↑Lucky2u wrote:You seem to be assuming I was accusing you of being scum. I'm assuming you're being lazy.
I'm accusing you of ingenuine scumhunting. What did you expect to gain from calling me lazy?
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 4:23 am
by Flubbernugget
↑hi im Yakko wrote:I love flubbers response dude "reading is fundamental" holy shit dude. He doesn't realize we can read and are noticing that he has nothing. Lmao
Flubber you scum brah?
Considering I just said I, had no opinions on the thread to turn around and be asked if I have any opinions on the thread uhhh Yeah.
Also yes I am scum
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 5:30 am
by dramonic
↑Davsto wrote:So there is a possibility of him being scum. Dammit.
, we have this game well in the bag- 5 votes between
diego and hermmm
. If we go to night, and all
protective roles
choose randomly between both of them, then i dont think that scum can win outside of a mislynch on diego, which could be incredibly hard to pull off.
Look at all those awful, awful conditions.
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 9:33 am
by Klazam
Explain, dram.
Red is a reasonable if-statement, and i've said i think its true, orange isnt a condition at all, and pink is me saying that so that scum now have to decide risk losing out on a nightkill or go elsewhere for the safe kill. It doesnt ha e to be true- no protective roles in the game is very possible, but it still should influence scum, to the point where theyre likely to shoot elsewhere, if the majority of the town thinks that protective roles should target diego/hermm. Which is a very positive thing because it leaves 5 votes in the hands of town.
↑hi im Yakko wrote:I love flubbers response dude "reading is fundamental" holy shit dude. He doesn't realize we can read and are noticing that he has nothing. Lmao
Flubber you scum brah?
Considering I just said I, had no opinions on the thread to turn around and be asked if I have any opinions on the thread uhhh Yeah.
Also yes I am scum
VOTE: flubber cool
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:01 am
by BNL
Still like my Yakko vote. Too much wagon hopping, and not useful to town at all.
Not lynching Diego today, because he is a forced kill from scum if actually town (and if he is scum he'll be killed from another scum faction anyway).
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:11 pm
by SirCakez
↑Skybird wrote:Not sure which way to go on Diego. It would be great to have a town quad voter but if he's scum, ugh.
I didn't like his post where he stated he was going to build a town block, like he was encouraging us to believe him to be town.
VOTE: Diego
If you're not sure which way to go, then why did you place a vote in the same post?
dramonic wrote:
↑Davsto wrote:So there is a possibility of him being scum. Dammit.
It's a pretty big if. He plays like scum, he smells like scum, his role is scummy, but hey, IF HE IS TOWN YA KNOW!
orange isnt a condition at all
If you want diego and Herm to control the gamestate, which is also a pretty big if.
pink is me saying that so that scum now have to decide risk losing out on a nightkill or go elsewhere for the safe kill.
IF we have a valid protective role, IF that protector is even interested in Diego/Herm. IF this weren't GIM
It still should influence scum, to the point where theyre likely to shoot elsewhere
If scum is even worried about diego.
if the majority of the town thinks that protective roles should target diego/hermm.
If the majority of the town is a credible source
Which is a very positive thing because it leaves 5 votes in the hands of town.
If the votes are used intelligently.
You could have infinite votes, if they're constantly on the wrong people it's just mislynching for scum without them getting their hands dirty.
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 7:33 pm
by HERRMMMMM
Dram is right. I think I would eventually policy lynch a innocent child, master-scumhunter quad voter eventually. That role as any alignment can majorly help scum. One wrong read and whole game is lost.
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:26 pm
by Klazam
Huh.
I see now.
But is this a valid d1 lynch? Because it kind of generates no information, due to-according to you- both scum and town has reason to lynch him, meaning that the day ends up a bit of a waste?
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 12:11 am
by Klazam
wait no
it doesnt make sense
thinking about it in the shower- scum has the most to gain from pushing through a mislynch on a town quadvoter.
VOTE: dram
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:15 am
by Skybird
I have to disagree with you there. I'm not seeing Dram as scum right now.
Vedith is town.
Nice to have an ika/hiplop hydra be conftown. Those can usually be easy mislynches for scum to pull off, and they can be pretty decent readswise.
diego conftown, neat. Love that dramonic and Yakko keep their votes on him, too. Especially dramonic keeping it on even further.
Klazam and SirCakez are both my main two scumreads, but SirCakez is worse due to his irritating series of vote-unvote-vote-unvote-vote. Looks like he keeps struggling between the two easier wagons.
↑SirCakez wrote:RVS is not in town interest? Then why has this site been doing it every game for years?
RVS is only there to start people talking.
It means nothing in game as it's so easy to make a standard RVS even as scum.
I know that, but it's in town's best interests to start talking, no?
I don't like the Diego wagon. It formed far too quickly for something relatively benign imo.
The Klazam wagon is one I agree on. VOTE: Klazam
His only two posts have been jumping on wagons as they form with little/bad reasoning for his votes.
↑SirCakez wrote:UNVOTE:
Still would like a response to my question Vedith although it's less relevant now
↑SirCakez wrote:UNVOTE: Vedith
Hate how he's acting but is probably town all things considered
↑SirCakez wrote:VOTE: Klazam
Rejoining this wagon since I only left it to vote Vedith
I'd vote Flubber for doing literally nothing but like the Klazam wagon better
Said votes.
VOTE: SirCakez
It's always nice to see a town Davsto. You may have something on sircakez here, but how do you feel about the fact that one of your scum reads is scum reading the other (klazam)? Are you operating under the assumption that they are opposed scum to each other if both your reads are right?
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:08 am
by Lucky2u
↑SirCakez wrote:The Vedith wagon doesn't exist anymore. If I wanted to vote on an "easy" wagon, then why didn't I vote for Diego or Lucky?
And I already gave an explanation for the Vedith wagon hop on and hop off in 204 and 217
Was I considered an easy wagon at any point in this game?
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:15 am
by Lucky2u
↑HERRMMMMM wrote:ika's flub vote was shit. the guy is just naturally scummy, I'm not sure why but he is the scummiest player on this site no matter what.
VOTE: diego
this is where we should go, I think. Quad voter is dangerous as fuck, and he comes off as scummy.
I'm going to use this quote from the IC to discuss my feelings on the Diego situation lately. My initial thought was only scum would push the Diego wagon, since essentially the wagon exists because his ROLE is powerful, NOT that he has done anything scummy, just that his ROLE his powerful. Since our IC seems to also be afraid of it, I guess I can't use it as alignment indictive to read those on the Diego wagon. I have moved my read on Diego over to leaning town for the moment. I think scum would have handled this power differently day 1. I will also ask that we don't lynch Diego based on fear of his power.
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:18 am
by Lucky2u
↑Klazam wrote:Lucky- your "look, everyone's busy, lets get someone lynched and go to night before christmas"-(i dont care who youre talking about here, the fact that you wanted it to be me is immaterial) i think this is a horribly lazy push, trying to find a easy wagon to push through, espically since a lot of players has expressed suspicion of me. That post reeks of lazy scum looking for easy way to get night, to me.
It's easy because your scum. The part in parenthesis clarifying that you'd feel this way regardless if it was you or not is a scum thing to say, as you are essentially saying "this totally isn't a omgus read guys, I really feel this way". should have left it out.