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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:01 pm
by borkjerfkin
S_S had 3 posts when Dunn made

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:03 pm
by borkjerfkin
but maybe that clears some stuff up

UNVOTE:

I'll think about it.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:04 pm
by borkjerfkin
I believe that AJ legitimately missed S_S' posts up until then.

Not sure that makes him town, but we were definitely talking past each other.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:04 pm
by Aj The Epic
So yeah none of that really makes a difference to me at least since 6/7 are just fluff/RVS and the 100 post thing is a prod dodge. Unless Dunn's going to claim there was something scummy there, there's really nothing more to it.

Like I guess that brings in disinterest (I was initially under the belief that he, like me, just didn't see the game thread open) but I'm not seeing anything there worth scumreading.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:04 pm
by borkjerfkin
No, but it makes the discussion about whether or not it's a policy lynch something besides semantics, no?

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:06 pm
by Aj The Epic
Do we have to? Like now it brings up 'is lynching lurkers a policy lynch' if we're pursuing that but it's so far off the original point it's just not worth it.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:08 pm
by borkjerfkin
I don't care to have a "what is a policy lynch" discussion, no.

I'm explaining what was going through my head when I condemned your dismissing of Dunn wanting to lynch S_S as not worth talking about at the time.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:09 pm
by borkjerfkin
Like it makes a lot more sense if you thought he'd literally posted nothing instead of just posted things that were worthless in your opinion. The latter is worth talking about with Dunn or S_S, the former is not.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:14 pm
by borkjerfkin
In post 181, Aj The Epic wrote:On the bright side, Dunn is town. This is like the first time I actually believe it too, but his actions around it show actual suspicion, something I don't see in scum games of his.
Since you did bring up why you think Dunn is "being stupid instead of scummy": talk to me about your town read here because I feel like you decided really definitively on this early with only the vaguest of explanations.

And since you brought up meta I need to see the counterexamples you used to get to this.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:17 pm
by Foxbird
Votecount 1.8


Aj The Epic
(2) - Seiko x Naomi, The Oxford Bubbles
Syryana
(1) - Shadow_step

Not Voting
(6) - Dunnstral, Obvious Alt, Aj The Epic, Charloux, Syryana, borkjerfkin

With
9
players eligible to vote, it’s
5
to lynch!

Day 1 will end in
(expired on 2017-01-26 06:01:00).

Mod Notes:

Charloux is V/LA until the 19th of January.

Will search for a replacement for Obvious Alt in the morning (my time).

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:27 pm
by Aj The Epic
In post 283, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 181, Aj The Epic wrote:On the bright side, Dunn is town. This is like the first time I actually believe it too, but his actions around it show actual suspicion, something I don't see in scum games of his.
Since you did bring up why you think Dunn is "being stupid instead of scummy": talk to me about your town read here because I feel like you decided really definitively on this early with only the vaguest of explanations.

And since you brought up meta I need to see the counterexamples you used to get to this.
So the main counterexample I have is Nhadia's Trial of the Evoker http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=69209 Dunn's ISO is a literal metric fluffton :) of posts that don't really have a suspicion behind it early on.

To note scum team in this game is Dunn/Pisskop/BATORU.

It's just a serious difference to see Dunn A.) More reserved and B.) much more questioning/prodding.

Spoiler:
In post 34, Dunnstral wrote:I don't think I've ever seen "us" be used as "Us, the mafia" before

Beyond that, It's pretty scummy to make a big deal out of it. I know from experience this kind of accusation tends to be bought by that one guy who then tunnels on it for the whole game so this goes well beyond rvs
In post 36, Dunnstral wrote:I think seiko is scummy there too. That's not rvs, that's early shade on something that wasn't scummy. A false slip

Syryana's hop on doesn't inspire confidence, either
In post 46, Dunnstral wrote:Feel free to start an early wagon that isn't based off a disgusting misrep. You should be wagoning one of sekio and Syryana. Why aren't you? What harm does having an early wagon do? Why does it have to be on Charloux, in your opinion?
In post 97, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 89, Syryana wrote:What in the actual FUCK people?

STOP FUCKING CLAIMING.
You don't seem fazed at all by my claim. Shouldn't it change the basis of your case on me?


Like honestly if I had played with Dunn before Trials I think it would've been so painfully obvious. Bygones though, I wouldn't have caught pisskop ever.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:50 pm
by borkjerfkin
In post 268, Aj The Epic wrote:Jesus. You'd think I've played this game enough to not buddy a partner in such a stupid way.
This might be a perspective slip. Town really has no reason to say this, I would just be wrong because he is town

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:33 pm
by Dunnstral
Aj that meta you brought up - did you look at that to figure I was town early in this game? I think that's what you're saying

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:45 pm
by Syryana
VOTE: Aj The Epic

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:00 pm
by Aj The Epic
In post 287, Dunnstral wrote:Aj that meta you brought up - did you look at that to figure I was town early in this game? I think that's what you're saying
Did I use your posting Trials to help with my read here? Yes.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:57 pm
by Foxbird
Obvious Alt has failed to respond to their prod in a timely fashion, and will be replaced.

Searching for a replacement now.

EDIT: Player has returned and may resume posting.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:14 pm
by Seiko x Naomi
I'll be back tomorrow.

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:06 am
by borkjerfkin
In post 290, Foxbird wrote:EDIT: Player has returned and may resume posting.
Youve gotta be kidding me

2 posts in goddamn however long even though theyve gone over double prod length without posting and they get to stay

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:23 am
by borkjerfkin
In post 286, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 268, Aj The Epic wrote:Jesus. You'd think I've played this game enough to not buddy a partner in such a stupid way.
This might be a perspective slip. Town really has no reason to say this, I would just be wrong because he is town
i thought about this overnight and dont feel as strongly about it

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:23 am
by Dunnstral
Did obvious alt pm the mod in order to avoid posting in thread?

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:23 am
by Dunnstral
Wait

he posted in scum pt lolololol

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:25 am
by Dunnstral
really though I think it's worth lynching obvious alt from that

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:37 am
by borkjerfkin
In post 295, Dunnstral wrote:Wait

he posted in scum pt lolololol
Replied to prod pm? That is what i would have done

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:38 am
by borkjerfkin
Actually id have just fucking posted in the thread

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:40 am
by borkjerfkin
If the mod is counting "posting in any thread" as activity then you have a point

Dont know how to verify