy wrote:But how will I know who scum are if you're not around to hold my hand?

Also, I know you claimed omgus on ot, but what do you think of my reasoning for rufflig scum?

Pedit: nacho

i dunno rufflig scum seems pretty likely but i always think rufflig scum

In post 180, ProHawk wrote:Its actually great Mac

In post 197, Tammy wrote:Also what makes you think scum don't start wagons?

In post 208, The Rufflig wrote:

In post 201, Tammy wrote:Haven't read the game.

Here. Have some incentive to do so.

VOTE: Tammy

In post 228, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:yeah ok that's terrible.

VOTE: rufflig

i was thinking that prohawk would've been more productive but this works as well

In post 277, Mac wrote:aaaand possibly orcinus

In post 282, Nachomamma8 wrote:Is orc town?

In post 280, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 277, Mac wrote:aaaand possibly orcinus

Talk to me about this.

In post 283, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:i'd offer to talk to nacho but i know that probably won't amount to anything

mac what's up

In post 284, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 282, Nachomamma8 wrote:Is orc town?

flashes of paranoia about how easily he townread me. And the flashes of paranoia feel a little off. I feel like real paranoia would look more like that at-arms-length feel I had about him in the NY 165 game. He wasn't pushing me often, but he definitely wasn't buying my early reads wholesale.

In post 283, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:i'd offer to talk to nacho but i know that probably won't amount to anything

mac what's up

In post 285, Mac wrote:

In post 280, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 277, Mac wrote:aaaand possibly orcinus

Talk to me about this.

his play feels off this game. he doesn't feel town. gut perhaps.

meanwhile, you can talk to me about kaze?

In post 104, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:fery if you're manipulating me here i'll kill you

i think you are town though

In post 289, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 285, Mac wrote:

In post 280, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 277, Mac wrote:aaaand possibly orcinus

Talk to me about this.

his play feels off this game. he doesn't feel town. gut perhaps.

meanwhile, you can talk to me about kaze?

Scum Kaze:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

He was scum with me, replaced in partway through day 1. This game was the basis for his accusation that I could be manipulating my meta results, because I handwaved the hell out of his meta to call him null-town.


His first scum game (also his first MS game)

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

I can go through a detailed analysis if I really need to, but I think the differences are pretty obvious

In post 291, Mac wrote:

In post 289, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 285, Mac wrote:

In post 280, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 277, Mac wrote:aaaand possibly orcinus

Talk to me about this.

his play feels off this game. he doesn't feel town. gut perhaps.

meanwhile, you can talk to me about kaze?

Scum Kaze:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

He was scum with me, replaced in partway through day 1. This game was the basis for his accusation that I could be manipulating my meta results, because I handwaved the hell out of his meta to call him null-town.


His first scum game (also his first MS game)

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

I can go through a detailed analysis if I really need to, but I think the differences are pretty obvious

so he's more serious as scum? i really briefly skimmed that iso but that was the main thing i gathered.

In post 292, fferyllt wrote:

In post 291, Mac wrote:

In post 289, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 285, Mac wrote:

In post 280, Deacon Blues wrote:

In post 277, Mac wrote:aaaand possibly orcinus

Talk to me about this.

his play feels off this game. he doesn't feel town. gut perhaps.

meanwhile, you can talk to me about kaze?

Scum Kaze:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

He was scum with me, replaced in partway through day 1. This game was the basis for his accusation that I could be manipulating my meta results, because I handwaved the hell out of his meta to call him null-town.


His first scum game (also his first MS game)

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

I can go through a detailed analysis if I really need to, but I think the differences are pretty obvious

so he's more serious as scum? i really briefly skimmed that iso but that was the main thing i gathered.

More serious, softer stances, and more non-scumhunting content. Note particularly all the complaining about meta and discussion prior games in the first link. I did a read of all his completed games for the first game I played with him because he was getting FoSed and somewhat run-up. I had a town read, but wasn't listened to as much as I liked, so I threw some meta reasons to go with the in-thread stuff I thought made him town.

Anyway, his playstyle has evolved since that first game, and it appears to be taking another turn. But, the fundamentals are still there wrt to his town game.

In post 288, Nachomamma8 wrote:

In post 283, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:i'd offer to talk to nacho but i know that probably won't amount to anything

mac what's up

i was expecting another discredit regardless of your alignment, which is sort of sad.

In post 153, Nachomamma8 wrote:I also didn't like orc's "oh ffery I don't want to think you're manipulating me" or some crap like that, but I can't read orc worth a crap so take that with several grains of salt.

In post 290, Mac wrote:your early vote on fuzzy felt like you were trying to take advantage of what kaze was trying to pull with the gambit. you did say it was for him being awkward though, which summed up how i was feeling but it annoyed me how it came after the vote.

I voted him initially as a reaction test. I kept my vote on him because he was being weird.

In post 104, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:fery if you're manipulating me here i'll kill you

i think you are town though

this felt forced and i didn't understand why you felt the need to post it as town.

Because I am friends with fery and so I do have banter with her sometimes.

Also because I feel like she might have been doing something that was focused on me if she were scum

voting in spirit with tammy wasn't great either: why not just vote with her instead? you were called out by rufflig (albeit poorly) and then you reacted by claiming it solidified your scumread on him (and then actually voting him.) it's like you were avoiding the wagon until it became easier to hop on.

Yeah sorry this doesn't make sense. Like I said I thought the Prohawk wagon would be more productive, so that's where I kept my vote until Rufflig said something really stupid.

It's almost like I voted Rufflig when Rufflig became scummier!!!

meh. you're not my top scumread, but you're there and i'm worried.

In post 294, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:gee oh gee i wonder fucking why

In post 296, The Rufflig wrote:What!!!?

My post was bad??? Did any of you read orcinus' post? And you don't see it? What is this a newbie game where I have to explain everything? Fine.

What was wrong with orcinus' post was a few things. Voting in spirit is egging on a wagon that one is not a part of and has not commented on -- very bad. It is vague and non-committal. Second, orcinus' vote was only on Prohawk as a pressure vote, if he thought he had ground to vote someone else there was absolutely no town reason not to do change his vote - don't tell me he simply forgot considering the words he used. Scum, however, would be more inclined to see which way the wind blows before making a stand one way or another - which is exactly the sort of behavior orcinus displayed.