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Also, you wanna know something?

I used to be like you, Wake. Only sticking to one game or two so I could dedicate all this time trying to find scum.

But then I decided that I was trying too hard for it to be fun for me. So I decided to just join multiple games and play however I want, as long as I have fun.

Reading a lot of words? Not fun. Making that analysis of you? Not fun.

Do you have fun playing Mafia, Wake? Or does it seem like a chore because you're so worried about building up this profile of this "excellent meta" you're priding yourself over, or maybe you're too worried about winning to have fun? I just don't see how all that writing you do is fun.

(Maybe I should just accept that I'm different from you and move on.)

In post 274, Does Bo Know wrote:I think if more games is halting your ability to overperform, then you should replace out or tough it up and never expect to gain any sympathy for being in more games than you could handle.

Yep.

I'm currently in 8 games and modding 2. Oh and did I mention I work OT like a slave and keep a house too?

doesn't fuckin matter cuz I /inned for this game with every intention of playing it with my attention 100% in it. And I am. If it's too much for you and your games are suffering for it, allow someone else to take the slot who can give it the love and attention we all deserve.

So here's my ultimatum, Wake:

- Replace out
- Give your conclusions complaining about being spread thin ever again

Or

I might just park my vote and jam the transmission.

I don't know, I think this is pretty fair, considering how anti-town it would be to any other option besides the ones I'm giving you.

PEdit: I may not pay 100% attention all the time like ETL does, but basically the moral of the story is don't give people shit about being spread too thin when there are no issues with you replacing out of a game or two.

OK I am on site right now and posting in other threads, but those are where I am up to date on the game so far. I need to read this thread from the beginning and will do that today and post today.

In post 239, gamsimbre wrote:
My reasoning is pressure. Wagoning is a great tool to see how people react which is what I got from lucky. Keep in mind too my vote on lucky was not random. Kalimar put wake at L2 when the game immediately started, so we need to hear his reasoning whenever he decides to show up.

Having a wagon going is all you need to be in favor of it?
I'm not sure what your vote put lucky onto, but I did notice that wagon also reached L-2 - do why are we needing to wait for that vote reasoning in particular, rather than for example, just more content?

ok have finished reading going to type it up, man there is a lot here....

OK, theses are my notes on my thoughts as they appear as I read through. I have linked to the posts instead of direct quoting to try and keep the size down to a small wall, the one I am about to build. I will attempt to reference back where it is required

The Night 0 result and subsequent discussion, that has basically raged directly and indirectly through the thread is of course worth of comment. When I first saw it. I thought hey that’s great its got the discussion going but then I thought what if it had not, what if it had back fired? Seemed to have been a gamble that could have backfired, but did not. Does it make me suspicious? Not really based on what has appeared in thread since then , so right off the bat I will say BB is town.
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ETL your post 52 sorry but was does Mk stand for? Completely confuddled me.
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Gam 57 that was very captain obvious, why even post it, but then later events which I will cover seem to answer that, but not directly.
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62 BB, would agree with this in that it is not relevant to his alignment. But a question came to mind, Wake is not a Newbie and so his reaction could be controlled could it not?

67 BB, this at the time of reading is a true statement but It is a gamble all the same and DBK does cover this in his post 68 and again in 85 but then I want to tie this into later observations regarding DBK.
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75 and 76 are we serious here? It’s a joke…

this then goes on for some time from 80 onwards. The discussion surrounds this RVS vote by Lucky to here 95 can I ask why you are not voting for me? I mean, I have not made one vote not even an RVS vote. Not that RVS lasted that long.
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115 and 115 Gam - my notes say “he is defending himself from a rather pointless attack IMO. But one you initially agree on then turn it around in a heartbeat to a vote” at this point a vote was needed against you it was scummy IMO. However I see that I was not the only one 117 and 124. This also ties into my observation above on your post 57. You are not doing much at all are you?

231 does not help
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Lucky 126are you even reading the thread, the question here is pointless.
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DBK 130 in what way? Why do you find him town?
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139 to 142 nothing jumps out of me in this interchange but I see later it does for BB 251, I don’t get it BB you mention the concept of anti town 253, how is it ant- itown?

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Zebe 143 my notes say Eh? Meaning I initially did not see the reason for your vote or the way you describe your reads. However the use of the the words you use is covered later and you do explain your vote. You explain your votes again in 163 But I find it fairly weak, do you still hold this a reason for a vote? Although your statement in 151 is weird considering we did not stay in RVS that long. DBK picks this up in his post 152
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174 Wake at this point misses the reason for the vote, see my above.
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177 at the time of this post I am leaning towards town on you.
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At this point in my notes I have written this

DBK is Kissing up to ETL..? This begins to be so evident around 193 onwards And I am not the only one 208

Then this happens

228 and 230 get a room guys.. FFS


Oh hang on ETL warns him off…. 235

Oh dear what ever happened to 24 and 26

One of these two is scum…. IMO
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ETLs 203 makes sense but I still lean town on Wake.
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DBK 209 what? Are you saying that the use of too many words is indicative of being scum? if so then you really need to broaden your viewpoint
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DBK you are a little sheepish aren’t you?

VOTE: DBK

We're not lynching DBK, we're lynching a lurker.

Dead serious.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aptil

I'm trying to work with ETL because of my confidence in her towniness. I was thinking she townread me and that we could work together, but she burned that bridge. (Which is technically okay because she's conftown to me at this point for her reaction.)

Smudger: Why do you think Wake is town?

I never said fluff was indicative of scumminess. Tell me exactly where I say that.

A little sheepish? Bruh I sheep errbody.

Smudger can be scum.

VOTE: Smudger

And then I think you had some question about why I thought one of Gam's posts was town. I forgot why because ETL convinced me that it could be scummy so I helped pursue it.

lol OMGUS .. come to mind but there you are..

Stop dude

Unless you have a reason better than "His reasoning on me is shitty!"

Actually nah

UNVOTE:

I'm being way too unbiased with that vote. I half-ass read only the parts about me, so I'll actually read it tomorrow.

April hasn't posted in a while, I totally forgot.

PEdit: Lol I was hoping you two wouldn't come down on me before I posted this but here we are.

Way too biased*

It's okay I forgive you

Fun fact: DBK did you know you were an SE in my first game at this site?

THATS WHERE I KNOW YOU FROM

OH SHIT which one was that?

Just checked, Newbie 1117.

I had to replace out though.

I hadn't really bothered to get any better clearly. But you've grown up so much. Or something.

Wow this is weird.

Okay time for bed night night.

Night

Yeah I wanted us to no lynch the first day and basically got lynched for it. I was right out of epicmafia.

In post 285, Does Bo Know wrote:Smudger: Why do you think Wake is town?

because his argument, when not centred on himself make sense to me. I agree with his stance on Lucky and the RVS vote I also agree that his reaction to the fake night 0 result was town, I will say that I am leaning that way, I am conscious of what I have already said. Wake is experienced and could actually have faked his reaction..

Great Smudger is obviously town, game's 2easy