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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:22 am
by Music and Mail
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:27 am
by Kappy
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:03 pm
by Music and Mail
Alpaca, can I get some reads from you? You haven't really given any so far and it's hard to explain but I just kinda feel like you're holding back a bit.
-- Mail
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 12:55 pm
by AlpacaAlpaca
You're just too magic, I am in exams which finish friday so until than I am posting sparingly but this is what I have so far
At this point I am super wary of Ranger. I have never played with her but I have heard that her reads are ususally good so I don't know whether she is scum trying to drive a mislynch or genuienly town who made a mistake. Than there is post
217 which could just be her covering for herself for when IV flipped town.
From what I've seen most of the case on you is meta, which I am not a super fan of since my playstyle changes depending on how I'm feeling at the time. I never got the impression that you were scum however I think that you have spent a ton of time focusing on Ranger and defending yourself, though Ranger was pretty obstinate about it so that might just be it.
I am town leaning Alex and am leaning null on everyone else so far.
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 1:20 pm
by Music and Mail
If you're busy with exams then fair enough.
Can you go into any detail on your Alexcellent townread?
-- Mail
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:16 pm
by Ranger
innocentvillager wrote:Ranger what do you think of BTD's responses after I scumclaimed?
A top priority in a reread. I couldn't get much out of them the first time, but I recognize the need to.
BTD6 wrote:Ranger, when you promised to get lynched was that some sort of gambit?
No, when I make a promise, I uphold it. In this game, I wouldn't mind getting lynched, because I wouldn't really be out of the game. I explicitly made the offer. It still stands.
Kappy wrote:Thinking about this, why didn't you say so before we stumped IV?
Because I was trying to lynch innocentvillager. I thought innocentvillager was scum. This opinion started very strong. innocentvillager's later posting made me doubt my read, but not enough where I was willing to vocalize that doubt. When BTD6 dropped his surprise hammer, I was still unsure. In fact, until innocentvillager said, "partner, douse who we said in post 3", I thought that innocentvillager might be town trolling for reactions. But when he said that, along with what sounded like absolute sincerity in saying we had lynched scum, I put my doubts to rest, and decided to disclose that, actually, yes, I did doubt the read but oh well we lynched scum anyway.
Or so I thought.
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:24 pm
by AlpacaAlpaca
In post 279, Music and Mail wrote:If you're busy with exams then fair enough.
Can you go into any detail on your Alexcellent townread?
-- Mail
He has been asking questions and trying to scumhunt and hasn't done anything that I would see as scummy. He throws down his reads and clears up any issues he has with questions. Although he was on the IV wagon he put in his reasons out in post
124 and post
146 and I think that they were valid, With this I am willing give him my only town lean I am still null on the other people
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:26 pm
by Ranger
Rereading the interactions: shotty definitely comes out looking town.
BTD6 I think is town, but I'm not absolutely sure.
I get some mixed signals from Kappy, but overall, I actually think he may have believed it as well. Of the three, this is the weakest, so a preliminary readslist would be something like:
{shotty}
{BTD6, Alexcellent, Alpaca}
{Kappy}
{Sickofit}
{Music & Mail}
Sick's not a scumread except by weak-POE; he'd otherwise be at null. Still think this is Music & Mail as scum though.
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:26 pm
by Kappy
Me? Null? I'm insulted!
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:27 pm
by drmyshottyizsik
Ok so Ranger never town reads me like this....
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:36 pm
by Quaroath
As a note, I'll start looking for an Alexcellent replacement if he hasn't posted when I check in tomorrow.
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:58 pm
by innocentvillager
Tbh I'm not sure I TR Ranger that much anymore. Rereading her post 217 made me reevaluate the possibility that this was a scum gambit. If she's willing to take a gambit like that as town, I guess she could maybe take a gambit more intense as scum. Still a light town read I guess, especially since she actually upheld that she would be willing to get lynched today, but of course that could just be wifom. Plus, I still can't see any scum motivation for this gambit, since she would know that it would just look scummy and every
I still see zero reason to TR Alpaca or Alexcellent, I think these two need to get some serious examination the day.
BTD I scum claimed to get reactions more for townreads than for scum reads. It worked, didn't it? Lots of people reacted accordingly. I got you as town and Shotty as town from those posts. Did anyone not buy my claim? (Besides scum
)
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:08 pm
by Music and Mail
In post 280, Ranger wrote:BTD6 wrote:Ranger, when you promised to get lynched was that some sort of gambit?
No, when I make a promise, I uphold it. In this game, I wouldn't mind getting lynched, because I wouldn't really be out of the game. I explicitly made the offer. It still stands.
Put your money where your mouth is then. Self-vote.
-- Mail
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:29 pm
by Ranger
Music and Mail wrote:Put your money where your mouth is then. Self-vote.
What, for the town cred?
Sorry, no.
I'll self-vote. It'll happen today, especially since I have literally no defenders; every single player is suspicious of me and that means I make a good lynch.
It does not need to happen instantly.
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 1:30 am
by Kappy
In post 288, Ranger wrote:Music and Mail wrote:Put your money where your mouth is then. Self-vote.
What, for the town cred?
Sorry, no.
I'll self-vote. It'll happen today, especially since I have literally no defenders; every single player is suspicious of me and that means I make a good lynch.
It does not need to happen instantly.
True. Even if we do end up lynching Ranger for pushing that IV lynch, we don't need to do it immediately. We have 2 weeks, peoples. We can drag it out to get as much information about the other scum as possible.
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:49 am
by Music and Mail
Yeah, this is one of those things where if she had actually self-voted I wouldn't have stopped deathtunneling her for the rest of the day.
-- Mail
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:51 am
by Music and Mail
People need to do more things so I can expand my townpool. I have a strong townread on Kappy right now and that's it.
-- Mail
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:02 am
by BTD6_maker
I primarily want a Music and Mail lynch but I am fine with lynching Ranger. With this setup a lynch on scum Ranger is no doubt good but a lynch on town Ranger is not too bad. Ranger will most probably survive the rest of the game (unless she was primed N1) and can input her reads.
Besides, she promised.
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:06 am
by Music and Mail
I'm kinda scumreading Ranger and BTD but I don't think they're likely to be scum together ugh.
-- Mail
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:11 am
by Kappy
I'm scumreading Ranger. That post about not being 100% sure seemed like it was a cover-up for when IV flipped town.
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:31 am
by BTD6_maker
In post 293, Music and Mail wrote:I'm kinda scumreading Ranger and BTD but I don't think they're likely to be scum together ugh.
-- Mail
Can you please explain your read on me?
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 12:02 pm
by Quaroath
Vote count 2.1
Ranger - Music and Mail
Music and Mail - drmyshottyizsik, BTD6_maker
Not Voting - (5) Alexcellent, AlpacaAlpaca, Kappy, Music and Mail, Ranger, Sickofit1138
With 8 eligible to vote, is takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is in 6/25 @ 10pm PST[
Searching for an Alexcellent replacement
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:19 pm
by Ranger
For the record, this is symbolic.
VOTE: Music and Mail.
I also wasn't fond of Kappy's
289.
But if another vote is places on M&M, I'm unvoting.
I want the vote there as a method of official record, in the VC history.
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:56 pm
by Music and Mail
If we get lynched here I'm not posting anything besides votes on Ranger for the duration of the game.
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:21 pm
by BTD6_maker
Just so you know, if I only read Mail's posts, my read would probably be weak scum (weaker than Ranger). It's mostly Music that makes me strongly scumread this slot. The above post is a case in point. Firstly, you are forbidden from voting and secondly, not giving real content will not help, especially after you are confirmed Town.