Open 710: MKUltra - Foreign Spies Win!

[GuyInFreezer]

Are you that convinced lynching NM flips green?

This amount of conviction is how I won my first towngame on this site!

[Kop]

Sorry peeps I've been busy with work. I will get to this tomorrow, it's been a. Long day.

[Hawk]

Are you that convinced lynching NM flips green?

This amount of conviction is how I won my first towngame on this site!

Was it multiball? Correlation does not equal causation. Sure playing the #'s a PL is as good as a 4/12 from every town perspective. However in this game and most others a d1 lynch is as good as random especially in a open setup.

I'll concede that I would rather see Red or Mumble lynched as my gut and intuition on comments they've made have said to me that they're more likely to flip scum than a policy lynch.

[GuyInFreezer]

No it was a singleball (a newbie game)

[Not_Mafia]

Yup Hawk is scum

[GuyInFreezer]

Hawk and RedFlavour are obvscum

Convince me

Read RF's iso

[skitter30]

Yes let's PL with two scumsided nightkills

For some reason, I thought it was max 1 kill per night, but upon reflection I have no idea where I got that from.

Going through the current wagons (based on the last vc from the last page)

-> Beef - not super feeling scum!beef right now.

-> NM - a great pl and he's playing exactly the same way as scum!nm did in open 711, but yeah this is a bad idea

-> redflavor - I think town

-> iconeum - I think town

-> GIF - not sure. I don't really have a read here but forestalling a PL in this setup is probably town-motivated?

-> Hawk - agrees with GIF that a PL is a bad idea and switched to vote RF (with GIF) but is also shading GIF by saying that he might be partners with NM

Who says the Policy Lynch hits town?? Are you that convinced lynching NM flips green? That's some scum partner talk there.

I don't think Hawk+Red is a thing.

-> TD slot - still scum but people aren't into it right now.

So for now I'll

VOTE: Hawk

@Mikan - are you like going to do anything?

[Sesq]

reading this game is as horrible as reading my own death sentence its horrible its horrible make it end

i dont know what to believe

somebody HELP HELP

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

i would deliver """content""" but its all just these minimal proses about these same players i can never tell apart

dont really even have a heart for this shit right now

flying down into the pit of my own despair

someone any someone ANYWHERE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

VOTE: hawk

Same TBH

shit, don't know if that be allowed

fuuuck.

here's the vague transcript:


Not_mafia is not_mafia

he seems unconcerned with game state, doing his own thing, pleasuring himself

Not_Mafia is Not_ playing Mafia

and i think that's something i can respect, although i can see how it's not very helpful. mafia is just a game, just a game, right? yes?

Not_mafia is not mafia.



Sky_Paladin is someone, their posts of a certain type, this someone is a cloudposter. cloudposter is a new word, it's a type of posting that takes random fragments of greater, more elaborate posts, and picks on them, inquires. nothing wrong with inquiry, but there is something wrong when the posts fail to see the bigger picture. it's a bit dishonest, even if just by exclusion. it could be worse. it lacks context. i want to go away. sky_paladin is not mafia.

it could be better. beefster. he's town. you can clearly deliniate where his thoughts are with his posts, any holes poked have been thoroughly explained. there's a great amount of focus. town. unambiguously. beefster is not mafia.

How did you conclude that not_mafia and sky is not mafia?
You said what they do but not why those things make them townie

regarding nm i think my case is clear: he's just a jestering lad and i dont see how he's scummy in any way

with regard to sky, i was largely critiquing his posts and not his scumminess. the point of being like "ITS SO BAD btw town" is to show that i dont think his play is actually scummy at all.

@ gif that acts as if scum wont kill scum. they probably will, chances are in their favor. it's bad, not that bad.

[GuyInFreezer]

Doesn't change that town is more likely to be killed than scum.

tbh I don't know why I even had to announce it in the first place. It's a really simple number magic.

[Hawk]

Skitter what about my play was scummy?? GiF confidentially stated that we shouldn't PL and gave a double mislynch as his reasoning. It's not shade, it's just pointing out Gifs logic should be that NM is a mislynch which not even scum would know.

Why is TD slot scum still?? Don't bring up anything about the hydra or Maths play versus dinos play cause that isn't talking about the "slot" -_-;;

Pedit: yes town is more likely to be killed than scum that's a fucking fact but nothing fucking d1 is fucking concrete and you saying a Policy Lynch is so much worse than some other lynch is just fucking stupid. Its a 1 in 3 chance we lynch scum today. Logic and reasoning should make it higher if we scum hunt but half the player list is inactive and lurking so unless you're seeing someone who's obvscum you're preferred lynch is no better than a policy lynch on NM.

A policy lynch on a player who probably won't get NK'd is a good lynch. He looks scummy hasn't done anything productive for the game and waiting to see if he fucking perks up is asking to shoot yourself in the foot later in lylo or mylo when you have to choose between NM and someone else.

[GuyInFreezer]

Actually I confidentally stated that NM is town.

[Hawk]

Skitter what about my play was scummy?? GiF confidentially stated that we shouldn't PL and gave a double mislynch as his reasoning. It's not shade, it's just pointing out Gifs logic would be that NM is a mislynch which not even scum would know.

Why is TD slot scum still?? Don't bring up anything about the hydra or town!Maths play versus scum!maths play cause that isn't talking about the "slot" -_-;;

Pedit: yes town is more likely to be killed than scum that's a fucking fact but nothing fucking d1 is fucking concrete and you saying a Policy Lynch is so much worse than some other lynch is just fucking stupid. Its a 1 in 3 chance we lynch scum today. Logic and reasoning should make it higher if we scum hunt but half the player list is inactive and lurking so unless you're seeing someone who's obvscum you're preferred lynch is no better than a policy lynch on NM.

A policy lynch on a player who probably won't get NK'd is a good lynch. He looks scummy hasn't done anything productive for the game and waiting to see if he fucking perks up is asking to shoot yourself in the foot later in lylo or mylo when you have to choose between NM and someone else.

Ewop. Sorry I'm getting annoyed and typing fast.

[Hawk]

Actually I confidentally stated that NM is town.

How the fuck do you know that??

[GuyInFreezer]

I'm just that confident.
And you know it's really my confidence because this is a multiball.

[Hawk]

I'm just that confident.
And you know it's really my confidence because this is a multiball.

No I don't. You could be gambiting as partners. Or if you are scum gambling he's not 2 in 11 that you know could be town which are pretty good odds. It being multiball doesn't change the fact that confidentially saying someone is town isn't logical.

[Not_Mafia]

You're trying to lynch town and I'm trying to lynch scum so who's more productive now

[Not_Mafia]

I'm just that confident.
And you know it's really my confidence because this is a multiball.

No I don't. You could be gambiting as partners. Or if you are scum gambling he's not 2 in 11 that you know could be town which are pretty good odds. It being multiball doesn't change the fact that confidentially saying someone is town isn't logical.

omg lynch this pls

[Hawk]

You're trying to lynch town and I'm trying to lynch scum so who's more productive now

I want to lynch Redflavor, Mumble and or you. So you're saying those 3 are in your townbloc?

[Not_Mafia]

lol

[Hawk]

I'm just that confident.
And you know it's really my confidence because this is a multiball.

No I don't. You could be gambiting as partners. Or if you are scum gambling he's not 2 in 11 that you know could be town which are pretty good odds. It being multiball doesn't change the fact that confidentially saying someone is town isn't logical.

omg lynch this pls

What about my logic is flawed explain NM?? I don't believe any of those things but it doesn't mean they're not possibilities. His logic is flawed. Town can use bad logic. Stop being terrible if you're town and step up.

[skitter30]

Skitter what about my play was scummy?? GiF confidentially stated that we shouldn't PL and gave a double mislynch as his reasoning. It's not shade, it's just pointing out Gifs logic should be that NM is a mislynch which not even scum would know.

No I don't. You could be gambiting as partners. Or if you are scum gambling he's not 2 in 11 that you know could be town which are pretty good odds. It being multiball doesn't change the fact that confidentially saying someone is town isn't logical.

Also yes that is worst case scenario. Who says the Policy Lynch hits town?? Are you that convinced lynching NM flips green? That's some scum partner talk there.

You agreed with his logic and unvoted because of it and proceeded to then pick it apart and explain why you think it's illogical. So I'm calling this shading because you're at once agreeing with his point but also attacking him over it.

And you also posit he might be *that* confident because they might be scumpartners. If you really think this, I'm not sure why you aren't like doing anything about it, like voting him.

Why is TD slot scum still?? Don't bring up anything about the hydra or Maths play versus dinos play cause that isn't talking about the "slot" -_-;;

I mean, just because the players changed it's still the same slot?

I don't really understand why you don't want me to bring up math's play / the hydra when that's the basis of my scumread.

[Hawk]

Because I didn't think it was alignment indicative. I'm not meaning to sound like I'm attacking him? I'm just paranoid I guess... I agree that we can probably do better than a policy lynch with 5 days left. I disagree with his logic that NM is town and that we shouldn't policy lynch him because of that "fact"/"confidence" he's spouting.

[Hawk]

Also it regarding the slot I was basically asking why you think the slot is scummy independent of TD since well you said the slot is still scum...

[Mikan Tsumiki]

H-hello!
My name is Mikan Tsumiki. I-I am the ultimate nurse!
My m-master told me to join this game because I had to be punished
Uuuuuu
I-I hate multiball

VOTE: Hawk
I-I'm sorry you're scum, please fry me on a gristle.

[GuyInFreezer]

You liar.
You replaced into this game on your own will.