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In post 274, humaneatingmonkey wrote:oh. then are you scum now? because i should be scumreading you, right?

no for some reason my lifespan in games, even when i'm well townread and mostly correct about my reads, is absurdly long

i've only been killed in the late game by groupscum and usually because i'm conftown

are you an alt?

yeah - mentioned it here already and also says so on my wiki

it's not that difficult to figure out who i am because i've made zero effort to hide it (a lot of people have told me they know so i stopped trying) but i still dont want to disclose it

if you know you know and it's fine to meta me, otherwise i'm not going to say anything else

have we played before? this is important.

no, but i've modded a game with you in it and i loosely follow like every single game on this site whenever i'm active

did I replace out?

if you're asking that question i think you know the answer lmao

that's a yes

Early game part isn’t relevant since my thoughts changed considerably after 6 pages. They went from ‘how should we do RVS today then’ to proper reads.

35- You said you thought UCV could be voting seriously. This didn’t make much difference to me since I wanted a RVS wagon, not a lynch. This sounded like you were interested in his alignment.
146- I’m saying it doesn’t matter if UCV was voting seriously since his thoughts/alignment were irrelevant, though I thought he was serious.
156/61 onwards- You continue talking about UCV. That’s what made me think a bit later that you thought I was scumreading him. This is also where you seemed to be interested in what I thought his alignment was.

Alternatively,
You- UCV might have been serious.
Me- I do not think he was serious. Why do you think he was serious?
You then make it sound like I think UC is scum, and vote me.
Me- Maybe he’s voting me because he thinks I think UC is scum.
You- What do you mean? I don’t follow?
Me- I don’t follow. It sounds like that’s relevant.

@Kat: Bit I’m concerned about with Sheepy is that he said he saw both sides of it but didn’t really solve the issue by pointing out I’d misread monkey’s UC read, or trying to get us to understand each other. Though given 235, that could easily be from town too. I also like a lot of other stuff from Sheep.

you like it because he's townreading you but realize how little townreading you makes sense right now after your whole ISO, if you're town

OK - yes, in 35 I'm interested in his alignment but not in the sense of what you thought of his alignment - I'm interested in what his intentions with the vote are which would help see his alignment. I don't mention UCV's alignment, only that I think it's believable he made a serious vote when we might have been dismissing it as a nonserious vote because most people would think it is.

I don't see what the relevance of whether or not we're lynching or wagonning him has on this since the only point of discussion was nor do I understand why you're sticking to this detail. The only thing that was brought into question by me in 30 - 35 were UCV's intentions in voting Intern - who was wagonning or lynching is a non-sequitur.

146 doesn't make sense as a response because UCV's vote being serious doesn't rely on people's agreement with UCV's theory, nor does whether or not you're wagonning/lynching UCV matter.

with 156 on, I'm trying to understand why you would think it's unbelievable for the vote to be serious because your response implies that everyone is approaching the game the same way when that's not the case. I was trying to respond to you in good faith because I still had that feeling of being on a different plane and wanted to see if anyone else would notice if I didn't call it out while I still scumread Flubber.

Hopkirk wrote:@Kat: Bit I’m concerned about with Sheepy is that he said he saw both sides of it but didn’t really solve the issue by pointing out I’d misread monkey’s UC read, or trying to get us to understand each other. Though given 235, that could easily be from town too. I also like a lot of other stuff from Sheep.

your concern seems like something he'l address when he's reading closer - if i recall correctly he said he was posting while in class. from how he's responded to the thread so far (going back and forth on our conversation for example) it's also kind of clear he's not reading that closely.

i dont really know if that's enough to drop him from a townread to a nullread

like i agree his engagement from yesterday is clearly town but i'm not following how one blemish that seems kind of easy to clear up would detract from that read

In post 184, Katyusha wrote:is play isnt that good or townie but it makes sense for someone who feels clueless as either alignment. will see if context strengthens this though

Yeah I only engineered two mislynches and convinced the conftown to vote against a claimed vanilla cop in MYLO for the win. Pretty poor play.

In post 288, Sephiroth wrote:

In post 184, Katyusha wrote:is play isnt that good or townie but it makes sense for someone who feels clueless as either alignment. will see if context strengthens this though

Yeah I only engineered two mislynches and convinced the conftown to vote against a claimed vanilla cop in MYLO for the win. Pretty poor play.

no i mean here lol

your play in that game was fine

Lol I know, I'm just rereading and that caught my eye. I was very proud of my scum performance that game.

146 means that UCV's vote isn't serious (in the sense i later define) given he only commented on one vote, so didn't scumread RVS engagement in general.
As of 157, I didn't see why you still weren't sure what I meant. I defined the terms i was using.
I don't see why the conversation went past that. After that, it looked like you wanted to continue discussing it, and where thinking I was thinking something I wasn't thinking.

I strongly considered putting Sheepy in town, but want more before I do.
It's an unresolved issue right now, so I don't really want to just give it benefit of the doubt until I hear Sheepy's thoughts there.

I hate when games balloon from 5 to 12 overnight =/ Any specific questions people want answered? I'll be posting some preliminary thoughts and reads later tonight.

Who are your scumpartners?

In post 293, Not_Mafia wrote:Who are your scumpartners?

I'll show you mine if you show me yours

so you do have scumpartners
i can catch up tonight, i go to school and i have soccer practice rip

Okay mine are reinoe and your mum, yours?

Mine are my mom and you, so this is awkward.

So you're reinoe?

No, this is Patrick.