Makes you look like your trying to recover his bad play IMO.
I'd only answer it if asked to distance yourself.
Don't speak of him by yourself, form your own new reads and stuff. Act like psyche never exsisted unless asked to explain something.
That's what I'd do.
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:01 pm
by wgeurts
You've been asked by CES, relay my oppinions and that I thought theel was scum.
Say that Espe/T-Bone haven't said anything on it. Don't lie, stick to the truth as much as possible.
You're doing well though.
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:45 am
by Aneninen
↑wgeurts wrote:Makes you look like your trying to recover his bad play IMO.
I'd only answer it if asked to distance yourself.
Don't speak of him by yourself, form your own new reads and stuff. Act like psyche never exsisted unless asked to explain something.
That's what I'd do.
That's the plan.
Also, I hope in the evening I'll be able to go on with catching-up. I think I'll post something like "After Psyche had asked, Wgeurts looked into the game for a couple of pages. He said although he hadn't known them personally, Regfan, Llamarable and CES had looked town, thus Aero might be scum. (Although I haven't found the corresponding part in the game.) No opinion was posted from the others."
Opinions?
(The sentence in brackets is useful only if I have to stop in the catch-up before reaching that part.)
Or,
I can be more vague, like "one of the mates said that the Day1 wagon had seemed to be town-driven". – This may be more legit if I post it before reaching the related pages in the thread.
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:52 am
by wgeurts
Also tell them they can ask me questions, makes it more convincing. I'll then put on an act for you to relay if needed
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:36 am
by T-Bone
I wouldn't lie too much about our contributions to your game, because I don't think the rest of us are making the claims that we are following each other closely.
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:49 am
by Aneninen
I'll post the minimal version then and only because I was asked.
I'll mention Wgeurts too. After all, now he has time for checking things.
Do you agree?
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:58 am
by T-Bone
That's fine, don't go lying about things that's all. Because I haven't mentioned anything about my team helping me and I don't think Espoenage has either
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 10:03 am
by Aneninen
Glad to hear those facts. Really!
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:02 pm
by Aneninen
Now Cogito asks this, after I posted what we agreed.
Did Espeonage or T-bone comment on that at all?
I think I'll answer a simple No. If anyone asks why Psyche used plural, I'll answer something like "maybe he didn't want to name the team mate who commented, I don't know".
Also,
so far I haven't been asked about tokens. As far as I can see, Psyche claimed nothing about it.
However, if I get asked, should I say
(1) 2 for town or
(2) nothing?
(1) is closer to the truth, after all Psyche indeed used two tokens. However, it may be FoS because he didn't mentioned it.
(2) is no info but a lie after all – in this case, we should keep in mind that we'll have two "missing tokens" in general, so we need to decide "where they went".
Also, Wgeurts: are you still alive? I've just checked the first page of your game and it says so. If so, hurray!
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:16 pm
by Espeonage
I've actually talked about how I haven't really been chatting with any of you about my game.
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:22 pm
by wgeurts
First read Psyche's ISO to see if he said
anything
about them. He's trying to trap you
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:23 pm
by wgeurts
Yeah, I survived. But it's now me vs GreyICE.
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:26 pm
by wgeurts
↑Espeonage wrote:Actually just say 2 on T-bone, 1 on me, 1 on wgeurts.
That way we can tell the exact truth on what we did for our games with tokens.
Justification was that we felt it would be better for us all to be town so we can scumhunt cross games and not have to tutor and help the scum people on the team but psyche was most inclined to be scum and T-Bone didn't want scum.
I think that is good for all of us in our games.
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:27 pm
by Aneninen
↑Espeonage wrote:ally just say 2 on T-bone, 1 on me, 1 on wgeurts.
I've just found this. Is this our story?
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:29 pm
by wgeurts
Yes.
Only say it if asked once again, people see it as scummy to do it without being asked for some odd reason.
It's safe to say only I'm reading your game, psyche hasn't said anything else on it.
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:30 pm
by wgeurts
I'll continue reading once home
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 11:42 pm
by Aneninen
↑wgeurts wrote:First read Psyche's ISO to see if he said
anything
about them. He's trying to trap you
I know and he shall not.
I'll tell soon that I've just finished reading our thread.
If I get asked, I can tell the truth:
(1) mostly game mechanics speculation
(2) Wgeurts is posting a lot about his game
(3) there are some posts I don't know which one of the games they belong to. (Eg T-Bone's 191!!!)
Also,
who do you think are threats in my game? Whom should I avoid to fight with?
In my opinion the worst opponent for me is the re-team. TTH, Antihero, Sthar8, ETL... All of them know me well, f-ck that.
T-Bone! If you still have problems with TierShift, I think I can sort him for you as soon as I have time.
Later maybe I'll write a couple of things about the players I know.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 12:09 am
by Aneninen
I promised a couple of posts ago that I'd post a viable story about why I am here.
Remember:
it is for a last resort use
(getting almost lynched or being at LyLo) and I'm way not sure whether it would work at all!
Spoiler:
So, it's not known who invited me at all. Noone knows that Wgeurts read that JK9++ he'd been talking about.
On the other hand, I met Espeonage in a recent game, Lucky's Pick your Gif and actually that was the very first LyLo I won as town.
Esp might say that he never thought that a silly Kaboose-Aneninen pair would ever catch him and got surprised.
After failing to get a couple of players in the team (which is true, eventually) he suggested me. He took a look at my Wiki and realized that whenever I reached LyLo I guessed right, even if the town didn't listen to me. (Actually this is true as well...)
So, I'm a kind of secret weapon with an instruction like "try not to get lynched or nightkilled, get into LyLo and solve the game." After all, I'm clearly less experienced than most of the players in the whole Team Mafia, so it's unlikely that the scums, whoever they are, or their team mates would consider me as a big threat...
Yes, it sounds silly as I read it back but is still worth thinking about. And let's hope that we needn't use this story for a long time – or at all.
(By the way, it's true in the other way around too. If I happen to be lynched (but let it not be so!), I can still check any game which is at LyLo...)
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:45 am
by Aneninen
There might be a minor problem but I think I can solve it.
Spoiler:
Psyche, 652:
My teammates say I should vote for Aero again just because of the people on his wagon.
Psyche, 667:
should I do it, should I do it, should I do it
(46 minutes later than the previous one)
(Ika hammered in the next post.)
Regfan, 677:
Psyche - What are your teams thoughts on this game at the moment and why did they think you should have jumped on due to the wagon-make-up?
Psyche, 679:
my team is rather useless at the moment – they thought it was safe to vote aero because the others voting him seemed legit
Regfan, 680:
The bolded here
(from because...)
is what I want an explanation on; does that mean they had a town read on majority of the wagon or purely thought they were competent player? If it's the earlier would like to hear the exact reads and stances they've given you. Wouldn't mind your own thoughts too.
Psyche, 681:
I don't think they put much thought into it. So probably the latter. I really wonder how other people's teammates manage to keep up with so many games simultaneously!
The problem might be the "probably the latter" part. Psyche said that "because of competent players" and I mentioned "Regfan/Llamar/CES look town". However, if anyone points this out I think I have an answer. (I wouldn't post this answer before someone talks about it.)
Something like: "Wgeurts said that those players on the wagon looked ok. So I thought he meant looked town, not looked competent. But if it's still important I can ask Wgeurts about it whether he remembers that."
For me, an answer like this would sound as if I hadn't even realized that the question could have been a trap...
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:48 am
by Espeonage
You already have a better handle than I do.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:49 am
by Espeonage
Any of you able to read CBD?
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:50 am
by wgeurts
Nope, but I'm willing to look.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:59 pm
by wgeurts
I'm dead. Time to read all your games.
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:28 pm
by wgeurts
Whoever contacted wisdom, you didn't tell them which slot they were replacing did you?
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2015 6:35 pm
by wgeurts
As in did you tell wisdom he's replacing a scum slot?
If you did, kill ank tonight. He then may know anen's scum.
