Mafiascum.net

↑ mykonian wrote:

↑ xRECKONERx wrote:

↑ mykonian wrote:Not that much. This is a good moment to find out.

Then why do you think 8 posts for me is more egregious than >8 posts for the three I mentioned?

they aren't here to ask them about it.

So you checked my online status before voting me to make sure I'd be around to respond to it?

prod dodge will post soon

↑ farside22 wrote:My vote on ki is simple. He isn't scum hunting. His post are stabs at people on things they say and keeps himself out of conversations completely.
Aka: playing the sideline scum game.

Your "conversations" with AK is nothing but running in circles and never concluding anything decent, so really I care enough about the town getting involved with them. My stabs at people actually reveal shit that help me with my reads. You just confuse people with questions that couldn't possibly reveal alignment and then continue to bother them when they call you out for it. I would OMGUS you but I just think you're weak town. If your scum and just want me to think that, then good job.

@reck, I saw you have the last post somewhere on the main screen. After that it's hoping you'd check this next.

Regardless, you were going to respond whatever time it took because you're such an active player!

↑ Ki-Gi wrote:

↑ farside22 wrote:My vote on ki is simple. He isn't scum hunting. His post are stabs at people on things they say and keeps himself out of conversations completely.
Aka: playing the sideline scum game.

Your "conversations" with AK is nothing but running in circles and never concluding anything decent, so really I care enough about the town

to avoid

getting involved with them. You just confuse people with questions that couldn't possibly reveal alignment and then continue to bother them when they call you out for it. I would OMGUS you but I just think you're weak town. If your scum and just want me to think that, then good job.

Bullshit. You actually haven't got any reads.

So far you've got nothing on MattP, been upset about my case on you even put a shitty omgus down, called for a policy lynch and now pretend you are a hedgehog when farside votes you.

Coolest thing is that you don't even defend against her points but decide to go straight on the offensive on a pile of bullshit. Last two sentences are gems but then people scoff at language tells this game.

↑ Ki-Gi wrote:

↑ farside22 wrote:My vote on ki is simple. He isn't scum hunting. His post are stabs at people on things they say and keeps himself out of conversations completely.
Aka: playing the sideline scum game.

Your "conversations" with AK is nothing but running in circles and never concluding anything decent, so really I care enough about the town

to avoid

getting involved with them. My stabs at people actually reveal shit that help me with my reads. You just confuse people with questions that couldn't possibly reveal alignment and then continue to bother them when they call you out for it. I would OMGUS you but I just think you're weak town. If your scum and just want me to think that, then good job.

You never said anything about my questions before this.
Why did you not voice that before I voted you?
You also said nothing about the argument between me and Anatole other then to come in and agree that anatole's question was misleading so....?

↑ mykonian wrote:people scoff at language tells this game.

Some people do, but I've tried (albeit without success) to employ Mark McClish's methodology to Mafia. I blame the failure on my implementation, not the science itself.

Talk to me about language tells. I want to hear this.

yo

I don't have any background in it. So uhm, don't expect any professional analysis here.

But these sentences are fun.

↑ Ki-Gi wrote:I would OMGUS you but I just think you're weak town. If your scum and just want me to think that, then good job.

Keep in mind this is in a post that is a response to farsides vote and supporting arguments. So this is in context of a post that doesn't address said arguments but takes the offensive.

The first sentence here is cute in that it shows his problem. He didn't have a way to address farsides arguments and he's showing it here. He does two things, first the statement that "I would vote you for (those blatant lies)", but then "you are weak town". Which is straight up playing it at the man. But then, the second thing he does in one go is that he generously spares her because he's above "omgussing weak townies".

This sentence says in multiple ways "I can't believe how wrong you are", but manages to not address her points at any time, while attempting to maneuver himself to a superior moral position.


The second adds to the earlier clemency by voicing a threat: "back off or I will vote you for that". He's setting up an omgus vote because he doesn't think it's the proper reaction here to do it.

These sentences aren't intended to handle his problem, they are supposed to "handle" farside



It becomes a lot funnier having been around a little. Farside is kind of MS's mom. It makes it really stand out.

↑ T S O wrote:yo

yo

I'm not seeing the threat there; quite the opposite in fact. "But" is a key word in discerning intent. Any time you see "but," ignore everything before it and pay attention to the part after it. i.e., when someone says to their spouse, "I love you but you drive me crazy sometimes," they're expressing irritation, not affection.

If someone says something like "You are doing (insert long list of scummy behaviour) but (insert one towntell)" and then votes that person, that's a red flag to me. Ki's not voting farside.

The threat was the second sentence. "If your scum and just want me to think that, then good job."

In isolation that looks a bit steep, I guess, but given the previous sentence, this is as close to the promise of a vote we are going to get?

I'm reading that like "Well, you could be scum, but if you are you've sure got me fooled," which is pretty non-threatening.

I don't think this is my English failing.

But there's an easy solution to that. Could always ask ki-gi what he meant there.

@kigi, would you mind telling us?

myko, I responded, so now what? What does my response tell you? Why did you want me to respond? Why are you still voting me, since I have more than 8 posts

why are you so bothered by a vote?

Because you've yet to give a clear reason why you voted, and you keep dancing around it, giving indirect, circular answers.

VOTE: mykonian

↑ xRECKONERx wrote:Because you've yet to give a clear reason why you voted, and you keep dancing around it, giving indirect, circular answers.

it's only not clear to you.

it is not clear to me either

↑ MattP wrote:

↑ mykonian wrote:Yes. But seen the responses I suspect this isn't really a productive way of using my vote, which is a pity. I'm waiting for a next place to put it down, so I don't really have interesting reads at the moment. Game is a bit meh apart from the flubbernugget wagon, but that'll take time to give something to talk about.

Its this sort of lackluster posting and lack of committed leads that makes me feel like you're struggling very hard to find a natural angle to scumhunt in this game

You don't see 255 as a good scumhunt?

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:it is not clear to me either

What did you think of ki's reaction to my vote?

↑ Belisarius wrote:

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:Beli, what do you mean?

Ongoing game meta, so I can't talk about it right now.

I

can

, however, have my vote on scum for VCA purposes even if I can't yet convince anyone else to lynch.

You're next, by the way.

Just read this again. Woah. So you absolutely you have your vote on scum? That's the implication I see. But that's a shitty implication. I need enlightenment.

Why are you so confident in your read so early?

↑ farside22 wrote:Who the heck is Reno?

I meant Reck. But that's an ugly vote. Like it has a mole right under its lip with one long ass hair hanging off of it. How come nobody ever plucks off that one damn hair??

Here's a better vote.

VOTE: Belisarius

I give it a 6 out of 10.

↑ Flubbernugget wrote:Why are you so confident in your read so early?

Why do you think I'm so confident?

How confident do you think I am?

What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?

↑ farside22 wrote:

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:it is not clear to me either

What did you think of ki's reaction to my vote?

His response isn't alignment indicative and makes decent points.

If you're trying to vote someone for not scumhunting, why wouldn't you hold Belisarius, TSO, Myko, etc. to the same standard? He's doing more than they are to actually have some presence in the town.