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In post 273, profii wrote:Can you explain why a no vote or a self vote can be pro town? (Particularly the self vote, I can see that a no vote might be a cop out of town can’t find scum but usually flips and odd number player lists are more useful imo)

I never said it did. People do anti town things all the time. Go look at every game boon or radiant cowbells has ever played for examples of that.

But when you said voting no lynch was playing against his win condition you completely lost me.

I didn’t say you said that. But I’m asking you to provide reasons that those actions are pro town, irrespective of anything I said

In post 276, profii wrote:I didn’t say you said that. But I’m asking you to provide reasons that those actions are pro town, irrespective of anything I said

I can’t provide reasons they are protown. In this instance they aren’t.

That isn’t what we are discussing though so idk what the point of that was.

In post 197, Chickadee wrote:

In post 186, Gustavo wrote:So you admit I’ve contributed something. Why did you lie about me and say I haven’t contributed?

I’m not tunneling either. Please stop lying about me.

This reads as needlessly defensive.

I'd agree but this is Gus being Gus I think. He thinks strongly about his D1 beliefs afaik

In post 203, davesaz wrote: HitAlt seems townier than what I'm used to. So does HeWhoSwims.

Not sure if that's a compliment or an insult... '

In post 217, Gustavo wrote:

In post 216, Inferno390 wrote:You’re missing the point.
In mafia, what you do is form a case and then judge someone based on that case. In AbN, you assume someone’s alignment and then build a case around the assumption.

Ex.
“Player X has been doing this, so he’s scum.”
Vs
“Player X is scum!”
*Player X does something*
“See? What Player X sis is scummy! Die scum!”

Your progression is firmly of the latter.

Except that’s not what I did at all. Yet another lie from you.

Except you kinda did, you entered with a vote on profii and said you didn't like his posts... To add onto that I think that the things you consider scummy are not that scummy.

In post 232, Elbirn wrote:Post 81 though, this 1v1 paranoia is something he's brought up a few times, and I'm not sure it's something I'd expect scum to have on their mind. Like..If I'm playing scum and someone's drawing me into a conversation, my first instinct of things to post is not "You're scum trying to trap me/earn towncred". I might think town is trying to trap me, but I'm not going to accuse the other person of being scum. No? Yes?

Personally... No I don't think I would immediately call the other player scum (without scumreading them before of course), I'd rather engage in the 1v1 and hope it gets written off as TvT and/or the opponent is being scumread. But, there's always a playstyle element to this choice I think.

In post 278, HeWhoSwims wrote:I'd agree but this is Gus being Gus I think. He thinks strongly about his D1 beliefs afaik

But the issue here is informer said I provided no content. When I said I did he changed his story to not liking my content.

No content is different than not liking what I’ve provided.

This has nothing to do with my d1 beliefs. I wanted to just point out his contradiction (is that better than a lie?)

In post 278, HeWhoSwims wrote:Except you kinda did, you entered with a vote on profii and said you didn't like his posts... To add onto that I think that the things you consider scummy are not that scummy.

You and I were having a conversation. I wasn’t adding on anything

My bad I misread your last part.

It’s day 1, we have little information to go on. Also I’m sorry I not able to control what I find scummy and what I don’t. This is why I hate day 1. It’s no information day where we have the basically guess based on weak reasons.

For not profli is my guess. If that’s an issue for anyone I’m sorry but not sorry

In post 242, brassherald wrote: Use post tags, it's really not that hard.

In post 243, brassherald wrote: Am I even here? Is this a sixth sense scenario?

Tbh these posts alone are why I'm in favour of keeping you to day 3 at least

In post 256, Inferno390 wrote:I’m done with Gus at this point, he’s confscum at this point for me. Elbirn’s post on me feels very strong. As for Rask’s motivation, I honestly think it was just RVS and he was messing around. Also, @Elbrin I had nothing against your self vote. It’s the responses that came after it that felt off. (Oh, and that wall post is nothing. I’ve seen way worse.)

This is the equivalent to playing mafia irl and sitting down in a corner, arms crossed, not wanting to play 'cause the game isn't going your way... Our wooden overlord specifically asked for a chill game so the both of you keep it down.

@Gus - I of course agree with you that it's untrue that you haven't provided content. Sure profii can be a guess for Day 1, you're right, no information but at least the guesses are based on more than what you are presenting. Scum can be lynched d1, it's happened to me when I was scum and I recently lynched mafia in a game of my own.

Also mfw I'm in the top half of posters

I’m sorry if I’m not presenting enough information. There really isn’t much to say. Profli so far looks scummier than everyone else and I feel like I’ve said why I think that. Once more is posted, maybe I’ll have more thoughts. When I play on the phone I post as I see it. When I’m on a computer I can go back and read things I may have missed but I don’t think I’ve missed anything.

I don’t see why rask and myself have the most votes. I certainly haven’t done anything to indicate I’m scum (cause I’m not) and I feel like it’s more due to the fabricated argument inferno started and then tried to play the “poor me” card after people sided with him.

Magna hopping on the whole toxic thing is pretty shitty. I haven’t been toxic at all.

As said previously {inferno, gustavo, profii} likely contains 0 scum and scum have probably been watching town implode so far. Let's try to put some focus on the real scum please instead of this. Is anyone willing to defend flubber?

Gus I feel your playstyle will always attract votes

I agre Ausuka at least for now. Don't find any of them scummy.

I played with Havo+Chumba in the same game once. They're okay separately but together I wouldn't recommend... if you're town. I was scum that game and it certainly helped some bit.

I haven't seen enough Flubber to have a read there.
(Generally I haven't seen enough of most of the player list to have a read -- my style is to read far more than write if you don't already know that)

In post 287, HeWhoSwims wrote:Gus I feel your playstyle will always attract votes

Why though? I haven’t done anything wrong or scummy so cause I call somebody out and defend myself that warrants votes? That’s weak.

I’m still rusty obviously. If I can get advice to improve I’m all ears.

Gustavo if you are Town and don’t understand that 194 and 215 are very toxic posts and the reason people have called you that you need to step back and reevaluate.

If you are scum the feigned ignorance makes sense.

oops typo should be 214 not 215.

In post 291, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Gustavo if you are Town and don’t understand that 194 and 215 are very toxic posts and the reason people have called you that you need to step back and reevaluate.

If you are scum the feigned ignorance makes sense.

194 definitely isn’t. I could see why 214 could be interpreted that way but I didn’t name names.

If you are so concerned about toxic play? Why contribute to it yourself? why not hold yourself and informer accountable also?

In post 293, Gustavo wrote:

In post 291, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Gustavo if you are Town and don’t understand that 194 and 215 are very toxic posts and the reason people have called you that you need to step back and reevaluate.

If you are scum the feigned ignorance makes sense.

194 definitely isn’t. I could see why 214 could be interpreted that way but I didn’t name names.

If you are so concerned about toxic play? Why contribute to it yourself? why not hold yourself and informer accountable also?

Y’all need to lighten up. Get drunk or smoke some weed and not take everything so personal.

In post 244, MagnaofIllusion wrote:Why are all you peeps ignoring scumFlubber?

I mean voting Gus who has been a toxic jerk probably feels good but just because he is pompous and condescending doesn’t mean he is scum. Just that he’s a bad player in the wrong game.

Magna, those in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. You should drop the toxic talk given the fact you’ve got 2 example of toxicity in this post alone.

That actually makes you more toxic than me.

Pursuing it isn't the best approach either.

@MoI re 244 -- your Flubber case seems to rest on a single post, am I reading that right?

I will always defend myself. Don’t say anything negative about me and I won’t have to respond.

We could end this day with s profli lynch. His buddies will kill me and everyone is happy.

ausuka town!