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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:28 pm

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Cult conversations. Keep in mind that cult members could only communicate with Tamuz, not other cult members.


ESP transmission from LoudmouthLee
Dear Tamuz

I think both Haut and Streeflo are scum. I also believe that we should claim masons. What do you think?

As for the recruit for Tomorrow, I believe Undo would make a good candidate. He has solic logic.


ESP transmission from Tamuz to LML
Haut, stree, and drake are all really ugly in my book, but I think theres at least one genuine newbie in that bunch. I can see an easy connection between H & either of the others, but not between S & D. Undo would work as a recruit, although I'm looking for someone who has powers, most beneficially a vig, if we have one.

As for masonclaim, yes... if we must, but I don't plan to "must" and I doubt you do either.

--T


Msg from LoudmouthLee
Tamuz. I hope you're recruiting Undo. I have a plan. Trust me. We will win this game EASILY.


Msg from Tamuz to LML
Alright, your win is in your able hands [open smiley]


ESP msg from LML
Did it go through? Who did you recruit?


ESP message from Tamuz to LML
I've heeded your advice, we were successful pulling in Undo.


ESP transmission from Tamuz to undo
Hey there, welcome aboard, for now its you me and LML, if you have any questions, complaints or concerns please voice them.


ESP transmission from LML!
Dear Tamuz-

Welcome to the Mafia. You will recruit our last member, and then you will STOP recruiting.

We are pulling for a Mafia / Cult dual win here, and we can easily do it. You have no choice but to go with this. Expose us, and we'll expose you. Neither of us will have a chance of winning.

Every day, I will alert you to our kills. You may claim unnightkillable, if you wish. I believe we're the only killing party along with you.

With you, you make our voting block 4 strong. This means, with another mislynch, we can have them at LAL by tomorrow.

I will expose our last member when you message back stating that you understand that you are now a proxy mafia member.


ESP msg from undo
What is our goal now?


from Tamuz to LML
LML: I expected as much when you told me you wanted me to recruit undo. As much as I want to play hero, just to make the game most interesting, I know that my almost 100% chance of winning is with you guys, whereas if I revealed you my chance would drop to somewhere around 0. So, I hear and agree, lets get ourselves a win.
Oh, and couldn't I recruit someone not the 3rd scum, and that would give us a 5 block, voting superiority tomorrow, and then get your last member the next night?

to Undo:
Our goal: kill someone who isn't you, me, LML, or your other member, then basically have vote superiority the next day for the win.


from LML
It's a pity that this game is so.. meh. There would have been Scummy Award possibilities for the way this game was had.

Easily, recruit Pete tonight. We'll lynch Drake tomorrow. Drake, nor Pete, are members of our gang. However, just make sure that you tell Pete to lynch Drake.

THis should be game, set and match soon.


from Tamuz
Undo: Pete d is now with us, uh, lets just try not to die, and find ourselves a vig to kill slash recruit

to Pete d:
Yer in the cult with me and Undo, LML was with us, but now he is dead... so we need to find whoever our rogue killers are (vig, sk?) and kil or recruit them. That and try to keep you me and undo alive, so we can get number superiority.


from pete d
Hey Tamuz, I just remembered, last night I got a message from the mod telling me I got a 1-shot daycop ability because I found a freaky hand mirror, I figure it must have been from an inventor role or something. I PM'd KC a while ago to ask if I could still use it now I was in the cult, she said I could, so I thought I'd consult you about who I should investigate. I have to send in a choice before a lynch occurs or before deadline, and I get the results at the end of the day / after the lynch or whatever (ie before you would have to make a nightchoice).

^---note the only fake claim in this game



from Tamuz to pete d
I'd advise on Lawrence, if I had to bet on someone being a killing role it would be him. But, take my suggestion with your own thoughts.


from pete d
It was a toss up between Lawrencelot and Eteocles, but I decided to investigate Eteocles. He came up scum. Hope that helps.


I believe this is the only mafia communication I have:

from LML:
undo wrote:
Tamuz recruited me into his cult last night
I thought that cult leaders died if they recruited mafia.
Request Kill: Ultimate Avalon. He voted for all three of us. He may be cop.
His vote on me was a OMGUS... But LML, if we kill him, people will probably notice that he were the only one to vote you, and you will be the center of suspicions... No?
As long as one cult member survives we win. We could win as CULT and as MAFIA. That would be SICK
I'm not understanding. Do we have to win with the cult or not?
Undo, you said you're a noob? You're playing like a pro.
Thank you... Glad to know I'm making progresses. :)

Now... Aren't we allowed to talk on MSN? This PM system is a bit dilatory...
Agreed. How about, instead, we get everyone's e-mail address. I believe that to be better.
Mod, do you want in on the scum talk? If so, please fwd me your e-mail addy too.


To make points:

The Cult is what we call a "stupid cult". He does not get allignment information. This is absolutely breakable for us, and he doesn't even know it.

By using him as a vote (which he has done already in the lynch of Hautboy), he is not, in turn, a 4th member of the mafia. He will be strongarmed into not recruiting anymore after he recruits. I will basically explain to him that he has effectively been "recruited" by the mafia. and we will split a cult/mafia win with him, as long as he doesn't recruit anymore. This is in his
best interest
surprisingly.

It concerns me that UA voted for all three of us, and I'm bound to die anyway. UA looks scummy with his hammer vote. Yosarian2 is very smart. I would LOVE to kill him.

I'm very concerned about the "hitpoint situation" but from a logistical standpoint, I would absolutely love to kill Yos2.

New Recommendation: Undo goes to Kill Yos2


Agreement, scumbuddies?
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:28 pm

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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:23 pm

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We killed Primate because we thought he was a cop. We (I) killed undo because I figured he or LML had pursuaded Tamuz to recruit the other.

That game was somewhat crazy. I was very surprised to find out on day 3 that there was a second mafia group.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:41 pm

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Heh Lawrencelot, I got a good read on both you and the mafia ;)

Ask Chen, I was sure to have my protection succeed that night after 3 re-reads!(for nothing alas)
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:29 pm

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Yeah, I would just about say I was overrated.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:28 pm

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Lol, ABR, thx for protecting me, it worked but there were already too many baddies.

I think this game was unbalanced for 1 reason: the first cult recruitment is a bit too important, because the second cult member (first recruitment) would try to get his other members joined. Mafia was at an advantage I think.

I thought town played very badly the first 2 days, but there were just too many mafia. I think no one did a bad job, looking at the roles. Congratulations mafia.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:42 pm

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Congratularions,
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mafia. Animal mafia lost :(

Well, I only regret those moments of inactivity... They spoiled the game a bit, but I liked it anyway. You can give us more of these, mod :D Thank you.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:37 am

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Yeah, the only reason there was a N0 was so I could ensure that the cult would make some appearance and not be lynched out of existence D1.

I ran numbers on the cult recruiter's odds of winning, given some assumptions I don't remember, and came up with about 2/3rds. That's not unreasonable for scum (assuming random moves).

But it's true, as soon as cult recruits mafia, the mafia wants his buddies in. And even if the cult recruiter thinks it's easier to win with town (which was definitely my first thought), recruiting mafia makes it less likely that the recruiter will get NKed.

Tamuz didn't know he had two hit points. He surely did not even know that the mafia were alerted to the existence of hit points.

Thok (who looked over and discussed the setup but said he couldn't tell whether it was balanced or not) guessed that the cult would be almost irrelevant. I tended to think so too, but that was pretty wrong!
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:41 am

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What's up with the 90% miss thing ? Flavor ?
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:45 am

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That was just a joke. Why would lynching a townie roleblock 90% of the scum? Scum would likely be on the wagon!

I didn't confirm it was a joke because I did at least plan to make references to hit points. So I didn't want to establish a precedent that I will tell players what's flavor and what might be real.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:26 am

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Kelly Chen wrote:I feel badly for the animal mafia, who justifiably felt for awhile that this game was in the bag.
*sigh*

I acted scummy as hell, imho. Then for my troubles I end up being killed as a suspected cop. :roll:
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:28 am

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Kelly Chen wrote:I feel badly for the animal mafia, who justifiably felt for awhile that this game was in the bag.
*sigh*

I acted scummy as hell, imho. Then for my troubles I end up being killed as a suspected cop. :roll:

Also, I mentioned breifly to LML (I think) that I thought it likely there would be a second mafia of equal size, cause it was a KellyChen game. With the vanillas dying and the cult, it seemed silly to think that, though.
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